• Child porn addict jailed after visits to swimming pool
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[QUOTE=Hugg;46751152]The fact that they are kids (underage) makes it weird, even if it's unrealistic. Even if they aren't real the fact that you jack off to it BECAUSE one of the reasons is them being underage, isn't weird?[/QUOTE] Yeah it's weird, doesn't mean you should have any legal grounds to prosecute someone for jacking off to it. The reason child molestation is illegal in the first place is because it directly harms children without consent (and consent isn't possible because children aren't considered mature enough to provide real consent). You can't directly harm a drawn character because it's not real, therefore it shouldn't be illegal.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46751157]Being cautious against people who draw violent things is also fucking dumb.[/QUOTE] When I say "violent" I dont mean as in little Billy who drew a gun, but rather disturbing and graphic images of real people
[QUOTE=_Axel;46751154]Do we punish people for making or owning violent material?[/QUOTE] We do though, I mean you read stories of kids getting in trouble in school for making a pop tart gun.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46751174]You're still fining people for something which harms nobody. This is what being [B]illegal[/B] means.[/QUOTE] It might not hurt anyone but it might enable them to hurt a child as well? IT WORKS BOTH WAYS??
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46751178] (and consent isn't possible because children aren't considered mature enough to provide real consent)[/QUOTE] lot of facepuncher's gonna have you on that I hope you're ready to defend yourself
[QUOTE=ZnT00;46751009]I'm sick of seeing so many "B-but the gross pedos!" Posts. Pedophilia, in nature, is a sexual preference. Like homosexuality. It is not a disorder, and many pedophiles are, themselves, disgusted by the fact that they are aroused by children. Now, they can seek help, to suppress their urges, but everybody wanks, and a harmless medium is better than the real thing, in this case. pedophilia itself cannot be cured, nor does it make the afflicted insane, or bad people.[/QUOTE] stop with the dumb fucking homosexuality comparisons please, this alone tells me you know fuck all about this subject and you should probably stop posting. pedophilia cannot be cured because it's a fetish, not a sexual preference. that means it's something that arouses people that isn't commonly understood as arousing or considered sexually deviant. it also DOES NOT give people this uncontrollable urge to have sex with kids like so many idiot children seem to think, it literally just means a certain people is sexually attracted to children as opposed to the norm. what you morons never seem to understand is that pedophilia is almost never present in adjusted, functional people. it's usually part of a larger set of psychopathology. people who have pedophilic tendencies are almost always socially inept, have trouble forming interpersonal relations or had an otherwise stunted development. this is why child molesters always justify their behavior as legitimate or claim to "love" kids. they literally can't understand that they're hurting kids and are unable to empathize with them. only THEN it would be correct to talk about a disorder, and even then, it doesn't excuse it one bit. just stop making this dumb argument, never say these words again, not only because it's wrong, but also because it's extremely offensive to people with genuine mental disorders, lgbt, and anyone with half a brain.
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46751164]the second part of your post wasn't even a question, pedophiles, murderers, rapists, kleptomaniacs, they are all given different things to do to help them be rehabilitated, I admit with repeat offenders there is never much different done to help, but there are loads of cases where people have been rehabilitated in prison.[/QUOTE] People who are sent to prison are guilty of a crime. Owning loli or having sexual fantasies about children doesn't harm anybody. Which means people who are in that case shouldn't be sent to prison.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46751174]You're still fining people for something which harms nobody. This shouldn't be [B]illegal[/B].[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=_Axel;46751206]People who are sent to prison are guilty of a crime. Owning loli or having sexual fantasies about children doesn't harm anybody. Which means people who are in that case shouldn't be sent to prison.[/QUOTE] because the only thing on planet earth that is illegal is harm right enough
[QUOTE=CrucialSeBBi;46751188]When I say "violent" I dont mean as in little Billy who drew a gun, but rather disturbing and graphic images of real people[/QUOTE] Still fucking dumb. Unless someone directly states his willingness to go and hurt people, you have no ground to be cautious, because it's just a drawn picture.
[QUOTE=ZnT00;46751009]Like homosexuality.[/QUOTE] [B]STOP[/B]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751193]It might not hurt anyone but it might enable them to hurt a child as well? IT WORKS BOTH WAYS??[/QUOTE] How the FUCK does it enable someone to hurt a child? It's not a fucking "How to molest children" guide.
remember when we banned the disgraceful stuff from the what's your fetish thread. That was great. Well done normal people.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751193]It might not hurt anyone but it might enable them to hurt a child as well? IT WORKS BOTH WAYS??[/QUOTE] Perfectly fine to say it might not provoke anything but if you say it MIGHT provoke, it's instantly WRONG. great fucking work FP [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46751216]How the FUCK does it enable someone to hurt a child? It's not a fucking "How to molest children" guide.[/QUOTE] use your fucking brain, how does porn enable you to want to masturbate or have sex
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46751216]How the FUCK does it enable someone to hurt a child? It's not a fucking "How to molest children" guide.[/QUOTE] Cos people on FP will tell the guy, nah dude don't be ashamed it's fine you carry on. Then his lust for kids gets so intense he puts on a fursuit and runs to the nearest playground
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751193]It might not hurt anyone but it might enable them to hurt a child as well? IT WORKS BOTH WAYS??[/QUOTE] How would that enable them to hurt a child? Are they going to lure them in pretending loli is a cartoon? If anything it's actually better for them to have access to drawn CP. What's better, a pedophile who masturbates regularly to loli and thus is relieved of most of his sexual tension or one who couldn't and see actual children as the only available source of arousal?
[QUOTE=_Axel;46751237]How would that enable them to hurt a child? Are they going to lure them in pretending loli is a cartoon? If anything it's actually better for them to have access to drawn CP. What's better, a pedophile who masturbates regularly to loli and thus is relieved of most of his sexual tension or one who couldn't and see actual children as the only available source of arousal?[/QUOTE] no no no no no no fucking hell pedophillia isn't a fucking thing you appease like that jesus christ [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] fuck this im done people here are clearly just too fucking detached to understand being turned on by kids is wrong
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46750114]You're a riot. Every single thread in SH that has anything to do with pedophiles or furries, you and the rest of your goon squad swoop in to say 'but dogfuckers/pedophiles!' and then you also have the gall to paint all furries as being actual zoophiles. Ever heard of the fact 'innocent until proven guilty?' Listen, we know you dislike these things. If you have even a shred of good sense, instead of bringing out the pitchforks and torches in every single thread, you'll post about it maybe once and go your way instead of rambling on about your personal dislikes as though it's going to change anything. I have no objections to any actual pedophiles getting outed for who they are, same for actual zoophiles. What I object to is this internet detective attitude of painting anybody who happens to be a furry or into loli as being actual or potential sex offenders. That's no different to saying that 'Anybody who plays D&D is a devil worshipper' or 'anybody who supports Russia is commie scum'. I personally don't give a shit about what people are into or their fetishes, and I suggest you do the same instead of carrying on with your anti-fetish crusade. Ordinary, well adjusted people, as you're so fond of repeating ad nauseam, shouldn't give this much of a shit about something. If you can't understand how simple switching over to this kind of thinking works, I suggest getting yourself checked out for an obsession problem.[/QUOTE] Can't wait to hear your whiny rant in fast threads !
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751193]It might not hurt anyone but it might enable them to hurt a child as well? IT WORKS BOTH WAYS??[/QUOTE] You can't outlaw something on the ground that it may theoretically cause harm in some off-chance when conditions are met. You have to find some solid and consistent correlation, and "some people who masturbated to loli decided to molest children afterwards" isn't solid, consistent correlation. Maybe if you had proper statistics that showed that a majority (ie more than 50%) of the people who use lolicon eventually switch to CP or go out to molest children then you could consider it, but if those stats were even realistically producible (they aren't) the number of people who actually move onto the next level would still be absurdly small compared to people who jack off to loli with no further thoughts on anything. "It might hurt somebody" is not grounds for anything to be illegal. If it was, literally everything from breathing to scratching your balls would be illegal.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46751237]How would that enable them to hurt a child? Are they going to lure them in pretending loli is a cartoon? If anything it's actually better for them to have access to drawn CP. What's better, a pedophile who masturbates regularly to loli and thus is relieved of most of his sexual tension or one who couldn't and see actual children as the only available source of arousal?[/QUOTE] Source on that?
[QUOTE][B]AWWWWRIGHT[/B] It is commonly known that when confronted with the worst horrors the internet can offer, the appropriate response is to bellow "MOAR!" However, one must be careful what one wishes for. In the event that MOAR would cause one to still be dreaming about the picture in question at age 50, a different response becomes appropriate. A response that clarifies the impression that the subject matter has made, yet is neither MOAR, nor DO NOT WANT. Such phenomena are said to be [B]AWWRIGHT.[/B] Things which are [B]AWWRIGHT[/B] are chiefly found in (though not limited to) Japanese pornography in all its forms, and 4chan.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/a/ab/Baby-fuck.jpg"]9 out of 10 sick fucks agree that it's Awwright[/URL] *nsfw* [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Paedo" - SteveUK))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751220] use your fucking brain, how does porn enable you to want to masturbate or have sex[/QUOTE] Porn doesn't enable me to want anything, that's fucking retarded. Porn is an outlet. If you find something attractive you find it attractive, porn doesn't make you do anything. That's like saying videogames make you violent.
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46751243]no no no no no no fucking hell pedophillia isn't a fucking thing you appease like that jesus christ [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] fuck this im done people here are clearly just too fucking detached to understand being turned on by kids is wrong[/QUOTE] We understand it's fucking wrong for fuck's sake. If you only had the brainpower to understand that we'd probably be able to have an actual conversation but I assume it's easier to just conflate people who are concerned about abusive legislation as molesting apologists.
[QUOTE=greeds;46751259][URL="https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/a/ab/"]9 out of 10 sick fucks agree that it's Awwright[/URL][/QUOTE] get banned by SteveUK
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751254]Source on that?[/QUOTE] Source on loli enabling child molestation?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46751254]Source on that?[/QUOTE] Literally every study on substitute material ever conducted since the dawn of time. Substituting illegal and harmful content with legal, harmless content has always consistently worked. That's the entire principle of catharsis.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;46751075]That is the most literal example of Ad Hominem I've ever fucking seen You're literally dismissing an entire argument based on one deviant art picture. How immature do you have to be to even think this is a good rebuttal.[/QUOTE] They also don't take it too kindly that my favorite food is cereal, but I guess it's justified because I'm a furry
[QUOTE=_Axel;46751267]Source on loli enabling child molestation?[/QUOTE] Any person that gets aroused by something and does it in real life?
[QUOTE=greeds;46751259]aaaa[/QUOTE] why the fuck did you link that
[QUOTE=CrucialSeBBi;46751249]Can't wait to hear your whiny rant in fast threads ![/QUOTE] lmao show me where I rant about any of this in Fast Threads? none of us want any of this shit from SH to get cross-posted in there, the general opinion in the chat threads is that we want nothing to do with any of it.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46751216]How the FUCK does it enable someone to hurt a child? It's not a fucking "How to molest children" guide.[/QUOTE] it normalizes the sexualization of children in the mind of the pedophile. if they're also in an environment that validates this sexualization of minors (e.g. a forum like this one) it will also contribute to legitimize their lust for children and will make them more likely to have inappropriate conduct towards them. [editline]a[/editline] before you come at me with the "then videogames turn kids into killers" argument, that only applies to people without mental disorders. you can't expect someone with sociopathic tendencies to react the same way as a normal person to stimuli like violent images or children in sexual situations. EVEN THEN, while videogames do not turn kids into violent killers, they DO make them more likely to have aggressive behaviors. it's the same principle here.
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