• The Numbers Activision: Black Ops 2 sales is a cause of concern says finical analyst
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[t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Joystiq.svg/799px-Joystiq.svg.png[/t] [url]http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/29/analyst-black-ops-2-sales-a-cause-for-concern-downgrades-act/[/url] [QUOTE]Sales of Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 are on a trend to be down 15 percent from last year's launch of Modern Warfare 3, financial analyst Arvind Bhatia of Sterne Agee posits. Modern Warfare 3 sales were down 5 percent from the previous year's Black Ops, and if this scenario plays out again Bhatia calls it "a cause for concern" for Activision-Blizzard. Call of Duty as a franchise is responsible for up to 45 percent of Activision's earnings before interest and taxes, Bhatia says, justifying the concern clause. Average reviews of Black Ops 2 were lower than Modern Warfare 3's, and Black Ops 2 launched a week after Halo 4 but a week before Black Friday, meaning some customers may have waited to buy it, Bhatia says. Sterne Agee downgraded Activision's rating from "buy" to "neutral" and reduced 2013 estimates from $4.74 billion to $4.3 billion. All this is in spite of the fact that Black Ops 2 pulled in $500 million at retail on its first day, breaking records and surpassing Modern Warfare 3's $400 million, and is the UK's fourth largest launch ever.[/QUOTE]
What a tragedy.
Stop the presses! Activision is losing money!
Honestly I'd like it if it was a 2 year gap with call of duty's not just 1 every year, I reckon you could get some level of quality if treyarch or IW had more time. Like COD4 wouldn't of been made the way it was if treyarch/grey matter studios stepped in and did 2 games while IW was hard at work on IW 3.0
Over 10 million units shifted over all platforms since launch considered "Cause for concern" what. There are deserving games out there that barely reach a million sales
"Down %15 from the game that broke records for selling the most"
It's almost like even the hardcore CoD audience is finding the new releases to be stale.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38699849]Honestly I'd like it if it was a 2 year gap with call of duty's not just 1 every year, I reckon you could get some level of quality if treyarch or IW had more time. Like COD4 wouldn't of been made the way it was if treyarch/grey matter studios stepped in and did 2 games while IW was hard at work on IW 3.0[/QUOTE] Well, Black Ops 2 wasn't exactly a [i]bad[/i] game. Unlike previous calladootehs, the plot was vastly changeable based on your actions and I found certain points of the game to be really interesting and nerve-wracking, to say the least. But worth $60 every year? Nah, more like $20-30, considering the singleplayer is done in a few days and the multiplayer ain't all that great. [editline]f[/editline] Well it is a bad [i]game[/i] but it makes for a watchable interactive movie
[QUOTE=dogmachines;38699858]It's almost like even the hardcore CoD audience is finding the new releases to be stale.[/QUOTE] I'm honestly fed up with IW's shit, mw3 was just plain awful, I don't think I'll be buying from them in a while. [editline]4th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=fishyfish777;38699865]Well, Black Ops 2 wasn't exactly a [i]bad[/i] game. Unlike previous calladootehs, the plot was vastly changeable based on your actions and I found certain points of the game to be really interesting and nerve-wracking, to say the least. But worth $60 every year? Nah, more like $20-30, considering the singleplayer is done in a few days and the multiplayer ain't all that great.[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong I thought blops 2 was wonderful and all but could you imagine how much better it could of been with maybe another year added onto development? Not saying the game is really bad now but you know
shame even if you make $500 million on launch these games get lucky to make even 3% profit. AAA titles are like prestige items. they're big golden monuments that don't make any money but keep your company looking like you're ahead of the competition. it's the cheap shit that keeps companies going. hell the only reason ubisoft has survived this long is because their wii stuff costs nothing to make and sells by the bucket load every AAA sequel gets its budget pumped up while the profit goes down. once they even out it gets dropped
[QUOTE=Xieneus;38699845]Stop the presses! Activision is losing money![/QUOTE] If $4.3 billion is "losing money", then my wallet must be a black hole.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;38699910]If $4.3 billion is "losing money", then my wallet must be a black hole.[/QUOTE] seeing as it was just steam sales I couldn't imagine your wallet being anything but a black hole.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;38699865]Well, Black Ops 2 wasn't exactly a [i]bad[/i] game. Unlike previous calladootehs, the plot was vastly changeable based on your actions and I found certain points of the game to be really interesting and nerve-wracking, to say the least. But worth $60 every year? Nah, more like $20-30, considering the singleplayer is done in a few days and the multiplayer ain't all that great. [editline]f[/editline] Well it is a bad [i]game[/i] but it makes for a watchable interactive movie[/QUOTE] Huh, funny how every time they try to make the next shoot-n-scoot somewhat different, it gets lowered ratings.
Watch as they draw the wrong conclusions a la "BO2 changed too much lets get back to the Modern Warfare formula"
because gaining that much money, advertisement, and having famous actors in your game is so bad meanwhile game companies that actually used to be great, are dying
I guess people are starting to see sense.
So Activision's falling a bit. Blizzard's starting to struggle with WoW, and Diablo 3 got mixed feedback THQ's barely survived, but might get some positive attention from their Bundle (poor Relic) Squeenix also really needs to push out something good, which may or may not affect Eidos' Thief 4 EA's stocks weren't doing too well last time I checked either. How's Ubi doing?
Makes $500 million on release day, 100 million more than the previous release, and is losing money? Fucking what? If you indeed are losing money, maybe its because people didn't want to buy a cod game after last year's trainwreck of a game, despite this year's cod actually being nice. [editline]4th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;38699987]Watch as they draw the wrong conclusions a la "BO2 changed too much lets get back to the Modern Warfare formula"[/QUOTE] Good god, not that... Hell, go back to WW2, just please, don't fucking run down the MW series even more.
That's a shame, unlike MW3, Black Ops 2 is actually pretty good.
As much as I want to believe it's because the masses are finding modern warfare games stale I'm certain the company is gonna blame this on the baby steps away from the genre they took in the new game
[QUOTE=latin_geek;38700070]As much as I want to believe it's because the masses are finding modern warfare games stale I'm certain the company is gonna blame this on the baby steps away from the genre they took in the new game[/QUOTE] True, next year we're going to have a shot-for-shot remake of MW2.
All the 12 year olds from MW2 are starting to grow up and taste the yearly shits they have been eating Activision is hardly losing any money at all, THQ are the ones that need some money
Black Ops 2 was the best since Modern Warfare. Modern Warfare 3 was godawful and undeserving of its sales.
The game industry needs a new genre of video games to overthrow the dominant modern military FPS games and also perhaps the people are waiting for Christmas to buy the games?
who cares
[QUOTE=BCell;38700392]The game industry needs a new genre of video games to overthrow the dominant modern military FPS games and also perhaps the people are waiting for Christmas to buy the games?[/QUOTE] victoria 2 and other grand strategy will overthrow [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkqYgOKkWZxVNKSMQDH4FwJVQltIkBemM18EUEs7K91kJvROPi4w[/IMG] ONTO GLORY
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;38700134]True, next year we're going to have a shot-for-shot remake of MW2.[/QUOTE] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.5: HD Remaster
[QUOTE=Jacam12SUX;38700403]who cares[/QUOTE] I think this is the first time a CoD hasn't outsold the previous ones at launch in a while. Could be wrong, though.
[QUOTE=dass;38700051]Makes $500 million on release day, 100 million more than the previous release, and is losing money? Fucking what? If you indeed are losing money, maybe its because people didn't want to buy a cod game after last year's trainwreck of a game, despite this year's cod actually being nice. [editline]4th December 2012[/editline] Good god, not that... Hell, go back to WW2, just please, don't fucking run down the MW series even more.[/QUOTE] WW2 games were done to death a few years ago and people are already sick of modern games.
[QUOTE=BCell;38700392]The game industry needs a new genre of video games to overthrow the dominant modern military FPS games and also perhaps the people are waiting for Christmas to buy the games?[/QUOTE] MOBAs are becoming a thing with titles like Awesomenauts or Super Monday Night Combat steering it away from the original "DOTA clone" formula while establishing what core elements still make it a MOBA. Should it become a genre indeed, we might just get more strategy titles. X-COM didn't do too shabby either, but I think MOBAs have the "light strategy" formula necessary for broad appeal, and combine it with the really competitive multiplayer that fuels the screaming and crying XBOXes run on. Seems like it has a chance IMO. That said, FPS and TPS will probably still stay mainstream for a long time, even with the speed of the net these things take quite a while to change.
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