Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort Charged with "Conspiracy Against United States" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52840519]Is youtube pushing something or is this coincidence [img]https://i.gyazo.com/df05df9850074b94bdc569a3f8913f68.png[/img][/QUOTE] What "topic" does it come from, popular or something along those lines?

If there's evidence that Democrats are involved, pursue that too. I mean, one of the companies implicated in Manafort's money laundering seems to be the Podesta Group, which forced the resignation of their namesake. Follow the trail wherever it leads. The stupidity of Trump's comments, as if it even needs to be pointed out, is that he is demanding that Mueller look at "THE DEMS," [B]instead[/B] of his administration. Fuck that. Mueller, you go wherever this investigation takes you. Anybody and everybody who was implicated in this betrayal needs to face justice. This isn't about political parties, it's about the integrity of our election, the security of our nation, and even our very sovereignty. Nothing and nobody can be allowed to threaten that.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;52840519]Is youtube pushing something or is this coincidence [img]https://i.gyazo.com/df05df9850074b94bdc569a3f8913f68.png[/img][/QUOTE] YouTube is owned by Google, right? Because yesterday, despite not using the Google news app at all or having my email tied to anything political on the internet, I got this kind of notification for the first time since I bought this phone. [t]https://puu.sh/ybwWY/80267cfffe.png[/t] WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?? :mystery:

[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52840582]YouTube is owned by Google, right? Because yesterday, despite not using the Google news app at all or having my email tied to anything political on the internet, I got this kind of notification for the first time since I bought this phone. [t]https://puu.sh/ybwWY/80267cfffe.png[/t] WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?? :mystery:[/QUOTE] Are you using Google Now? If its enabled it may be tracking your browsing history to try and suggest cards that you may find interesting. Like when a favorite band releases a new album, or when a news story breaks about something you often read about.

you know, they never proved unconcious memory repression was a real thing outside novels but Trump might as well be the casefile for that, "I don't know who they were, they didn't have anything to do with my campaign."

[QUOTE=Tagger;52840543]What "topic" does it come from, popular or something along those lines?[/QUOTE] Just "Breaking news", I don't watch any news on Youtube and certainly not FOX but this is suddenly at the top of my homepage every time I refresh.

[media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925363340553211909[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925364408364171265[/media] Official Republican Strategum: Deny and Deflect. Things you're going to hear a lot about this week: 1) Uranium One Deal 2) Benghazi 3) Clinton Emails 4) Podesta Group There will also be concerted efforts from Republican propaganda outlets like Fox News to delegitimize Meuller personally, and to attack the integrity of the investigation itself. Don't kid yourself: yesterday was an eviscerating blow to Trump's corrupt administration, and only the first of many. As Mueller cuts closer and closer to Trump himself, expect retaliation and hysteria from the Republican machine. Also expect to see waves of fake news on social media as Russian botnets flood the net with noise to confuse and mislead people.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;52840592]Are you using Google Now? If its enabled it may be tracking your browsing history to try and suggest cards that you may find interesting. Like when a favorite band releases a new album, or when a news story breaks about something you often read about.[/QUOTE] Nope, don't have it and I disable most trackings anyway. Also as I said before, this was first time I was notified about anything "I might be interested in" this way.

Serious question: If this gets deeper and deeper and Trump actually faces consequences, what are the chances of seeing violence in the streets? Some of Trump's supporters seem absolutely unhinged and completely disconnected from reality, and a lot of them like to carry guns to threaten liberal protesters and a few of them like driving their cars into crowds.

No matter how this all turns out, I think mass protests, and protests turned to riots, are quite likely.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52840631]Serious question: If this gets deeper and deeper and Trump actually faces consequences, what are the chances of seeing violence in the streets? Some of Trump's supporters seem absolutely unhinged and completely disconnected from reality, and a lot of them like to carry guns to threaten liberal protesters and a few of them like driving their cars into crowds.[/QUOTE] We might see some small scale violent acts from the side of pure zealots like the guy who walked into a restaurant with a rifle because of pizzagate. But I doubt large majority will do anything besides screeching about Fake News and censorship or whatever. Most of these nutcased who carry guns around do so only to intimidate. [editline]31st October 2017[/editline] Well, I hope so at least

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52840542]So, Trump keeps saying "Check the Dems!" He says this as if he knows that the Democrats are doing insanely illegal things, as bad as or worse than what his campaign is under investigation for. But the FBI isn't doing anything when he tells them to check the Democrats. This must mean that Donald Trump knows something that the intelligence branches of our government don't. He must know something extremely concrete and important for national security and the integrity of our very government. Does this mean that Donald Trump is withholding evidence about treasonous crimes that Democrats have committed? Isn't that illegal? Trump, why are you withholding evidence?! (Or, he's fucking lying and desperate. Occam's Razor and all that.)[/QUOTE] Nonsense. It [I]obviously[/I] means that George Soros (Obama's cousin and the world's richest man) is bribing the entire FBI, enough to make them ignore the Swamp Thing Dems, go after Innocent Trump, and not arrest him for bribery. He also blackmailed Donald Jr into posting that fake (FAKE NEWS) tweet of admitting he loved getting damaging information on Clinton from the Russians (our greatest allies against the USSR in the Cold War).

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52840631]Serious question: If this gets deeper and deeper and Trump actually faces consequences, what are the chances of seeing violence in the streets? Some of Trump's supporters seem absolutely unhinged and completely disconnected from reality, and a lot of them like to carry guns to threaten liberal protesters and a few of them like driving their cars into crowds.[/QUOTE] never forget that when they actually acted on their ideals in Charlottesville, the first thing they did was have a nervous breakdown about getting doxxed or upload videos of them literally blubbering and pleading to not be arrested. these people are infinitely more scared of responsibility than they are of "globalism".

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPBx3e4ouPs[/media] This song is damn near reality now.

Carter Page admits to receiving emails from Papadopoulis relating to correspondence with Russian agents on national television. lmao. [media]https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/925160655073824770[/media] "[Russia] may have come up from time to time. Again, there's nothing... Nothing major... You know?" Whoops. Only a matter of time until he's indicted, too.

If ~the dems~ really were as corrupt as Trump and friends I'd like to see them go down for it. But let's be honest it's just trump desperately trying to deflect the oncoming shit storm with some of the usual bollocks.

The most powerful man on the planet is reduced to pleading for support on a short hand public message site. Jesus Christ, I could do a better job at this corruption shit and I'm not even eligible to be POTUS.

I hope Mattis manages to survive this

[QUOTE=Mallow234;52840839]I hope Mattis manages to survive this[/QUOTE] Mattis is about to be the one leading Trump out in cuffs.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;52840631]Serious question: If this gets deeper and deeper and Trump actually faces consequences, what are the chances of seeing violence in the streets? Some of Trump's supporters seem absolutely unhinged and completely disconnected from reality, and a lot of them like to carry guns to threaten liberal protesters and a few of them like driving their cars into crowds.[/QUOTE] You better be ready for violence either way. Let's not forget that not only did Charlottsville happen, but Steve Scalise was shot on a baseball field because of his politics as well. Violence is the one true universal language.

[QUOTE=Mallow234;52840839]I hope Mattis manages to survive this[/QUOTE]Would be fucking hilarious if he and McMaster were the only ones left standing from Trump's government.

[QUOTE=The Rifleman;52840847]Mattis is about to be the one leading Trump out in cuffs.[/QUOTE] He is literally the one good thing about the whole administration, and thats only because I got dat mad dog hype

BDA, please help me out here. [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52840365]Donald Trump learned of the existence of a Kremlin agent, George Papadopoulis, on his National Security team. This agent told Donald Trump, in person, face to face, that he was in contact with Russian officials who had "thousands of hacked emails" damning Hillary Clinton. Moments after learning this, two incredibly important things happened:[/QUOTE] Why are you saying that Papadopoulos was a "Kremlin agent?" Have you seen something claiming that he was being paid by Russia? [QUOTE]1) Donald Trump [B]promoted[/B] George Papadopoulis to a key position as an emissary on Russian/Ukrainian foreign policy. Papadopoulis acted in an official capacity, with [I]direct[/I] access to Trump's top aides and campaign officials. This [B]shatters[/B] the statements of Donald Trump, and everybody in his inner circle, who have said that they were aware of [I]no contact or collusion with Russian agents,[/I] and completely breaks their weak defense that Papadopoulis was a low level "nobody" intern. Despite his lack of experience, he was promoted to a key advisory position, and it occurred on the heels of personally bringing Trump access to a direct line to the Kremlin. 2) Donald Trump immediately pushed for a complete reversal of GOP policy regarding Ukraine and Russia. This came as a major shock, not only for how sudden it was, but for the sheer level of insistence from Trump's people that the GOP adopt a pro-Russia stance. With the new timeline introduced by Papadopoulis we know why: it occurred within days of Trump learning that Papadopoulis was a Russian agent with access to "thousands of hacked emails." You know what happened within days of this policy reversal? Wikileaks began publishing thousands of hacked emails. This establishes a Quid Pro Quo arrangement between Donald Trump's campaign and the Kremlin. Trump adopted a pro-Russian stance, and Russia turned over damning emails to Wikileaks.[/QUOTE] Can you clarify this timeline for me? According to the Papadopoulos statement, here's the order of events: March 6th - Papadopoulos was offered a position as a foreign policy advisor for the Trump campaign. At this time, he was told that the principal foreign policy focus was "an improved U.S. relationship with Russia." March 14th & 24th - Papa meets the "professor," who has Russian government connections, and the "female Russian national," who Papa thinks is Putin's niece (he's wrong about that). Following these meetings, Papa tells the campaign about these contacts and starts to set up a meeting between the Trump campaign and the "Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump." The campaign supervisor responded by saying, "Great work." March 31st - Papa has the famed meeting with Trump and other foreign policy advisors. He told the group that he had connections that could help arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin. March 31st to April 17th - Papa continues to try and set up a meeting through his contacts. April 18th - Papa is introduced to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs ("MFA") by the "professor." They continue to try and set up a meeting. They continue talking about this until April 25th. April 26th - Papa met the "professor" in London and was told about the Clinton "dirt," in the form of "thousands of emails." April 27th to June 1st - Papa continues to badger the campaign about meeting. He tells the Campaign Supervisor things like that he "has been receiving a lot of calls over the last month about Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right," and "Russia has been eager to meet Mr. Trump for quite sometime and have been reaching out to me to discuss." Mid June to Mid August - Papa starts trying to set up an "off the record" meeting between a Trump representative and members of Putin's office. June 19th - Papa mentions that he, or someone else, could go off the record to meet with the Russians. After "several more weeks," on August 15th, the Campaign Supervisor encouraged Papa to do the meeting, but it never actually took place. July 22nd - WikiLeaks published stolen DNC emails. October - WikiLeaks published stolen Podesta emails. When during this timeline was Papa "promoted" from foreign policy advisor to "emissary on Russia/Ukraine foreign policy?" And when did Trump totally change his view on Russia? It seems like Papa found out about the stolen emails months before any WikiLeaks releases.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52840621][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925363340553211909[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925364408364171265[/media] Official Republican Strategum: Deny and Deflect. Things you're going to hear a lot about this week: 1) Uranium One Deal 2) Benghazi 3) Clinton Emails 4) Podesta Group There will also be concerted efforts from Republican propaganda outlets like Fox News to delegitimize Meuller personally, and to attack the integrity of the investigation itself. Don't kid yourself: yesterday was an eviscerating blow to Trump's corrupt administration, and only the first of many. As Mueller cuts closer and closer to Trump himself, expect retaliation and hysteria from the Republican machine. Also expect to see waves of fake news on social media as Russian botnets flood the net with noise to confuse and mislead people.[/QUOTE] fox, washington journal, new york journal, and any other rupert murdoc owned outlet, they're all coincidentially airing the same WH talking points

[media]https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/925189689811841025[/media] Now we get to see Congress' real integrity. They said they'd protect Mueller but declined to lock in a bill enshrining it. Now they have to protect Mueller against Trump and Bannon. [QUOTE=Grenadiac;52840519]Is youtube pushing something or is this coincidence [img]https://i.gyazo.com/df05df9850074b94bdc569a3f8913f68.png[/img][/QUOTE] I like how Fox [I]Business[/I] is diving tits-deep into politics. Screw the mission statement for the channel, we've gotta get damage control going full blast on all fronts. They scared.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52840945][media]https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/925189689811841025[/media][/QUOTE] DO IT. One more count of obstruction of justice to go on your rap sheet.

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;52840414]"Check the DEMS!" just screams of desperation. Look away from us, go over there![/QUOTE] Shortly after Trump won the election he downplayed the Crooked Hillary thing, saying "That plays great before the election - now we don't care, right?" It's funny that he suddenly cares again, he couldn't be making it more stupidly obvious that it's all a ploy.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52841043]Do you have a clip of that, before anyone here could possibly deny that he said that?[/QUOTE] I remember something like that. He downplayed it as soon as he won.

[quote]Carter Page concedes he was looped into “a few” emails linked to Russia’s election meddling plot but denied that he was the “low level” campaign staffer sent to Russia as an emissary.[/quote] [I]Someone[/I] was sent to Russia as an emissary of the Trump Campaign - despite their claims otherwise as those don't smack of the truth. Could it be, you know, the man who stated 'pick me, pick me!' It wasn't Page, or so he [I]claims[/I] as he states he went to Russia the following month as a 'private citizen' to speak at Moscow Universities which would be humorous considering that Page was initially contacted by a man he called 'the Professor'. (And then he left the campaign afterwards under calls that he'd met an oil mogul close to Putin but that's surely not related either) Thing is: Whether he was aware of it or not, he was acting as an agent of the Kremlin. He knew exactly what would go on in that meeting, Papadopolous, and he continued to eagerly set it up anyway. We know that he brought it up with campaign staff and was 'shot down' according to sources present in the meeting which, according to the people who were present in the meeting, never happened in the first place. So you see it's almost irrelevant. We've established the motive, the means, and the opportunity on not just one but [I]three[/I] separate occasions - [I]all[/I] of which being intimately tied to the campaign. And on the second and third attempts not only were those opportunities 'pre-meditated' but the parties involved in attempting to gain access to those e-mails knew exactly where the information was coming from and how it was obtained (illegally). Just because we haven't figured out [B]who[/B] is lying here (presumably not Papadopolous) doesn't mean the attempts weren't made and that, after those attempts were made, the information began to be released. So, that stated! [quote]And when did Trump totally change his view on Russia?[/quote] Here's a fast timeline for you. Key figures (note: not the only figures) sympathetic to Russia in the campaign: Carter Page(who exited the campaign after going to speak in Russia for allegedly 'innocent' reasons), Paul Manafort (operating as a foreign agent), Kissinger (which Trump claims as a long time friend - well before his Campaign began. The same Kissinger who is a close confidant to Putin). (Also, a bias-meter for easier reading, in a three-point scale of how much his opinion has shifted and in which direction since his last statement. Left being harder, right being softer. Times where the bias can't be directly measured are kept at '===') [===]2013 - Trump admits he 'has a relationship with Putin', that he's done an amazing job, is at the forefront of world leadership, etc. [<<<]Trump, March 2014 - Russia annexes Crimea. 'The land grab shouldn't have happened. There should be sanctions.' [<<=]May 2015 - Promises if elected would 'warn Putin not to continue, otherwise he would have to take military action’. States 'If it were me, I would call him and say don’t do it. Just stop it'. States that if it was to become necessary he would not hesitate to shoot down Russian planes. [===]June 2015 - Trump announces his campaign to be elected as the POTUS. [==>]July 2015 - The 'Ukraine crisis' is 'more of a European problem'. US should only step in if European countries call us to help. However 'Putin just isn't going to take Ukraine, he isn't.' [==>]October 2015 - Trump pursues the construction of Trump Tower Russia. [==>]December 2015 - 'I have always felt that Russia and the United States should be able to work well with each other towards defeating terrorism and restoring world peace, not to mention trade and all of the other benefits derived from mutual respect.' [===]March 2016 - Manafort joins the campaign. Page joins the campaign. [===]May 2016 - Kissinger states to Trump, after Trump continuously states Kissinger approved of Trump's policies: "On foreign policy, you identify many key problems. I do not generally agree with the solutions. One-shot outcomes are probably not possible." [>>>]August 2016 - Trump says he'll 'look at' whether sanctions are necessary against Russia for the annexation of Crimea. [==>]September 2016 - Page visits Russia. Allegedly speaks to oil magnate with close ties to Putin. Shortly thereafter is disowned by campaign. [===]January 2017 - Flynn appointed to campaign. [<<=]February 2017 - Flynn removed from the campaign after it was found that he'd discussed what policy the US should have with the Russian ambassador. 'Crimea was TAKEN by Russia. Previous administration was [B]too soft.[/B]' Trump tells Russia to return Crimea, Russia refuses. [=>>]May 2017 - Kissinger enters into an advisorial role with Trump, brought to the white house and Trump proudly announces him to the press corp. [>>>]October 2017 - Trump refuses to sanction Russia for hacking our elections, never mind even caring about Crimea anymore. He was shakey - but he's made up his mind now. What do you think changed his mind? I'm thinking it was his advisors, given that he kept getting Russians or people with agendas aligned with Russia and Ukraine and even a Lobbyist for RussianUkraine in his cabinet.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;52841043]Do you have a clip of that, before anyone here could possibly deny that he said that?[/QUOTE] [media]https://youtu.be/Ix49LjgaTaI?t=15[/media]