• Science: 1 religious fundamentalists: 0; tax payer funded stem cell research ban removed
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You can get stem cells from amniotic fluid anyway so the whole killing embryos thing is moot.
Stem cell research was never banned. It's just that embryonic stem cell research was not federally funded because people were worried that it might set a precedent about human life (I don't really understand how, but that's their reasoning) Kinda a big difference but I guess it's easier to shout and scream about it if it sounds more polarized
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29510796]Embryos are babies or something I think someone called stem cell research "a holocaust" once[/QUOTE] If you think embryo's are humans then yeah, calling it a holocaust does make sense But I don't think they're humans so it doesn't make sense
[QUOTE=The golden;29514022]Humans are a species. A unborn human (even if it's just a diploid cell) has the same basic DNA as you do. So if that unborn human is not "Human" than neither are you. I'm not anti-stem cell, but I'm just saying you need to fix your terms.[/QUOTE] or that unborn human is just a mass of cells with instructions that can make it into a human
[QUOTE=The golden;29514022]Humans are a species. A unborn human (even if it's just a diploid cell) has the same basic DNA as you do. So if that unborn human is not "Human" than neither are you. I'm not anti-stem cell, but I'm just saying you need to fix your terms.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.trainingreference.co.uk/free_pictures/gallery_3/acorn.JPG[/img] this is not a tree
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;29514401]or that unborn human is just a mass of cells with instructions that can make it into a human[/QUOTE] He's right bro, embryos are human They're not a person, but they're human
[QUOTE=The golden;29514022]Humans are a species. A unborn human (even if it's just a diploid cell) has the same basic DNA as you do. So if that unborn human is not "Human" than neither are you. I'm not anti-stem cell, but I'm just saying you need to fix your terms.[/QUOTE] They may be human, but they are not people; they are not conscious, nor have they developed enough to survive independently of the womb.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;29511109]THANK YOU GOD! We have proof god exists now.[/QUOTE] What the fuck? no.
Dammit Zeke you ninja. [editline] SD[/editline] MEIN AUTOMERGE
[QUOTE=Judas;29514448][img_thumb]http://www.trainingreference.co.uk/free_pictures/gallery_3/acorn.JPG[/img_thumb] this is not a tree[/QUOTE] It isn't a tree, tree is like the equivalent term of person Your post should say "this is not an oak"
I've gotta ask; why are fundamentalists so riled up over this? You can get stem cells from more than just an embryo.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29514486]It isn't a tree, tree is like the equivalent term of person Your post should say "this is not an oak"[/QUOTE] it's not an oak
Baby steps.
finally
Not all Christians are against Stem cell research, I don't mind it.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29514452]He's right bro, embryos are human They're not a person, but they're human[/QUOTE] Well alright then
[QUOTE=JohnEdwards;29514676]Not all Christians are against Stem cell research, I don't mind it.[/QUOTE] Indeed not all are against it. I have yet to make up my mind on the whole matter however. But I do think its going to make people mad who don't support stuff like this at all. Basically they pay for this to happen. I understand that they disagree with it and it would feel horrible to know some of my money is going to something I am totally against. I can relate to them so I wont bash them. But then again you can't really exempt yourself from paying taxes no matter what they go to.
[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;29509644]how fuckin' dare YOU not pay ur taxes. it boils my pure amurrican blood to see u liberal fuckheads not pay ur taxes. Ur all COMMUNIST scum for all i care cuz you only care bout' what science does and not about the fact that we are ran by a BLACK A-RAB MAN who has let his A-RAB people into our beautiful cuntry. this whole thang is just another way for the liberals to stop real prograss and to stop focusin' on the real issue at hand here. we dont need some fancy new medicul thing we need to make sure our armeh an' naveh are still the best they is and to further our war against the IS-LAM-ESTS that are threatenin' our CHRISCHEEN WAYS. ~GOD BLESS AMERICA~ Jim Bob[/QUOTE] Because if there's one thing conservatives love, it's paying taxes.
I don't get this.. the article didn't really say anything about debating with religion on the issue and proving them wrong or whatever competition OP thinks the two has together when no one would even oppose scientific study.
[QUOTE=nikomo;29514642]Baby steps.[/QUOTE] Well, those embryos probably won't grow up to take those baby steps... On the infinitely brighter side, more people will be able to live long enough to cause and hear said babies and their penchant for stepping on things.
[QUOTE=Judas;29514448][img_thumb]http://www.trainingreference.co.uk/free_pictures/gallery_3/acorn.JPG[/img_thumb] this is not a tree[/QUOTE] I shall call him.. Mini-Tree.
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