Even Al-Qaeda thinks the ISIS is fucking insane [NSFW in source]
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[QUOTE=hl2poo;45107385]Special Forces guys battling ISIS.
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GET REKT FAGGOTS.
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they asked for snackbars and they got em alright.
Also where are you gonna put the prisoners? No one wants there to be a facility for people such as them; no matter the hypothetical necessity.
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;45096907]All these posts saying "kill them all"...
What the fuck happened to "get rid of the death penalty! Only life imprisonment!"[/QUOTE]
I view them as enemy combatants with their methodical procedures in regards to ethnic cleansing rather than what pales into comparison that criminals commit, there's a vast difference. I also think its alarming that both they can dehumanize others to a point of randomly killing on highways and that people here think that murdering every living being in the Middle East is an acceptable solution or thing to say.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107515]GET REKT FAGGOTS.
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they asked for snackbars and they got em alright.[/QUOTE]
Totally, I love witnessing death on camera so much. In fact I like it so much I'll spout "get rekt" memes on my internet forums. What a bunch of savages, they should all just be lined up against the wall and shot. Those monsters shouldn't breathe the same air nor walk on the same planet as us civilized and humane folk.
[QUOTE=Apache249;45106979]I don't want them executed. I want them stopped. That said, they're religious zealots. They're not surrendering anytime soon. That limits the options, doesn't it.[/QUOTE]
Execution is a pretty surefire way to make people fuck off.
Especially if they're refusing surrender.
[QUOTE=Melnek;45107621]Totally, I love witnessing death on camera so much. In fact I like it so much I'll spout "get rekt" memes on my internet forums. [B]What a bunch of savages, they should all just be lined up against the wall and shot. Those monsters shouldn't breathe the same air nor walk on the same planet as us civilized and humane folk.[/B][/QUOTE]
yes.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107515]GET REKT FAGGOTS.
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they asked for snackbars and they got em alright.[/QUOTE]
jesus shitsplintered christ, my fucking ears
[QUOTE=Melnek;45107621]Totally, I love witnessing death on camera so much. In fact I like it so much I'll spout "get rekt" memes on my internet forums. What a bunch of savages, they should all just be lined up against the wall and shot. Those monsters shouldn't breathe the same air nor walk on the same planet as us civilized and humane folk.[/QUOTE]
man i totally like shit replying to a thread that consists of people cheering on the deaths of terrible people!
[QUOTE=SexualShark;45107662]man i totally like shit replying to a thread that consists of people cheering on the deaths of terrible people.[/QUOTE]
Reveling in death, even that of your adversaries, is still reveling in death.
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;45107633]Execution is a pretty surefire way to make people fuck off.
Especially if they're refusing surrender.[/QUOTE]
Executing terrorists never works and it [i]won't[/i] make them fuck off.
Unless you're planning on going full ethnic-cleansing mode, murdering terrorists just spawns more of them and further empowers their beliefs, ideology and spirit.
It's the same thing that happened with the Taliban in Afghanistan, same thing that happened with the Chechens in Russia, same thing that's happening with the Palestinians in Israel, etc. Brute force never eradicates terrorism. You may be able to dwindle their numbers or demoralize them to a degree, but sooner or later they come back just as strong. Because it is much harder to fight with dignity and morals against an enemy that has none, and instead has an entirely air-tight belief system that he is literally willing to die for and even sacrifice others in the process.
It's not as simple as saying "lol just kill them". I'm extremely glad none of the people in this thread have any sort of jurisdictional power whatsoever.
[QUOTE=Apache249;45106979]I don't want them executed. I want them stopped. That said, they're religious zealots. They're not surrendering anytime soon. That limits the options, doesn't it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45106990]And how do you plan to capture tens of thousands of heavily armed militants? Where are we even going to keep that many? We'd have to open up a massive prison in a remote location surrounded by minefields and soldiers to insure nobody tries to break in or out. Who's gonna fund that?[/QUOTE]
Missed the point entirely. I was commenting how barbaric the philosophy of the thread has been so far, blatantly calling for more people to die. You could rather just say [i]'I hope they get caught,'[/i] and that can entail them dying in the process, but no, people are dehumanizing them as much as these whackos are dehumanizing others around them as an excuse to kill them (much like what's happening in the thread).
Read before you post.
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[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107635]yes.[/QUOTE]
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
You people claim to be the civilized ones yet you're just having a different system to justify your wish of having other people die. Disgusting.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;45107685]Missed the point entirely. I was commenting how barbaric the philosophy of the thread has been so far, blatantly calling for more people to die. You could rather just say [i]'I hope they get caught,'[/i] and that can entail them dying in the process, but no, people are dehumanizing them as much as these whackos are dehumanizing others around them as an excuse to kill them (much like what's happening in the thread).
Read before you post.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY, I couldn't agree more. Maybe some people like Sexualshark just enjoy the idea of death. Frankly I think that people really need to take a step back and realize this isn't some FPS where when you kill all the enemies in a level, the game is over. People on this thread have been circle-jerking over the fact that there is a large population in the world that is misguided. and thus should be killed. They seem to ignore the fact that this exact attitude is what is causing the problem. On both sides.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107635]yes.[/QUOTE]
why are you such an autistically creepy disturbed individual
i still remember seeing your okcupid account
shudder
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;45107674]Reveling in death, even that of your adversaries, is still reveling in death.[/QUOTE]
because these people will stop when you write a strongly worded letter.
because these people will stop killing when you ask nicely.
because these people want to kill me, you, everyone you know.
because these people are beyond reason.
because these people will keep killing if not stopped.
because the only way to stop these people is with a gun.
argue whatever you wish, argue the morals of killing, ethics, etc. sure, no one will be the winner in the end but atleast these people wont hurt anyone else ever again.
If they die in battle then honestly who cares, good, they had whats coming.
but if it's not needed then if you can, jail them up. It's really pointless to kill like that.
At the same time I don't exactly see them cooperating in jail very nicely.
imo you've revoked your right to live when you go around executing innocent people, especially children.
if you kill a child you've bought a one way ticket to hell one way or another.
they are vermin to cleansed, nothing more. they might be humans, but they've lost their privilege to exist. harsh response but the only one that works.
oh and if you want to see disturbed people Nodachi you can go to Iraq for yourself.
It is truly disheartening that Iraq is descending into such a state. I'm conflicted on how we should respond, as the entire past decade has apparently only fed the fire in the attempt to temper it.
It seems reasonable to respond with sufficient force to repel the threat this group poses at this time. But long term... is it going to matter at all? Otherwise beyond violent solutions I don't know what you can do to reason with these kind of people. Exposure to ideas that effectively challenge their beliefs and teachings, ideas that promote peace and tolerance, would be ideal - but how to deliver that exposure? Religious doctrines like those these people have are like a brick wall to alternate ideas.
I've often wondered as a philosophical thought experiment how an interaction would go, were telepathy possible, between a highly reasonable, logical person and a delusional, unreasonable person, assuming the exchange of thoughts between the two could not be halted by either one's free will. If the result would be the enlightenment of the previously unreasonable person, that would be a fantastic result to repeat. Pure exchange of thought and idea at a level not hindered by words or refusal to argue. Anything close to that would be a preferable alternative to more violence, were it even possible. But alas, it is not.
I wonder if anyone else has had thoughts along those lines pertaining to the attempt to devise a method to forcibly or effectively reason with the inherently unreasonable, or otherwise come up with a better idea than I, preferably something possible, to do it.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;45107770]because [/QUOTE]
All I am saying is that your exact attitude is what has gotten us into this mess. I don't mean "us - the civilized western world", I mean US, all of us. This exact attitude is what those people you are talking about think. Let me just put it this way;
[quote="Stunt terrorist #4"] these infidels will stop when you write a strongly worded letter.
because these infidels will stop killing when you ask nicely.
because these infidels want to kill me, you, everyone you know.
because these infidels are beyond reason.
because these infidels will keep killing if not stopped.
because the only way to stop these infidels is with a gun.
argue whatever you wish, argue the morals of killing, ethics, etc. sure, no one will be the winner in the end but atleast these infidels wont hurt anyone else ever again.[/quote]
Yeah...
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107794]imo you've revoked your right to live when you go around executing innocent people, especially children.
if you kill a child you've bought a one way ticket to hell one way or another.
they are vermin to cleansed, nothing more. they might be humans, but they've lost their privilege to exist. harsh response but the only one that works.
oh and if you want to see disturbed people Nodachi you can go to Iraq for yourself.[/QUOTE]
hahahah how do you not see the irony in that this is pretty much exactly what some members of ISIS would say.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107794]oh and if you want to see disturbed people Nodachi you can go to Iraq for yourself.[/QUOTE]
why go to iraq when i can see one right here
[QUOTE=NoDachi;45107974]why go to iraq when i can see one right here[/QUOTE]
Must be hard to look at yourself then my friend.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45107982]Must be hard to look at yourself then my friend.[/QUOTE]
this isn't even clever
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45107978]War isn't civilized. It's not some magical fantasy land of "oh but i'm morally superior", war is a place of hellish chaos.
Are some of these guys going to surrender and be captured? Yes.
Are there some of these guys who are going to kill every last person they come across until they themselves are killed? Yes.
War isn't nice. It's not fun. It's a sign of a failure of "civilized" measures.
Treaties and talks are "civilized". When they don't work one must resort to "un-civil" measures in order to ensure that as few people as needed are harmed.[/QUOTE]
I don't think any of us are denying that fighting is sometimes needed, what we are saying is you shouldn't get bloodlust lest you become indistinguishable from your enemies. You may be technologically superior, but the root of the issues stems from attitudes, not technology. An extremist attacks a crowded place to kill some target. Children are killed. A drone attacks a crowded place to kill some target (assuming the surrounding people are also guilty), children are killed. Rinse repeat. How long must we throw our generations at each other to justify the furtherance of just that.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;45108001]I don't think any of us are denying that fighting is sometimes needed, what we are saying is you shouldn't get bloodlust lest you become indistinguishable from your enemies. You may be technologically superior, but the root of the issues stems from attitudes, not technology. An extremist attacks a crowded place to kill some target. Children are killed. A drone attacks a crowded place to kill some target (assuming the surrounding people are also guilty), children are killed. Rinse repeat. How long must we throw our generations at each other to justify the furtherance of just that.[/QUOTE]
Isnt it different though when people actively go out and kill children while in drone strikes and the like its collateral? Saddening nonetheless.
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45108013]Isnt it different though when people actively go out and kill children while in drone strikes and the like its collateral? Saddening nonetheless.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know drones had age verification software before they launched missiles
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45108009]For as long as "civil" measures continue to fail.
We talk of how civilized we've become. But what happens when all of said "civil" measures fail. In such case harm must be done. Again physically or economically. As the ISIS has no economy per se, the only way to inflict harm is physically.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps that is true, and the way you phrased it in this last post certainly does not indicate bloodlust. Regardless, you must be aware that all of us can easily fall into that trap as soon as we start dehumanizing ANY section of the population. You can fight, but don't take pleasure in their deaths. That is the attitude I am warning of. I believe it is called wrath.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;45108022]I didn't know drones had age verification software before they launched missiles[/QUOTE]
Doesnt seem like ISIS members do either, so I guess theyre even?
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45108040]Unfortunately you have to dehumanize them in some way.[/QUOTE]
no you fucking don't
if you're having to dehumanize someone to justify killing them to ~voters~ maybe you really need to reconsider what the fuck you're doing
I bet you're one of those idiots that thought Vietnam was a great idea until those damn hippies ruined it for everyone
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45108040]
People grow more weary of war more quickly when they hear "and 90 loving caring fathers were killed by coalition forces" instead of "90 enemy combatants were killed".
And with loss of popular support, the war effort gets mired down in politics and rallies instead of being focused on the mission of "get shit done, go home".[/QUOTE]
This is a bad thing?
[QUOTE=Squad1993;45108035]Doesnt seem like ISIS members do either, so I guess theyre even?[/QUOTE]
gj being even with ISIS lmao
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