• Shit hits fan as pilots ignore tower and land on runway with a car driving across it
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[QUOTE=smeismastger;39932830]The funniest part is that you never had a gf[/QUOTE] i did and her name was lefty
[QUOTE=draugur;39928024]Van's fault. Should investigate that moron instead.[/QUOTE] I love the number of dumbs you received for the comment. People totally ignorant of Aviation and how it operates. A 2.5 metric ton van traveling across a movement area on an ACTIVE runway. A 70 metric ton aircraft full of 200+ passengers coming into land. The aircraft, which is landing on an ACTIVE RUNWAY is the priority vehicle to be there. The Van is not. Odds are either ATC or the Van fucked up. ATC should have held the van on the taxi-way or beyond the movement area until the jet was clear and landed safely. Airports are for Airplanes. Not Vans. Hence why they have the right of way (Aircraft). Title is horribly misleading. [b]edit:[/b] And to defend that statement; [quote]"...However, the pilots ignored the orders and landed anyway"[/quote] ATC is more or less a suggestion, not an Order. Pilots ultimately have the final say as to the operation of the aircraft. If the aircraft has an issue and [u]must[/u] land or the Pilots do not have enough time for a Go-Around / Course adjustment. They are justified in deviating from ATC's clearance. Though I wouldn't doubt that ATC would be a little upset about it. [quote]Airport officials later found the unoccupied van with its “engine running, engaged in gear,” according to a preliminary Transport Canada report. It said the van’s driver had been servicing a Sunwing aircraft at a nearby gate. He came out of the aircraft and found the van missing. Tasker, who will lead the probe, said the van travelled more than half a kilometre from its starting point at a speed that never topped six kilometres an hour.[/quote] So apparently the driver of the van either left it running and in drive / neutral. Allowing it to roll into an active area of the airport. The fault was NOT with the pilots, despite the deviation from ATC's instructions.
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[QUOTE=Keys;39936454]Pilots ultimately have the final say as to the operation of the aircraft.[/QUOTE] And this pilot used his final say to nearly crash the plane into a van. He had the information, he had control of the plane, he landed anyway. His fault.
[QUOTE=meppers;39928549]people are always driving cars on runways [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ax5ZIdFoW1U/St2Q1y68BkI/AAAAAAAAcho/lrPZHYVWjNw/s400/gibraltar-airport-runway-02.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] All it takes is one drunk driver....
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;39933516]"Don't land, I repeat DON'T LAND! WHAT THE SHIT! YOU'RE LANDING! STOP IT! STOOOP IIIT" "Hm, I wonder who those orders are directed to?"[/QUOTE] Yeah, is that an actual quotation from the ATC? Airports have multiple runways, there isn't only one person coming in at a time. He got the go ahead to land. 99.99% of the time after you're given this order, it isn't canceled.
[QUOTE=ultra_bright;39936841]All it takes is one drunk driver....[/QUOTE] Obviously planes only taxi across that strip, takeoffs or landings across something like that would be insane
Everything failed at this airport. A vehicle left unattended and in condition to roll away. Crap randomly rolling out onto the runway. A warning to incoming aircraft not to land totally ignored. Pilots doing what ever the fuck they want. I'm sure the Seconds From Disaster people are going "Goddamnit! That would have been an awesome episode!" right now.
You mean 15 meters from disaster?
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;39937911] I'm sure the Seconds From Disaster people are going "Goddamnit! That would have been an awesome episode!" right now.[/QUOTE] Are they still making new episodes?
Only thing though is that when you are cleared to land its almost never revoked. Vans rolling onto a runway never happens so I doubt anyone, both the pilots and the controler weren't expecting this, so the pilots kept landing because that is the norm, and the controler in a more or less paniced state forgets to say "air canada" (which is what the pilots would be listening for to get their attention) in front of the flight number. From experience plain number registrations are hard to hear over radio chatter over an extended period of time, many times controllers talking to people flying around have to repeat number only callsigns or say the full registraion to get peoples attention.
[QUOTE=muffinmastah;39938586]Only thing though is that when you are cleared to land its almost never revoked. Vans rolling onto a runway never happens so I doubt anyone, both the pilots and the controler weren't expecting this, so the pilots kept landing because that is the norm, and the controler in a more or less paniced state forgets to say "air canada" (which is what the pilots would be listening for to get their attention) in front of the flight number. From experience plain number registrations are hard to hear over radio chatter over an extended period of time, many times controllers talking to people flying around have to repeat number only callsigns or say the full registraion to get peoples attention.[/QUOTE] Agreed. The event occurred at around midnight, and the ATC sounded half asleep. He said it two times, very fast, and that was all.
Oh whew, I read "Shit hits fan as pilots ignite tower and land on runway with a car driving across it." I was so confused when I entered the thread.
[QUOTE=Rayboy1995;39940520]Oh whew, I read "Shit hits fan as pilots ignite tower and land on runway with a car driving across it." I was so confused when I entered the thread.[/QUOTE] the passenger jets man they're rigged to have napalm and they're not telling ANY OF US :tinfoil:
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