Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort Charged with "Conspiracy Against United States" - Polidicks

In total, we're looking at: Up to 5 years for Conspiracy Up to 20 years for money laundering Up to 5 years for Failure to File Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts Up to 5 years for Unregistered Agent of a Foreign Principal Up to 5 years for False and Misleading FARA Statements Up to 5 years for False Statements So Manafort could face up to [I]25[/I] years in prison. [editline].[/editline] Not 45. Forgot concurrent sentences.

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;52837051]So Manafort could face up to 45 years in prison.[/QUOTE] Or, put another way, if he's not allowed parole or reduction of sentence: Life. Meanwhile, his economic assets would be frozen - leaving his family in the wind. For life. Those are each, individually, powerful tools in the right hands and Mueller's very comfortable with them.

If that's not the greatest argument against softening NATO -Russia relations, then I don't know what is.

[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;52837021]So if Donald Trump and his team get kicked out of power, who the hell runs the country? Like according to US law?[/QUOTE] Paul Ryan, most likely

[QUOTE=Judas;52837074]Paul Ryan, most likely[/QUOTE] This Paul Ryan? [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.88fefdc52440[/url] [quote]A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin. “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia. House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.[/quote] [quote]Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.” The remarks remained secret for nearly a year.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Judas;52837074]Paul Ryan, most likely[/QUOTE] Most to least likely would be Hatch, Mnuchin or Mattis.

Nothing fishy going on here. Nope, no sirree. [media]https://twitter.com/michaelrwarren/status/925021400355794949[/media]

[QUOTE=Eva-1337;52836768]At what point is the legitimacy of the presidency called into question? I mean legally, cause I pretty much know it's not, in my own opinion. The man who ran Donald Trump's campaign is a foreign agent, for god's sake. How can you defend that?[/QUOTE] The only way you get a legitimacy claim is with actual election problems (like problems with ballots or counting). Other than that, it's legitimate and you have to follow the chain of command, or succession or whatever it's called.

[media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925028960550965248[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925037342620045312[/media]

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52837215][media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925028960550965248[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925037342620045312[/media][/QUOTE] This is informative and all, but when you have to use 120 separate tweets to explain something it seems like it'd be more efficient to just write an article.

[QUOTE=Kirbunny431;52837238]This is informative and all, but when you have to use 120 separate tweets to explain something it seems like it'd be more efficient to just write an article.[/QUOTE] you're being too rational we aren't that rational, these small snippets are easier to digest, easier to share and easier to reference. If he made 1 tweet linked to an article not many people would read it, he makes 120 tweets each with a snippet of important info each has a choose chance of catching ones eye, enticing them in to read the rest and they're easier to share. Eg if i rt one of his things people are more likely to read it than me rt a link to an article which nobody would read.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52837253]you're being too rational we aren't that rational, these small snippets are easier to digest, easier to share and easier to reference. If he made 1 tweet linked to an article not many people would read it, he makes 120 tweets each with a snippet of important info each has a choose chance of catching ones eye, enticing them in to read the rest and they're easier to share. Eg if i rt one of his things people are more likely to read it than me rt a link to an article which nobody would read.[/QUOTE] That is just sad. What has the human race become?

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52837261]That is just sad. What has the human race become?[/QUOTE] Humanity is the same as it's always been, that's why we are here now.

[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;52837021]So if Donald Trump and his team get kicked out of power, who the hell runs the country? Like according to US law?[/QUOTE] Depends how many people get taken down. There's a whole list somewhere that accounts for like 30+ people dying or being fired/whatever.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52837261]That is just sad. What has the human race become?[/QUOTE] We elected Trump, tells you all you need to know. Ill have my faith restored when he's in jail

I'm waiting for the inevitable pardon shitstorm when Trump tries to pardon him.

[QUOTE=Tuskin;52837261]That is just sad. What has the human race become?[/QUOTE] We've always been like this tho

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;52837051]In total, we're looking at: Up to 5 years for Conspiracy Up to 20 years for money laundering Up to 5 years for Failure to File Reports of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts Up to 5 years for Unregistered Agent of a Foreign Principal Up to 5 years for False and Misleading FARA Statements Up to 5 years for False Statements So Manafort could face up to [I]25[/I] years in prison. [editline].[/editline] Not 45. Forgot concurrent sentences.[/QUOTE] How exactly is conspiracy against the United States a 5 year sentence? That sounds like something people get executed for tbh

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52837302]I'm waiting for the inevitable pardon shitstorm when Trump tries to pardon him.[/QUOTE] I can't wait for when/if he does. It'll probably be on grounds that it's fake news concocted by Hillary and how it's all a witchhunt.

the beginning of the end

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52837215][media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925028960550965248[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925037342620045312[/media][/QUOTE] To read this in an easier format, here's the thread: [url]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/924988111880417280[/url] You can simply read from top to bottom. Keep clicking "More Replies." As a brief summary: holy shit, Trump's [B][U]fucked.[/U][/B]

Obviously the work for this was done [I]before[/I] the indictments [media]https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/925045694381133824[/media]

As much as I'd love to see Trump locked up and the key thrown away I'd rather wait and see what happens before I get too excited.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52837353]How exactly is conspiracy against the United States a 5 year sentence? That sounds like something people get executed for tbh[/QUOTE] Because its not Conspiracy as in Treason, its Conspiracy to defraud the Treasury by not paying taxes on his offshore stashes(according to the document)

[t]https://i.imgur.com/4ZQIHDp.jpg[/t] I'm going for the diagonal.

Just reupping my offer with you, nesto. Will you toxx to not dispute the results of the Mueller investigation?

With this tweet being made in the comment thread [B]before[/B] the Papadopolous story, is it possible that the new revelations from Papadopolous pleading guilty/sharing information/etc could expedite the process/timeframe of when the investigation could come to an end and Trump could reasonably be impeached? [media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925002849548980225[/media] [General timeline for reference from back in August; Manafort indictment was typical/expected procedure but the Papadopolous story seems to be a wild card, hence why I ask] [media]https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/893263007404261377[/media]

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52837353]How exactly is conspiracy against the United States a 5 year sentence? That sounds like something people get executed for tbh[/QUOTE] Because the charge is not as exciting as it sounds. It's not akin to treason.

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;52837353]How exactly is conspiracy against the United States a 5 year sentence? That sounds like something people get executed for tbh[/QUOTE] Conspiracy and treason are different things.

Anyone think this is going to eventually trickle down to Trump, getting him jailed?