Suicide bomber in Stockholm - 1 dead; the suicide bomber - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Chekko;26635265]I don't hate muslims, i hate their book. A big difference.[/QUOTE] And saying "I hate Islam" makes that perfectly clear...

[QUOTE=David29;26635017]I would consider London to be a bigger target than Stockholm, so I wouldn't worry. Fuck sake. I'm Christian, but even I realise that the average Muslim doesn't believe that blowing themselves up in public is the smartest way to further their beliefs. Learn to to differentiate between mainstream and extremist before hating on people in future.[/QUOTE] The other muslims won't do anything about it, by law, that makes them accomplices. I don't see why we'd in any way defend a group of people where the group itself refuses to fix it's own problems and instead just makes things worse for everyone else who actually tries to fix it.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26635458]The other muslims won't do anything about it, by law, that makes them accomplices. I don't see why we'd in any way defend a group of people where the group itself refuses to fix it's own problems and instead just makes things worse for everyone else who actually tries to fix it.[/QUOTE] That's a load of crap. How exactly do you propose they 'fix' their problems? They condemn the actions of extremists already - beyond that there is little they can do.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26635458]The other muslims won't do anything about it, by law, that makes them accomplices. I don't see why we'd in any way defend a group of people where the group itself refuses to fix it's own problems and instead just makes things worse for everyone else who actually tries to fix it.[/QUOTE] Nope, muslims don't have a collective responsibility to eliminate extremists from the group. In fact, it's IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate all extremists in a group without leadership. Islam is a flat religion, it doesn't have a leader, but merely a book, a book which can be interpreted as the reader wishes.

[QUOTE=David29;26635744]That's a load of crap. How exactly do you propose they 'fix' their problems? They condemn the actions of extremists already - beyond that there is little they can do.[/QUOTE] They can declare a real jihad and kill them. The purpose of a jihad was to protect their integrity, and if you ask me, that's just justice for you. Like the failsafe part of the 2nd amendment of the constitution of The United States of America.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26635891]They can declare a real jihad and kill them. The purpose of a jihad was to protect their integrity, and if you ask me, that's just justice for you. Like the failsafe part of the 2nd amendment of the constitution of The United States of America.[/QUOTE] Two points: 1. They can't just go off an kill people who they disagree with - that would be completely contradictory to the whole point. A bunch of Muslims going off to kill some other Muslims who kill people that have different views to themselves is a rather illogical and hypocritical approach. 2. By your logic, the world should invade Ireland. The reason being that Ireland could be grouped with the Nazis (both were/are part of the human race) and yet Ireland did not become involved in WWII. Thus, following your argument that one part of a group is just as liable to any illegal activities as another part of a group provided that the first group did not intervene, Ireland is just as bad as the Nazi's. Nothing against the Irish, by the way.

[QUOTE=JDK721;26634375]why are you being racist[/QUOTE] Because populist sentiment is a wonderful political vehicle, and because I never did like those dirty arab towelheads.

[QUOTE=David29;26636230]Two points: 1. They can't just go off an kill people who they disagree with - that would be completely contradictory to the whole point. A bunch of Muslims going off to kill some other Muslims who kill people that have different views to themselves is a rather illogical and hypocritical approach. [/QUOTE] Not really, letting people go corrupt and run amok amongst a people you're part of is far worse than keeping things in order. There has to be law in everything, and former civilized muslims laws dictates that these people are the proper kind of infidels. But no, they have people like you defending them whilst their darker side tries to take over the world. You know what? I'll be wealthy by the time when they invade, so I'll start abducting PC-liberals and then hunt them for game in the woods. And don't judge me, all rich people do it! And it won't be as bad when I do it, since filthy PC-liberal scum is only sub-human! :argh:

[QUOTE=Ohforf;26636609]I'm guessing people are going to get very hissy towards islam after this, which is not a good thing. They're not all suicide bombers, now are they?[/QUOTE] One bomber is one too many for the sake of some stupid religion.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;26634351]Not a freedom.[/QUOTE] As long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;26631045]As stated before, they don't give a fuck about politics. They want non-muslims to die, and they do it because they've got nothing to lose, especially if you believe in that "virgins in heaven"-nonsense.[/QUOTE] I think that's too direct. If i was one of the guys who is financing this stuff, xenophobia in the " enemy" country would be what i'd want. It creates more tension which leads to more supporters of my extremist group. That way you gain two things: the martyrs as a goal for the human tools you are using and even more supporters as a countermovement to the terrorist haters in the target country. Believe and faith never is and was the motivation of the people who really pull the wires behind this.

[QUOTE=Killuah;26637255]I think that's too direct. If i was one of the guys who is financing this stuff, xenophobia in the " enemy" country would be what i'd want. It creates more tension which leads to more supporters of my extremist group. That way you gain two things: the martyrs as a goal for the human tools you are using and even more supporters as a countermovement to the terrorist haters in the target country. Believe and faith never is and was the motivation of the people who really pull the wires behind this.[/QUOTE] No, of course not. I'm talking about the individual blowing up himself. But the people organising and financing this are probably pursuing a gain in power.

[QUOTE=JDK721;26634375]why are you being racist[/QUOTE] Because he is Gentlemanne

[img]http://politisktinkorrekt.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Spr%C3%A4ngd-till-d%C3%B6ds1.jpg[/img] dead suicide bomber is dead

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[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26637673][img_thumb]http://politisktinkorrekt.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Spr%C3%A4ngd-till-d%C3%B6ds1.jpg[/img_thumb] dead suicide bomber is dead[/QUOTE] How do you know? You're not a doctor! :argh:

The thing is. Only 1 out of 6 pipebombs were exploded. I wonder how much damage it would've been if the explosion were 6 times more dangerous. I hope something will come out of this. More police forces? Better security? I dont know. However, i bet our journalist without any view on reality at all will blame everything on someone else.

[QUOTE=JDK721;26634375]why are you being racist[/QUOTE] He has a problem with the way he thinks. He should probably be in some sort of clinic. [editline]12th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Chekko;26635265]I don't hate muslims, i hate their book. A big difference.[/QUOTE] So you mean people have no choice on how to interpret or follow their book, and that relgious extremism isn't just a symptom of poor living conditions? I've wonder how I've managed to escape a stoning for wearing clothing of mixed fibers so long! At least one of the Christians should have noticed! But enough of that, I have to go break my friend out of prison who's been sentenced to death for being raped!

[QUOTE=Vinze;26637766]How do you know? You're not a doctor! :argh:[/QUOTE] Blowing up kills people.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;26638369]Blowing up kills people.[/QUOTE] Fine - You got me on a mere technicality.

this happens in the us every other week we've had tons of failures recently, one in times square, one at some Christmas ceremony in Ohio.

[QUOTE=not_Morph53;26635018]And this why peace will never be achieved through mutual understanding.[/QUOTE] It's kind of hard to mutually understand someone when you're the only one trying to understand the person. These people don't really have access to information like you and I do. Hell, a disturbingly large amount of Afghanis, when interviewed, had no idea [I]why[/I] the United States was in Afghanistan in the first place (interview was in 2008/10)

"a man had blown himself to death"

[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;26630244]Wow, this is pretty damn weird for happening in Sweden. We're one of the most Arab-loving countries in the world. We take in more Arabs yearly than both the US and Canada put together, and we're a really small country compared to those two. Why the hell would they blow themselves up here, when it will only lead to greater debate about the mass-immigration, and possibly a lowered amount of Arabs coming in. Pretty stupid strategy.[/QUOTE] I do not think the Arabs love us so much when 90% of them get no jobs. That is why they want to stop the immigration. Because it is out of control through the roof high while still even swedish people have hard times getting jobs.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26635458]The other muslims won't do anything about it, by law, that makes them accomplices. I don't see why we'd in any way defend a group of people where the group itself refuses to fix it's own problems and instead just makes things worse for everyone else who actually tries to fix it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Vinze;26635891]They can declare a real jihad and kill them. The purpose of a jihad was to protect their integrity, and if you ask me, that's just justice for you. Like the failsafe part of the 2nd amendment of the constitution of The United States of America.[/QUOTE] They condemn them almost frequently and fatwas are issued accordingly. (“It is forbidden to kill non-Muslims e.g) [URL]http://articles.cnn.com/2010-08-11/world/anti.terror.camp_1_islamic-cleric-fatwa-anti-terror?_s=PM:WORLD[/URL] [URL]http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1969662,00.html[/URL] There’s not much more they CAN do. --- Oh, and they did take the violent (which I do not condone) approach against these extremists: (Wahhabi Mosque Destroyed In Lombok) [URL]http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/wahhabi-mosque-destroyed-in-lombok/406829[/URL] Wahhabism [B]is the extremist[/B] branch in Islam (Like the Westboro Church) so the Muslims in Indonesia took it upon themselves to destroy the extremist mosque, level the house of the Mosques’ guardian and attack the people within it. Again, I don’t support the aforementioned actions against the Wahhabists as that makes them just as bad as they are, but it is evidence that yes, Muslims do take it upon themselves to rid the extremists.

Wait... so if you don't take anyone out with you when you explode... does that make it JUST suicide?

"Sverigedemokraterna" is going to like this and use it as propaganda "OMG THOSE INBRED SANDNIGGERS ARE TRYING TO BLOW UP SWEDEN HERP DERP :saddowns:"

[QUOTE=Ond kaja;26633363]From the article: "In the film a man addresses to 'Sweden and the Swedish people'. He, among else, refers to the Swedish silence on artist Lars Vilks paintings of the muslim prophet Mohammed, the Swedish soldiers in Afghanistan, saying that 'now shall your children, daughters and sisters die as our brothers and sisters and children are dying.'"[/QUOTE] Haha.... Not this shit again Good thing there's no religion based on Garfield or we'd all be fucked

A++ religious fanatic would hire again.

"Herp derp if I blow myself up and kill infidels Allah will give me passage into paradise, and I will have it good forever and get 72 virgins and never face any consequences so why not do it herp derp?" That's why.