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People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750326]this is still slippery slope bullshit gta is a game that features violence against innocent people as an optional gameplay feature that is totally down to personal choice. the game punishes you for this violence loli is drawings of children being fucked the two don't equate at all. with all this slippery slope crap it's only a matter of time until people who disapprove of drawn child porn are equated to nazis (which has happened countless times in these arguments on fp before)[/QUOTE] are you saying that people who make the choice to commit violence in GTA think what they're doing isn't completely fictional? isn't killing people and going on rampages one of the main selling points of GTA? do you that think that people who make the choice to commit violence in GTA are more likely to commit real violence? because that's just not true, this is treaded territory.
[QUOTE=papaya;46750355]It's stuff like this thread that convinces people that loli is a-ok when really it's still illegal[/QUOTE] Thinking something shouldn't be illegal =/= thinking it's a-ok. Why is it illegal?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750326]this is still slippery slope bullshit gta is a game that features violence against innocent people as an optional gameplay feature that is totally down to personal choice. the game punishes you for this violence loli is drawings of children being fucked the two don't equate at all. with all this slippery slope crap it's only a matter of time until people who disapprove of drawn child porn are equated to nazis (which has happened countless times in these arguments on fp before)[/QUOTE] It's not even slippery slope, I'm using arguments which have already been made agaisnt violent video games use the same logic being used here. Also it's porn I know that means it's people getting fucked but what we are discussing if it does make people into child molesters, which means you need to give a valid argument not based on fallacy or assertation. [QUOTE=Doom64hunter;46750331]A person being a pedophile implies that the person enjoys looking at drawn childporn. A person looking at drawn childporn implies that said person is a pedophile. Would a normal person really want to look at CP??[/QUOTE] A person who likes killing people must like violent media A person looking at violent media implies said person likes killing people Would a normal person really want to look at violent media? This is why your logical fallacies don't work.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something[/QUOTE] Pornography isn't for entertainment? What's it for then, business?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something[/QUOTE] Could you please answer my question directly?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something[/QUOTE] But I though masturbation was for entertainment purposes?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right[/QUOTE] I do believe you'll find that pornography is considered "adult entertainment"
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46750354]Shooting a fictional person in a game will not make you go out and shoot a real person. Seeing a fictional child getting raped will not not make you go out and rape a child.[/QUOTE] you've made up an argument to argue against. i never said that looking at loli makes you want to go out and rape a child, all i said was that looking at loli means you likely enjoy the idea of having sex with a child. you can't deny that obvious possibility and don't try to equate that to "now you're saying everyone who shoots people on gta enjoys the idea of shooting people in real life" because that's more slippery slope shit any average person enjoys power fantasy ideas of "no consequence" actions and morbid curiosity. that's why games like gta are so popular. that's why everyone who has ever played gta has driven on the sidewalk. it's not the end game and it's not the reason for buying the game though. gta isn't a "driving on the sidewalk simulator" made to be wanked over loli is not equatable to that. it's not a morbid curiosity. the wanking over a child getting fucked part is not a by-product of a larger product that does not directly promote that. that IS the product. the product is wanking over drawings of children being fucked. stop trying to compare it to video games
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46750395]Pornography isn't for entertainment? What's it for then, business?[/QUOTE] for pleasure, masturbation? do you watch porn casually like it's a Quentin Tarantino movie or something?
[QUOTE=SelfishDragon;46750388] A person who likes killing people must like violent media A person looking at violent media implies said person likes killing people Would a normal person really want to look at violent media? This is why your logical fallacies don't work.[/QUOTE] "Logical fallacies" This just in: People who look at childporn aren't ACTUALLY pedophiles! The freshest news, only from facepunch.com!
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something[/QUOTE] And why does this distinction matter?
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46750354]You're the one making the slippery slope argument. It's hilarious that you can't even see that. Shooting a fictional person in a game will not make you go out and shoot a real person. Seeing a fictional child getting raped will not not make you go out and rape a child.[/QUOTE] difference is people don't touch their crusty dangs to mainstream video game violence.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;46750402]But I though masturbation was for entertainment purposes?[/QUOTE] physical entertainment yeah?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750406]you've made up an argument to argue against. i never said that looking at loli makes you want to go out and rape a child, all i said was that looking at loli means you likely enjoy the idea of having sex with a child. you can't deny that obvious possibility and don't try to equate that to "now you're saying everyone who shoots people on gta enjoys the idea of shooting people in real life" because that's more slippery slope shit any average person enjoys power fantasy ideas of "no consequence" actions and morbid curiosity. that's why games like gta are so popular. that's why everyone who has ever played gta has driven on the sidewalk. it's not the end game and it's not the reason for buying the game though. gta isn't a "driving on the sidewalk simulator" made to be wanked over loli is not equatable to that. it's not a morbid curiosity. the wanking over a child getting fucked part is not a by-product of a larger product that does not directly promote that. that IS the product. the product is wanking over drawings of children being fucked. stop trying to compare it to video games[/QUOTE] Looking at loli most probably means you're a pedophile. Being a pedophile isn't illegal, though.
[QUOTE=FetusFondler;46750404]I do believe you'll find that pornography is considered "adult entertainment"[/QUOTE] That's where children shouldn't come in to play but they do and in case you haven't noticed children in adult entertainment is wrong so what's the deal here
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750423]physical entertainment yeah?[/QUOTE] Such as football and basketball?
[QUOTE=DrTaxi;46750415]And why does this distinction matter?[/QUOTE] because one is an excellently crafted piece of media with a storyline and characters and audio and visual feedback and millions of goals in it other than "kill people" and the other is drawings of children being fucked
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750407]for pleasure, masturbation? do you watch porn casually like it's a Quentin Tarantino movie or something?[/QUOTE] Tarantino films are like 3 hours long, I don't watch them casually. Joking aside though, pleasure and entertainment are often considered the same thing.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;46750430]Such as football and basketball?[/QUOTE] ah yeh fairplay. i'm always cracking one off to footballers hurting each other. that's basically the same as wanking over drawings of children right? right?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750434]because one is an excellently crafted piece of media with a storyline and characters and audio and visual feedback and millions of goals in it other than "kill people" and the other is drawings of children being fucked[/QUOTE] Would your opinion be different if loli was a multi-million industry which churned out very high quality pornographic games?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something[/QUOTE] Porn is for entertainment purposes, what are you even saying?
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46750194]Pretty sure Gwoodman is just doing it for reactions, no-one is this convoluted[/QUOTE] Yeah, he's taking a moral high ground being against drawn child porn for reactions and not because it's the only opinion a sane person should have on the subject.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;46750430]Such as football and basketball?[/QUOTE] are you comparing sports to sexual pleasure? what is this
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750429]That's where children shouldn't come in to play but they do and in case you haven't noticed children in adult entertainment is wrong[/QUOTE] It is, it's a good job a bunch of lines made with a pen isn't a kid then.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750385]People bringing up video games and movies and shit, you realize those are for entertainment purposes and not for your jerk off material right are you going to say masturbation is a hobby or something[/QUOTE] the argument about other genres of fictional pornography like gore and rape still stand here. you can't claim with authority that viewing drawn child pornography will have any influence on a person committing any real sexual crimes towards a child if those other genres of pornography i mentioned don't and are perfectly legal as long as they aren't real. what exactly is the difference?
[QUOTE=bepassley;46750443]Yeah, he's taking a moral high ground being against drawn child porn for reactions and not because [B]it's the only opinion a sane person should have on the subject.[/B][/QUOTE] wooohoo the train is really rolling tonight
[QUOTE=_Axel;46750441]Would your opinion be different if loli was a multi-million industry which churned out very high quality pornographic games?[/QUOTE] no because the end goal, and ONLY goal of the medium is to wank over drawings of children if an incredible scorcese film had a scene graphically depicting the rape of a child for the cinematic purposes of conveying the disgusting nature of a character, i'd be totally okay with it for artistic reasons. would i watch the film? maybe not. if i did would i find it very difficult and sickening to watch? yeh sure but that's the difference between artistic medium and loli - one has violence and bad things as part of a greater product and message, the other is drawings of children being fucked made for the single purpose of being wanked over the two don't equate so stop trying to make them
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