The German Government Just Banned Meat at All Official Functions - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51858494]Yes, they do produce too much milk. Ever heard of selective breeding? My sister has been a vegetarian for a year and she is now anaemic and it's caused her heart issues.[/QUOTE] Just making sure. You'd be surprised at how many people think that cows somehow magically produce milk all the time

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51858494]My sister has been a vegetarian for a year and she is now anaemic and it's caused her heart issues.[/QUOTE] probably because she eats shit food

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51858557]probably because she eats shit food[/QUOTE] Yeah people think being a vegetarian is healthy, but you can eat pizza every day and be a vegetarian.

You can also be a vegan and eat only potato chips and drink soda

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51858520]I was vegetarian for 3 years, I was perfectly fine. The plural of anecdote is not data.[/QUOTE] Not discounting what you're saying, but specifically on that quote: [url]http://blog.danwin.com/don-t-forget-the-plural-of-anecdote-is-data/[/url]

[QUOTE=Stopper;51858636]Not discounting what you're saying, but specifically on that quote: [url]http://blog.danwin.com/don-t-forget-the-plural-of-anecdote-is-data/[/url][/QUOTE] Maybe I should come up with my own then: "Anecdotes make for shitty data."

[QUOTE=TestECull;51857800]....if it's about freedom of choice then why not show meat and veg in equal portion? [B]Where's the freedom of the german public to enjoy a burger if they so desire?[/B][/QUOTE] Still there? They aren't banning meat. They are banning meat from government functions (which I understand to be parties?)

Only way I can see lab grown meat is being produced as mince meat, SPAM or other processed patties. Looking into it they can't grow fat yet, so that has to be added to the product to make it taste. At most it'll become the poor mans food if it ever takes off, but there will still be high demand from the cattle industry for real cuts of beef -- that all have different flavours and textures to their cuts; the same with pork and chicken.

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51858644]Maybe I should come up with my own then: "Anecdotes make for shitty data."[/QUOTE] That one I like!

[QUOTE=Vasili;51858676]Only way I can see lab grown meat is being produced as mince meat, SPAM or other processed patties. Looking into it they can't grow fat yet, so that has to be added to the product to make it taste. At most it'll become the poor mans food if it ever takes off, but there will still be high demand from the cattle industry for real cuts of beef -- that all have different flavours and textures to their cuts; the same with pork and chicken.[/QUOTE] At first, yes. But I don't think it's going to be the first technology in history that doesn't improve.

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;51857844]Seven posts. Seven posts before a Nazi reference is made. Its not even that I'm offended or anything but come on guys, you can do better than that. Surprisingly, not all of German history began in 1933. [/QUOTE] Well, my knowledge my German parties doesn't go that much past the Nazi Party, and I think a Communist Party joke would fall kinda flat.

Accidentally read headline as "The German Government Just Banned [B]Me[/B] at All Official Functions" - I was about to say "jeez, what did you do, OP?" But yeah, this sounds really stupid. It's no better for the environment than fertilizer, pesticides and the carbon emissions from harvesting vehicles.

[QUOTE=Eva-1337;51858769]Accidentally read headline as "The German Government Just Banned [B]Me[/B] at All Official Functions" - I was about to say "jeez, what did you do, OP?"[/QUOTE] Posted That Cat to Merkel's facebook page.

[QUOTE=Hugg;51858474]Sure, but do you seriously think the majority of our calories came from meat?[/QUOTE] Hi, Archaeologist in training here. Depended on location. If you lived in a more Tundra environment, you would have definitely been eating more meat than anything else, as plant based foods would not have been easy to come by. It you lived in a more varied enviroment it would have been more mixed, but how mixed it was is still up for debate since Archaeologists haven't really found any conclusive evidence for how much plants vs meat were eaten. Meat is very calorie dense, and it is theorized that many early Hominids and Humans scavenged from large game that had been killed by predators. So it is possible thet it made up a huge amount of our early diet, but it is also possible it did not. You do not have to eat every day, and I'm not sure that during such a period of our existence that we WERE eating every day, though this is pure speculation on my part and really hinges on how much of our diet was made up of meat vs plants. There is possible evidence of Hominem butchering about 3.4 Million years ago, but that is not entirely conclusive but it certainly seen 2 Million Years ago.

[QUOTE=bdd458;51858972]Hi, Archaeologist in training here. Depended on location. If you lived in a more Tundra enviroment, you would have definitely been eating more meat than anything else, as plant based foods would not have been easy to come by. It you lived in a more varied enviroment it would have been more mixed, but how mixed it was is still up for debate since Archaeologists haven't really found any conclusive evidence for how much plants vs meat were eaten. Meat is very calorie dense, and it is theorized that many early Hominids and Humans scavenged from large game that had been killed by predators. So it is possible thet it made up a huge amount of our early diet, but it is also possible it did not. There is possible evidence of Hominem butchering about 3.4 Million years ago, but that is not entirely conclusvie but it certainly seen 2 Million Years ago.[/QUOTE] Isn't there a correlation between people who became sedentary farmers and being shorter with smaller brains? (not an argument for eating meat though since we can have a more varied diet today with supplements and a better understanding of nutrition)

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51858978]Isn't there a correlation between people who became sedentary farmers and being shorter with smaller brains? (not an argument for eating meat though since we can have a more varied diet today with supplements and a better understanding of nutrition)[/QUOTE] There was a theory I was just reading an article about that it was possibly the increase digestible starches from cooking that led to our bigger brains. Haven't gotten to reading the journal paper the article was based on yet however.

Aren't vegetables cheaper anyways shouldn't lowered government spending be a good thing shouldn't the government try to look good and making a statement at the same time be a good thing and how does it really affect anyone else? Oh and it's not like they're coming for you next.

Hitler would literally be proud.

We also use animal byproduct for a ridiculous amount of things so thats a whole issue that also needs to be worked on simultaneously if you're going to drastically reduce the use of farm animals.

[QUOTE=Vasili;51858676]Only way I can see lab grown meat is being produced as mince meat, SPAM or other processed patties. Looking into it they can't grow fat yet, so that has to be added to the product to make it taste. At most it'll become the poor mans food if it ever takes off, but there will still be high demand from the cattle industry for real cuts of beef -- that all have different flavours and textures to their cuts; the same with pork and [B]chicken.[/B][/QUOTE] On the topic of meats and taste, and the problem of getting lab-grown meat to taste like anything... if chicken meat didn't contain bacteria, it'd be totally tasteless. But I'm sure we'll figure it out.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51860728]... if chicken meat didn't contain bacteria, it'd be totally tasteless. [/QUOTE]Can't find any info on that, mind helping out?

[QUOTE=Vegetable;51857943]Eating meat isn't a personal choice when the animal doesn't have a choice. Respect for a life should come before any taste. There are far more important things in life than that.[/QUOTE] [quote]"The total amount of suffering in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute it takes me to say these words, thousands of animals are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, feeling teeth sink into their throats. Thousands are dying from starvation or disease or feeling a parasite rasping away from within. There is no central authority; no safety net. For most animals the reality of life is struggling, suffering and death."[/quote] Please, in your own words, tell me about the "respect for life" the animal kingdom has. I'd love to hear the knowledge you have above science.

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51860774]Can't find any info on that, mind helping out?[/QUOTE] Honestly, I don't know what the original source is, because I heard this fact on the podcast [I]No Such Thing As A Fish[/I], the weekly show hosted by the writers ("elves") of British trivia panel show QI. They didn't provide a source, just tossed the fact out there. However, I did find [URL="https://nypost.com/2015/04/26/why-nothing-especially-chicken-tastes-like-it-used-to/"]this article which doesn't exactly prove that bacteria are in play but shows that the taste of chicken has been changing dramatically for other reasons.[/URL] [QUOTE=Talishmar;51861193]I can't find evidence to back this up. The taste of chicken meat consists of a myriad of chemical processes, bust is mostly credited to the specific sort of fat it contains.[/QUOTE] Beat you to it.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51860728]if chicken meat didn't contain bacteria, it'd be totally tasteless. [/QUOTE] I can't find evidence to back this up. The taste of chicken meat consists of a myriad of chemical processes, bust is mostly credited to the specific sort of fat it contains. [editline]23rd February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Stopper;51858465]Open your mouth and look at the teeth residing closest to your lips. Do you know what those are for?[/QUOTE] This is a worthless argument. The fact we evolved to be omnivores is absolutely secondary to the discussion of actual impact of our diet choices to the environment and our health.

[QUOTE=DOCTOR LIGHT;51861174]Please, in your own words, tell me about the "respect for life" the animal kingdom has. I'd love to hear the knowledge you have above science.[/QUOTE] The animal kingdom isn't even remotely comparable to your average poultry farm. Not even slightly. Excessive human consumption of meat has left some really barbaric fucking shit in its trail. People who are incapable of showing any empathy to the literally billions of animals that go through this obscene system are emotionally retarded in some way.

[QUOTE=Stopper;51858465]Open your mouth and look at the teeth residing closest to your lips. Do you know what those are for?[/QUOTE] Biting into celery?

[QUOTE=Bertie;51861229]The animal kingdom isn't even remotely comparable to your average poultry farm. Not even slightly. Excessive human consumption of meat has left some really barbaric fucking shit in its trail. People who are incapable of showing any empathy to the literally billions of animals that go through this obscene system are emotionally retarded in some way.[/QUOTE] As an avid meat-eater, I second this. There is no reason for factory farms to be allowed to operate the way they do. I don't care if the meat costs more. The conditions are so unbelievably horrific that to avoid infections killing off a shitload of the stock, they pump 'em full of antibiotics which then leads to superbugs etc.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51857758]Oh god, they now objectively throw the worst parties.[/QUOTE] inb4 Hitler was a vegetarian! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("inb4 meme" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=bunguer;51858307]If everyone went vegan overnight it would be catastrophic.[/QUOTE] It would really suck too. I would have to give up [I]all[/I] of my favorite foods.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51862384]It would really suck too. I would have to give up [I]all[/I] of my favorite foods.[/QUOTE] Meat I'd give up, but cakes just aren't the same without bird menstruation and bovine lactation.