• Child porn addict jailed after visits to swimming pool
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[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750173]Do you trust another human enough that jerks off to children to believe they won't hurt a child?[/QUOTE] Will you settle down with your mobile goalposts? Are you still talking about the illegality of loli or are you just aimlessly ranting at this point?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087]An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] I showed my parents normal porn with adults but instead of approving and praising me they were disgusted. I don't understand, it wasn't loli porn!
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;46749796]everyone has a first post, are you gonna say "you signed up just to post this?" every time a new user makes their first post?[/QUOTE] Seems like it's just an argument bait thread, just like awhile ago there were masses of feminist threads made by new accounts to stir shit up.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46750114]You're a riot. Every single thread in SH that has anything to do with pedophiles or furries, you and the rest of your goon squad swoop in to say 'but dogfuckers/pedophiles!' and then you also have the gall to paint all furries as being actual zoophiles. Ever heard of the fact 'innocent until proven guilty?' Listen, we know you dislike these things. If you have even a shred of good sense, instead of bringing out the pitchforks and torches in every single thread, you'll post about it maybe once and go your way instead of rambling on about your personal dislikes as though it's going to change anything. I have no objections to any actual pedophiles getting outed for who they are, same for actual zoophiles. What I object to is this internet detective attitude of painting anybody who happens to be a furry or into loli as being actual or potential sex offenders. That's no different to saying that 'Anybody who plays D&D is a devil worshipper' or 'anybody who supports Russia is commie scum'. I personally don't give a shit about what people are into or their fetishes, and I suggest you do the same instead of carrying on with your anti-fetish crusade. Ordinary, well adjusted people, as you're so fond of repeating ad nauseam, shouldn't give this much of a shit about something. If you can't understand how simple switching over to this kind of thinking works, I suggest getting yourself checked out for an obsession problem.[/QUOTE] why do you feel the need to critique everyone on what they fucking post about jesus
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46750239]why do you feel the need to critique everyone on what they fucking post about jesus[/QUOTE] What even is the point of your post then?
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46750239]why do you feel the need to critique everyone on what they fucking post about jesus[/QUOTE] For the same reason you feel the need to make fun of people and enjoy making sweeping generalizations about something that doesn't suit your sensibilities. :downs:
[QUOTE=Covalent;46749760]drawn art is fictional just like video games, does that mean we're gonna stop shooting people? give people an alternative and they'll probably find themselves sated by it, give them no way around, and their curiosity will only grow. or you can have the mentality of a sane person, and not rape kids, and just enjoy drawings, but that's too hard to do for some it seems[/QUOTE] Seriously? To equate this to video games; is this a real post? Am I dreaming?
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46750239]why do you feel the need to critique everyone on what they fucking post about jesus[/QUOTE] Because this is a forum, where people give their opinions. That is literally the definition of a forum. [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] [quote="Literally just Google, but still"]a meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46750262]Seriously? To equate this to video games; is this a real post? Am I dreaming?[/QUOTE] And another example of a stellar argument.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46750262]Seriously? To equate this to video games, is this a real post? Am I dreaming?[/QUOTE] Just so we're on equal footing here: Do you agree with victimless crimes being illegal? FYI no one here's saying loli's great, we just don't see why owning any should be punished by law.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46750260]For the same reason you feel the need to make fun of people and enjoy making sweeping generalizations about something that doesn't suit your sensibilities. :downs:[/QUOTE] because ive totally been doing that here, nice observation doctor.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46750114]That's no different to saying that 'Anybody who plays D&D is a devil worshipper' or 'anybody who supports Russia is commie scum'.[/QUOTE] nerds who play d&d, a game that happens to feature references to demons, are not devil worshipers idiots who support russia, a capitalist nation, are not communists, nor would communists be scum anyway people who wank to drawings of children being fucked will most likely find children, or at least the idea of fucking a child, or at least the idea of a hyper-idealistic anime representation of a child, sexually arousing your slippery slope arguments are fucking pathetic
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46750194]Pretty sure Gwoodman is just doing it for reactions, no-one is this convoluted[/QUOTE] Yes, I am condemning child porn for reactions and not because it's a terrible thing. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46750289]because ive totally been doing that here, nice observation doctor.[/QUOTE] You've been criticizing his post though, something which is disagreeable according to that very critic of yours.
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46750262]Seriously? To equate this to video games, is this a real post? Am I dreaming?[/QUOTE] To be fair people are using the same arguments that people agaisnt violent video games make "Adam Lanza had GTA another violent games, this must mean that they fueled his violent fantasys" "This Child Molester had loli porn, this must mean they fueled his sexual fantasys" Maybe they did fuel their twisted desires but most likely because the individuals were insane. However you can't just generalize and assume everyone doing it is likely to have the same actions.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750299]Yes, I am condemning child porn for reactions and not because it's a terrible thing. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] You'd think that after everyone calling you out on your terrible posts you'd get the hint that maybe it's time to be a little bit more rational instead of "fallacy here, appeal to emotion there, ad hominem over here, job done. I have made a fantastic post."
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750299]Yes, I am condemning child porn for reactions and not because it's a terrible thing. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Real child porn and loli are different beasts: One of them directly harms children while the other doesn't. Could you tell me the exact reason why you think ownership of loli should be punishable by law?
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;46750307] "Adam Lanza had GTA another violent games, this must mean that they fueled his violent fantasys" "This Child Molester had loli porn, this must mean they fueled his sexual fantasys"[/QUOTE] this is still slippery slope bullshit gta is a game that features violence against innocent people as an optional gameplay feature that is totally down to personal choice. the game punishes you for this violence loli is drawings of children being fucked the two don't equate at all. with all this slippery slope crap it's only a matter of time until people who disapprove of drawn child porn are equated to nazis (which has happened countless times in these arguments on fp before)
Regardless whether you think loli is harmful or not, you shouldn't encourage people with sexual desires for children to continue to believe having an arousal for little kids is OK because "it's not the real thing".
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46750026]Do you have any sources that support that claim? If not it has about as much weight as "Rock and Roll makes children worship the Devil."[/QUOTE] "NONE OF YOU HERE UNDERSTAND ME IM GOING TO MY ROOM I HATE THIS HOOOUUUSE" [I] *he locks his door as recordings of extremely loud child rape begin to rock the foundations of the house and various dogs in the suburb begin barking* [/I] "i just don't know what to do about him honey, kids were so much better in my day"
A person being a pedophile implies that the person enjoys looking at drawn childporn. A person looking at drawn childporn implies that said person is a pedophile. Would a normal person really want to look at CP??
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750328]Regardless whether you think loli is harmful or not, you shouldn't encourage people with sexual desires for children to continue to believe having an arousal for little kids is OK because "it's not the real thing".[/QUOTE] So you're not against the legality of loli then? You simply think it's gross, just like I do.
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46750239]why do you feel the need to critique everyone on what they fucking post about jesus[/QUOTE] "Didn't read lol" Just admit you're wrong, christ
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46750331]A person being a pedophile implies that the person enjoys looking at drawn childporn. A person looking at drawn childporn implies that said person is a pedophile. Would a normal person really want to look at CP??[/QUOTE] Is being a pedophile a good enough reason to be arrested?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750328]Regardless whether you think loli is harmful or not, you shouldn't encourage people with sexual desires for children to continue to believe having an arousal for little kids is OK because "it's not the real thing".[/QUOTE] I agree with you up until the point where you think a hyper-stylized anime character with childlike proportions = real child, at that point it's just utter rubbish.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750326]this is still slippery slope bullshit gta is a game that features violence against innocent people as an optional gameplay feature that is totally down to personal choice. the game punishes you for this violence loli is drawings of children being fucked the two don't equate at all. with all this slippery slope crap it's only a matter of time until people who disapprove of drawn child porn are equated to nazis (which has happened countless times in these arguments on fp before)[/QUOTE] You're the one making the slippery slope argument. It's hilarious that you can't even see that. Shooting a fictional person in a game will not make you go out and shoot a real person. Seeing a fictional child getting raped will not not make you go out and rape a child.
the guy in the news article also thought drawn cp wasn't actual cp from an old article [quote]Garda Neary said the majority of images were cartoon images of Asian children, some of which involved "gross" activities between very young children and adults. The detective told the court Watters told gardai he did not think that cartoon images were classed as child pornography. The detective pointed out that such images are included in the Child Pornography Act.[/quote] it's stuff like this thread that convinces people that loli is a-ok when really it's still illegal
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750087]An artist with intent of drawing a child getting fucked for people who want to see a child getting fucked is perfectly fine because "it's not real" Try saying that to a father or a mother, or even your own family.[/QUOTE] the emotional, uninformed reaction average people have to this discussion should not be what determines the law. i think this is just an issue people like you want to just completely dismiss with vague BS because it's "gross". but hey it doesn't matter if you can't properly explain yourself as long as other people agree with you! that's all you have to say. "try saying that to someone who agrees with me!". why? they'll probably give me an equally useless response.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750298]nerds who play d&d, a game that happens to feature references to demons, are not devil worshipers idiots who support russia, a capitalist nation, are not communists, nor would communists be scum anyway people who wank to drawings of children being fucked will most likely find children, or at least the idea of fucking a child, or at least the idea of a hyper-idealistic anime representation of a child, sexually arousing your slippery slope arguments are fucking pathetic[/QUOTE] hey you guys ready for another C'n'P sesh i got the new [I]Sex Offender in Glorious Nippon[/I] sourcebook if you wanna start rollin' up some characters
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750326]this is still slippery slope bullshit gta is a game that features violence against innocent people as an optional gameplay feature that is totally down to personal choice. the game punishes you for this violence loli is drawings of children being fucked the two don't equate at all. with all this slippery slope crap it's only a matter of time until people who disapprove of drawn child porn are equated to nazis (which has happened countless times in these arguments on fp before)[/QUOTE] GTA doesn't incite people to gang violence either, and if someone commits that after playing GTA, they're the ones to blame, not GTA or its developers. Pornography doesn't incite you to fuck anyone either, and if you do, that's entirely your own choice.
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