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[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750445]are you comparing sports to sexual pleasure? what is this[/QUOTE] They are still entertainment, and it doesn't make them any less. Just like playing video games and watching porn
Edit: Nice snip crashman
[QUOTE=bepassley;46750443]Yeah, he's taking a moral high ground being against drawn child porn for reactions and not because it's the only opinion a sane person should have on the subject.[/QUOTE] Here we go with the "you're insane if your opinion differs from me" again
[QUOTE=papaya;46750046][/QUOTE] If someone is fucked up in the head enough to have sex with children he/she will do it, sooner or later but he will do it, watching loli doesn't make you want to molest children in the same way videogames don't make you want to kill people, unless you already wanted to.
[QUOTE=Crash155;46750467]Here we go with the "you're insane if your opinion differs from me" again[/QUOTE] not insane just sick
[QUOTE=Crash155;46750458]He's part of the same group of people who shitpost and make rash generalizations and accusations Hmmmm[/QUOTE] Saying child porn is wrong is a rash generalization and accusation. Are you being serious right now?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750406]you've made up an argument to argue against. i never said that looking at loli makes you want to go out and rape a child, all i said was that looking at loli means you likely enjoy the idea of having sex with a child. you can't deny that obvious possibility and don't try to equate that to "now you're saying everyone who shoots people on gta enjoys the idea of shooting people in real life" because that's more slippery slope shit any average person enjoys power fantasy ideas of "no consequence" actions and morbid curiosity. that's why games like gta are so popular. that's why everyone who has ever played gta has driven on the sidewalk. it's not the end game and it's not the reason for buying the game though. gta isn't a "driving on the sidewalk simulator" made to be wanked over loli is not equatable to that. it's not a morbid curiosity. the wanking over a child getting fucked part is not a by-product of a larger product that does not directly promote that. that IS the product. the product is wanking over drawings of children being fucked. stop trying to compare it to video games[/QUOTE] So people who like loli MUST be attracted to real children, but people who like videogame violence don't like real life violence? With Hatred being removed from, and reinstated to, Greenlight I think that's a better comparison. Hatred is a game entirely about murdering innocent people. People who enjoy playing Hatred don't necessarily want to go out and murder innocent people. I don't like the look of the game so I wont buy it. Loli is a genre about having sex with children. People who like loli don't necessarily want to go out and have sex with real children. I don't like it so I don't look at it. As long as neither of these things spills into real life there's no problem, and vilifying the people who do enjoy them does nothing except give you a temporary feeling of moral superiority. If they do in fact spill into real life then the person who commits the act was clearly mentally unstable.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;46750456]no because the end goal, and ONLY goal of the medium is to wank over drawings of children if an incredible scorcese film had a scene graphically depicting the rape of a child for the cinematic purposes of conveying the disgusting nature of a character, i'd be totally okay with it for artistic reasons. would i watch the film? maybe not. if i did would i find it very difficult and sickening to watch? yeh sure but that's the difference between artistic medium and loli - one has violence and bad things as part of a greater product and message, the other is drawings of children being fucked made for the single purpose of being wanked over the two don't equate so stop trying to make them[/QUOTE] It's still irrelevant. Whether a film or video game stands to fulfill some power fantasy, or a pornographic work stands to fulfill some sexual fantasy, you're not going to turn those fantasies into reality if that conflicts with your morals.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750476]Saying child porn is wrong is a rash generalization and accusation. Are you being serious right now?[/QUOTE] No, you're one of the same persons who accuse others of beibg a dogfucker for being furry, or a paedophile for watching anime
[QUOTE=Crash155;46750467]Here we go with the "you're insane if your opinion differs from me" again[/QUOTE] it's not a different opinion, it's a sane one
Would someone please fucking kindly answer my question? All you guys are saying is that loli is gross and socially unacceptable, and that enjoying it implies one is a pedophile. This is irrelevant to whether or not it should be illegal. Are you guys gonna address this? If not why the fuck are you still posting in this thread?
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46750479]So people who like loli MUST be attracted to real children, but people who like videogame violence don't like real life violence? With Hatred being removed from, and reinstated to, Greenlight I think that's a better comparison. Hatred is a game entirely about murdering innocent people. People who enjoy playing Hatred don't necessarily want to go out and murder innocent people. I don't like the look of the game so I wont buy it. Loli is a genre about having sex with children. People who like loli don't necessarily want to go out and have sex with real children. I don't like it so I don't look at it. As long as neither of these things spills into real life there's no problem, and vilifying the people who do enjoy them does nothing except give you a temporary feeling of moral superiority. If they do in fact spill into real life then the person who commits the act was clearly mentally unstable.[/QUOTE] You keep forgetting video games have other purposes other than "videogame violence" and loli is just jack off material?
Jesus christ, this war on loli porn. Sure, you might find it "disgusting", but why the fuck do you even care if it is not hurting anyone?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750407]for pleasure, masturbation? do you watch porn casually like it's a Quentin Tarantino movie or something?[/QUOTE] I do
[QUOTE=Str4fe;46750503]Jesus christ, this war on loli porn. Sure, you might find it "disgusting", but why the fuck do you even care if it is not hurting anyone?[/QUOTE] It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.
Anime is real life You heard it here first, folks
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750498]You keep forgetting video games have other purposes other than "videogame violence" and loli is just jack off material?[/QUOTE] Hatred doesn't. Also you have a good point. It's just jack off material, it isn't going to affect anyone mentally stable.
Where are the mods when you need them?
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46750086]I don't really see much difference between [B]gorn/ guro[/B] and loli porn. Both are gross to people who aren't turned on by it, both aren't the kind of thing you'd tell your friends about, both have a large following on the Internet, neither harms anybody.[/QUOTE] What the fuck's guro porn [editline]19th December 2014[/editline] WHY
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;46750522]Hatred doesn't. Also you have a good point. It's just jack off material, it isn't going to affect anyone mentally stable.[/QUOTE] What are your guarantees that someone that jerks off to loli is mentally stable?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750517]It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.[/QUOTE] So it seems like you completely forgot my first post. Do you have a goldfish's memory or something?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750517]It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.[/QUOTE] Again, are you going to post any proof for your claims? My guess is you'll just ignore my post and continue with your moral indignation.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750517]It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.[/QUOTE] This sounds like something that should be studied scientifically. Just like how video games prolongs peoples needs to cause
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750517]It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.[/QUOTE] So what if they [i]don't[/i] want to fuck a kid in real life? I guess that's impossible
Looks like when these threads appear facepunch turns into warzone last time i checked there was this thread about some furry stuff which got nuked fast
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750517]It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.[/QUOTE] Is that just what you think, or do you have any research to back that up? Because there [I]is[/I] research that suggests [url=http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1540-4560.1973.tb00094.x/abstract]availability of pornography (in general) reduces sex crime rates[/url].
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46750517]It's hurting the person consuming it because it prolongs their needs to fuck a kid and that's not OK at all, they should seek rehabilitation.[/QUOTE] I think loli porn gives a reason for paedophiles not to actually have sex with a minor. And i believe it is not like a drug addiction or whatever. You cant take that shit away with a rehab.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46750496]Would someone please fucking kindly answer my question? All you guys are saying is that loli is gross and socially unacceptable, and that enjoying it implies one is a pedophile. This is irrelevant to whether or not it should be illegal. Are you guys gonna address this? If not why the fuck are you still posting in this thread?[/QUOTE] i dont give a fuck whether it's illegal or not. honestly i dont think it should be illegal because of course there's no real way you can equate it to 100% irrefutable proof someone is a pedophile and, of course, it is victimless i've never once argued for it to be illegal though i'm just arguing that it's bad. it's a bad thing. it's drawings of children getting fucked. freaks in this thread can try to dumb it down to being "just entertainment, just like video games!" or spin "what if?" questions about art and try to equate disliking loli to being the same as saying anyone who plays video games is a murderer, but at the end of the day it's wanking to drawings of children. which is a bad thing. because it's children. being fucked. it serves a single purpose. even equating it to being the same as hatred is dumb as shit because at the end of it, hatred is still a video game - it requires skill and rewards players. the morals of it are heinous as shit but it's still a piece of interactive entertainment medium not designed to be wanked over. most people will play it entirely out of morbid curiosity or even just irony. people don't wank over drawings of children just "out of interest" or to be ironic
why is it that whenever a thread gets made involving questionable sexual acts gwoodman and beplassey shitpost it into oblivion
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;46750114]Every single thread in SH that has anything to do with pedophiles or furries, you and the rest of your goon squad swoop in to say 'but dogfuckers/pedophiles!' and then you also have the gall to paint all furries as being actual zoophiles. Ever heard of the fact 'innocent until proven guilty?'[/quote] Ey yo, "goon squad"? Don't even try to act like your side doesn't have their own regulars that swoop into these discussions as well, with mostly the same arguments [quote]Listen, we know you dislike these things. If you have even a shred of good sense, instead of bringing out the pitchforks and torches in every single thread, you'll post about it maybe once and go your way instead of rambling on about your personal dislikes as though it's going to change anything.[/quote] So basically the people you agree with are allowed to go on and on defending whatever it is they like but we're meant to leave after stating our opinion, aight [quote]I have no objections to any actual pedophiles getting outed for who they are, same for actual zoophiles. What I object to is this internet detective attitude of painting anybody who happens to be a furry or into loli as being actual or potential sex offenders. That's no different to saying that 'Anybody who plays D&D is a devil worshipper' or 'anybody who supports Russia is commie scum'.[/quote] Actually no, it is nothing like that. I truly believe loli can be harmful- not because of the drawings themselves. I know there's no direct victims, I know they're drawings, but that's not my point. I've said this in another thread but it's worth saying it here. It's one thing to have your own fetishes and to do whatever (legal things) you want in your own time. It's another to make it a big part of your internet persona, to publicly admit to your fetishes and to be very vocal about them, ESPECIALLY since this is Facepunch. Why? Because this isn't a forum made up of physically and mentally developed adults, it's a website where the vast majority of users are easily influenced teenagers. It's a forum where you can voice your most controversial and despicable opinions, but as long as you make it sound agreeable and don't explicitly state your point, you'll be raking in agrees. That's the big problem for me. Plenty of people here don't just defend their fetishes, they want to be identified by them. Defending what you like is one thing, plastering it everywhere you can and taking every chance you've got to not only defend it, but also make it seem like it's normal and not uncommon, is pretty fucking different. There are tons of people here who simply don't know any better, who knows what they're going to think once they see people publicly discussing sex with drawn children? The age requirement for FP is 13, for fucks sake. You people need to quit acting like everyone's a reasonable grown up with the capacity of understanding exactly what all of this encompasses. Oh, and you also need to quit acting like just because it's drawn, there's absolutely no connection to the real thing. If you have a fetish, the fact that it's depicted in a less realistic way isn't going to change what it is. It's not hard to believe someone who likes BDSM, rape porn or whatever else you can think of is going to be attracted to drawn versions of it, but when it comes to CP, the fact that they're drawings make them a whole different breed? Give me a fucking break
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