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[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;46750028]If I have to give a reason why pedophilia is wrong to you, something is terribly wrong with you.[/QUOTE] No you don't. We all know it's very wrong. But the drawings doesn't hurt anyone, so what is the big deal?
[QUOTE=_Axel;46750044]What makes you think it doesn't simply satiate their thirst? Ever heard of catharsis? I'd rather have pedophiles beat it to drawn porn than content that actually harms children.[/QUOTE] I prefer not have pedophile's around children at all, thanks.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;46750028]If I have to give a reason why pedophilia is wrong to you, something is terribly wrong with you.[/QUOTE] No, see child rape is illegal because a child is unable to give consent, not because it's gross. Whether or not you find something offensive should have no place in deciding whether that thing is legal or not. Having sex with children is wrong because it physically and emotionally damages the child. Viewing child porn is wrong because it fuels and industry where children are abused. No children are harmed in the creation of loli, no matter how repugnant anyone considers it to be.
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[QUOTE=gokiyono;46750051]No you don't. We all know it's very wrong. But the drawings doesn't hurt anyone, so what is the big deal?[/QUOTE] The fuck? Are you reading what you are typing?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750038]You realize what this thread is about, right?[/QUOTE] Yes, a man who had real child porn, which is wrong. It's not wrong because it's disgusting, it's wrong because actual children were actually abused to create those images.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750050]Try defending child pornography with people outside, I assure you you'll get worse reactions than this.[/QUOTE] And why is this, in your mind, a reasonable argument at all? "People outside"? "Your parents"? What the hell do those things have to do anything? Do you realize how idiotic you're sounding? Try having a reasonable debate about [I]anything[/I] with people outside. I find it hilarious that you think "people outside" are the last bastion of correct opinions, when you're quite likely to get your face beaten in for insulting a stranger's football club.
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;46750069]And why is this, in your mind, a reasonable argument at all? "People outside"? What the hell does that have to do anything? Try having a reasonable debate about [I]anything[/I] with people outside.[/QUOTE] tbh the vast majority of people are rational enough to not defend loli
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750050]Try defending child pornography with people outside, I assure you you'll get worse reactions than this.[/QUOTE] That's not necessarily a good thing. I don't think anybody here is saying that paedophilia isn't gross- but I think gore is gross, and yet porn depicting violent murder is legal in most countries as long as it's not a real death being filmed. Our point isn't that paedophiles should be given a pat on the back and a 'there there', but we're just saying that they also shouldn't be treated like irredeemable demons who deserve the death penalty just because they're sexually attracted to a fucked-up thing.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750052]I prefer not have pedophile's around children at all, thanks.[/QUOTE] Since when are drawings children?
I don't really see much difference between gorn/ guro and loli porn. Both are gross to people who aren't turned on by it, both aren't the kind of thing you'd tell your friends about, both have a large following on the Internet, neither harms anybody.
An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46749975]Maybe because some people prefer not to rely on appeals to emotion when it comes to discussing uncomfortable topics. Just because you find something gross or offensive doesn't mean you can throw out reason and use arguments the equivalent of "Think of the children!"[/QUOTE] yes i agree we should discuss this in a neutral and unbiased way just like my man "FetusFondler" and the guy with an anime kid as his avatar
[QUOTE=papaya;46750079]tbh the vast majority of people are rational enough to not defend loli[/QUOTE] Defending the illegal nature of a "crime" which does absolutely no harm isn't rational.
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[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087]An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087] Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] Dude, seriously? Again with this utter rubbish? What's christmas like at your place? Do you just gather around the fireplace and discuss various topics related to pornography over biscuits?
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;46750099]What's christmas like at your place?[/QUOTE] child porn-less
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750014]Better to be considered a shitposter on a forum than a potential child molester and child porn apologist [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] It feeds pedophile's drive for children???[/QUOTE] You're a riot. Every single thread in SH that has anything to do with pedophiles or furries, you and the rest of your goon squad swoop in to say 'but dogfuckers/pedophiles!' and then you also have the gall to paint all furries as being actual zoophiles. Ever heard of the fact 'innocent until proven guilty?' Listen, we know you dislike these things. If you have even a shred of good sense, instead of bringing out the pitchforks and torches in every single thread, you'll post about it maybe once and go your way instead of rambling on about your personal dislikes as though it's going to change anything. I have no objections to any actual pedophiles getting outed for who they are, same for actual zoophiles. What I object to is this internet detective attitude of painting anybody who happens to be a furry or into loli as being actual or potential sex offenders. That's no different to saying that 'Anybody who plays D&D is a devil worshipper' or 'anybody who supports Russia is commie scum'. I personally don't give a shit about what people are into or their fetishes, and I suggest you do the same instead of carrying on with your anti-fetish crusade. Ordinary, well adjusted people, as you're so fond of repeating ad nauseam, shouldn't give this much of a shit about something. If you can't understand how simple switching over to this kind of thinking works, I suggest getting yourself checked out for an obsession problem.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087]An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] Nobody's saying it's "fine" for fuck's sake. People are saying it shouldn't be illegal. You shouldn't get imprisoned because you're thinking about nasty things. I could be dreaming of mass murdering people and that still wouldn't be grounds for punishment.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087]An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] Again, more appeals to emotion with no actual argument. Of course most regular people will be disgusted with CP, real or otherwise, but that isn't important. What is important is whether or not a child was harmed in the creation of the porn, and whether the person viewing it is likely to harm a child themselves. If the answer to both is no then there's no problem.
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Also note that Weeaboos, why don't you guys proclaim drawings of CP outside of the internet forum to the public then? Because 99% of time they will see you all as a freak and you all will be on a national news anyway.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087]An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] I think killing people is sick too, but I don't care when it happens in movies or games because it is fiction. So what is your point? [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=varg666;46750137]Also note that Weeaboos, why don't you guys proclaim drawing of cp outside of the internet forum to the public then? Because 99% of time they will see you all as a freak and you all will be on a national news anyway.[/QUOTE] Why would anyone announce child porn, or any porn for that matter?
[QUOTE=gokiyono;46750141] Why would anyone announce child porn, or any porn for that matter?[/QUOTE] "Hey guys, this is what I jack it to!"
[QUOTE=gokiyono;46750141]Why would anyone announce child porn, or any porn for that matter?[/QUOTE] Exactly, so why would you trust someone that does it to children or trust someone you don't know enough to believe they just jack it off and will never touch a child?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750161]Exactly, so why would you trust someone that does it to children or trust someone you don't know enough to believe they just jack it off and will never touch a child?[/QUOTE] i think you're actually pretty stupid
Do you trust another human enough that jerks off to children to believe they won't hurt a child?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750161]Exactly, so why would you trust someone that does it to children or trust someone you don't know enough to believe they just jack it off and will never touch a child?[/QUOTE] How do you know a guy who likes women with large breasts wont go out and rape the first big titted girl he sees? Clearly if you find something attractive you become a sex crazed monster with no self control!
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750161]Exactly, so why would you trust someone that does it to children or trust someone you don't know enough to believe they just jack it off and will never touch a child?[/QUOTE] Because I would need evidence for it. Then why would I trust a person who plays GTA to not start shooting random people?
Pretty sure Gwoodman is just doing it for reactions, no-one is this convoluted
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