Suicide bomber in Stockholm - 1 dead; the suicide bomber

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26740682]
Go back and follow our quotes, then sit in the corner over there next to the fat guy and cry me the worlds biggest river.[/QUOTE]

no need to get your knickers in a twist dear

[Brage Nyman]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26740701]no need to get your knickers in a twist dear[/QUOTE]

Fine prove to me that finns are the biggest group immigrating to Sweden.

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Since they are nowhere near.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26740806]Fine prove to me that finns are the biggest group immigrating to Sweden.[/QUOTE]

well they are the biggest group of immigrants in sweden

[editline]16th December 2010[/editline]

i know you mean something else but what's your point

[Brage Nyman]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26740830]well they are the biggest group of immigrants in sweden

[editline]16th December 2010[/editline]

i know you mean something else but what's your point[/QUOTE]

That you derail stuff only since they don't go your way? ;)

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26740857]That you derail stuff only since they don't go your way? ;)[/QUOTE]
oh so you're quoting immigrations rates to prove this?

okay?

[Brage Nyman]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26740880]oh so you're quoting immigrations rates to prove this?

okay?[/QUOTE]

Yeap, hope you didn't get butt hurt only since i proved you wrong.

[evilking1]

Oh here we go again...

[Splendor]

Finns are very close to the Swedes, ethnic jokes not withstanding. Iraqis on the other hand is a different story.

[Cuel]

correct me if i'm wrong but brage is talking current immigration rate from a specific country while thisispain is talking about current census

[thisispain]

i'm still confused

how is there a crisis if they only make up 0.5% of the population

[Brage Nyman]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26746263]i'm still confused

how is there a crisis if they only make up 0.5% of the population[/QUOTE]

There is half a million Muslims in Sweden that's about 5% and the issues are obvious.

[Murkat]

[QUOTE=TheTalon;26642627]Haha.... Not this shit again

Good thing there's no religion based on Garfield or we'd all be fucked[/QUOTE]

DEATH TO THE LASAGNA INFIDELS!!

c

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26746557]There is half a million Muslims in Sweden that's about 5% and the issues are obvious.[/QUOTE]
like

[Chekko]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26747555]like[/QUOTE]

Read the thread title.

[Haxxer]

[QUOTE=Chekko;26750726]Read the thread title.[/QUOTE]

One out of 500'000?

[Splendor]

[QUOTE=Haxxer;26750880]One out of 500'000?[/QUOTE]

That's far too many. They don't really do anything but leech unemployment benefits and hit the ganja.

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[Brage Nyman]

Rape, group rape, theft, fraud, murder, teenage murder, kidnapping, pensioner crimes, blackmail.

Who might be overrepresented in these types crimes?

[QUOTE=Haxxer;26750880]One out of 500'000?[/QUOTE]

Only 2740 americans of 300000000 died in 9/11. Lets all just forget about it.

[koekje4life V2]

Honestly, nothing of value was lost in stockholm. The bomber had it coming.

[Haxxer]

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26752751]Only 2740 americans of 300000000 died in 9/11. Lets all just forget about it.[/QUOTE]

I fail to see how the deaths on 9/11 relates to a suicide bomber, really.

Regardless, I am not for, nor against immigration. Everything has a good and a bad side.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;26752751]Rape, group rape, theft, fraud, murder, teenage murder, kidnapping, pensioner crimes, blackmail.
[/QUOTE]

oh okay so it's because they are muslims
if there were no muslims none of these crimes would happen

right

[Splendor]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26761372]oh okay so it's because they are muslims
if there were no muslims none of these crimes would happen

right[/QUOTE]

There would be a significant reduction, as immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa are grossly overrepresented within these crimes.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Splendor;26762815]There would be a significant reduction, as immigrants from the Middle East and North Africa are grossly overrepresented within these crimes.[/QUOTE]

i said muslims

[Fhux]

This was just some 100 metres away from my dad's job, he saw the explosion.

[Brage Nyman]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26762834]i said muslims[/QUOTE]

I hope you know that Muslims comes mainly from the Middle East and North Africa.

[thisispain]

mainly but not all

do all muslims commit those crimes or not

[Brage Nyman]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26766036]mainly but not all

do all muslims commit those crimes or not[/QUOTE]

No they are overrepresented like stated a couple of times.

Most of the Muslims that is committing crime lives in a their own community with other Muslims and this happens inside the already existing Swedish community. In short integration has failed, there is harder to job, harder to get studies, harder to get money. Guess why they are so fucking pissed! Not to mention people like Lars Vilks and Swedish troops in Afghanistan just adding fuel to the fire.

Sweden dosen't work as the middle east, the insane immigration rates need to be halted until we know what the fuck to do with everyone we bring in. Look at immigration brought on by none Islam culture they usually work out fine. But Gypsies also tend to create their on communities.

[Splendor]

[QUOTE=thisispain;26766036]mainly but not all

do all muslims commit those crimes or not[/QUOTE]

Nice red herring. We're talking about non-European immigrants at large, Brage Nyman is only being politically correct by referring to religion instead of race (he still subscribes to socialist models of thinking, a lifetime of brainwashing will do that to you.)

[Doctor_Communis]

I guess you could say he was Allah-lone.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE=Splendor;26775558]Nice red herring. We're talking about non-European immigrants at large, Brage Nyman is only being politically correct by referring to religion instead of race (he still subscribes to socialist models of thinking, a lifetime of brainwashing will do that to you.)[/QUOTE]

oh okay

[sloppy_joes]

Punishing the many for the actions of the few is some ass-backwards political stance. I could make one of many strawman arguments here, but I will refrain.

What's the unemployment for second-generation muslims with one or both parents born in the middle-east?

I found [url=http://www.bbs.hik.se/forskning/rooth/andragen.pdf]this[/url] study which says:

[quote]
In Sweden some studies have been conducted. The first was made by Ekberg
(1997). He found that the unemployment rate for second-generation immigrants born in
Sweden before 1970 was nearly the same as among native Swedes of the same age.[/quote]

A lot of first generation immigrants have trouble finding employment, but second generation immigrants generally have much less trouble.
The issue of immigration employment is almost a non-issue simply because immigrants have employable children.
Saying that people from Iraq are lazy and hit the ganga is clearly a terrible fucking generalization.

According to a chart later in the study, women with both parents born outside of a european country have the highest unemployment rate - 20%.
Considering most of the immigration that comes from non-european countries come from the middle-east, it's safe to say that most of the women included in that number are born in a muslim country.
But 20%, while still being very high, is a massive drop from 73% figure you mentioned earlier.