Microsoft to remove the start button for windows 8
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Apparently they removed the show desktop button too.
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/qsRqOf.png[/IMG]
I don't know what the hell they're thinking, it serves to benefit at all to do that.
[QUOTE=nikomo;34605809]This is a start menu:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/OiQuL.png[/img]
This is a tile-based main display that belongs on a tablet with a touchscreen, not a desktop machine:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/uKPIX.png[/img][/QUOTE]
The tile based start menu stores more programs in a grid that makes them larger (= faster to click) and allows them to display information aside from an icon and name. The only downside to it is that you can't access any other programs while it's open.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;34600858]I've been running DP as well, and I'm loving it. I'm talking about the thumbnail itself, it's looks like a smurf took a crap on a bad day.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more, it's like they forgot how to make the start look nice on the desktop in Windows 8.
[QUOTE=nikomo;34605809]This is a start menu:
This is a tile-based main display that belongs on a tablet with a touchscreen, not a desktop machine:
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I have to disagree, you can still do everything in the new start screen as you can in the start menu, if not better. Not only can it display more information (which is directly related to the size of your screen), but it can do it in a more efficient way (because there's two dimensions rather than just one).
Don't disregard the new start menu as useless to desktop users until you have tried the beta (not the dev preview as it targets touch users).
[QUOTE=install gentoo;34606055]The tile based start menu stores more programs in a grid that makes them larger (= faster to click) and allows them to display information aside from an icon and name. The only downside to it is that you can't access any other programs while it's open.[/QUOTE]
It's not like you could access other programs with the start menu open anyway.
Microsoft is consistent, I'll give them that
Shit OS, Good OS, Shit OS, Good OS, Shit OS, Good OS, and now a Shit OS again
[QUOTE=Panda X;34606031]Apparently they removed the show desktop button too.
[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/qsRqOf.png[/IMG]
I don't know what the hell they're thinking, it serves to benefit at all to do that.[/QUOTE]
With the new start menu a desktop in the traditional sense is really obsolete. There's no reason to use it for anything other than displaying a picture when nothing else is open.
[QUOTE=install gentoo;34606113]With the new start menu a desktop in the traditional sense is really obsolete. There's no reason to use it for anything other than displaying a picture when nothing else is open.[/QUOTE]
It still shows the desktop as before though so there's no reason to just remove the indication that something's there. It is absolutely pointless, and some people are still going to use the desktop as it's a whole lot better for multitasking.
I honestly believe Microsoft's design team for the Windows division are really incapable of doing anything properly every since Whistler Beta 2.
If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
It's a perfect design the way it is, leave it the fuck alone, stop trying to be edgy. Be innovative when it adds to your product's functionality, not take away from it
[QUOTE=TheTalon;34606312]If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
It's a perfect design the way it is, leave it the fuck alone, stop trying to be edgy. Be innovative when it adds to your product's functionality, not take away from it[/QUOTE]
no, you're just afraid of a little bit of change
this isn't even a public release, and if you know even the smallest snippet of software development, anything within the development cycle is subject to change
[QUOTE=Ownederd;34606355]no, you're just afraid of a little bit of change[/QUOTE]
They aren't even changing anything aside from making the buttons invisible; what's the point aside from making it more confusing for new users?
For me its not that they are changing something, it's that the change is completely pointless.
Who the fuck is actually going to use the metro interface on a PC? I can see it being useful on tablets but come on.
[QUOTE=JoshJosh117;34609520]Who the fuck is actually going to use the metro interface on a PC? I can see it being useful on tablets but come on.[/QUOTE]
I use it a lot on my laptop, more often than I use the normal start menu on my desktop, pretty much.
It's pretty common knowledge that there's no more start "menu" anymore, the button just switches to the Tablet looking menus.
get xp, skip vista, get 7, skip windows 8, get windows 9
instead of falling into the Apple trap of releasing a slightly improved version far too quickly, Microsoft allows their tech-savvy consumers to save money by making every second release absolutely shit
[editline]9th February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=T3hGamerDK;34589680]
If she can use Linux, I'm willing to bet that a SHITTON of people can learn this too, if not everyone, then at least government employed individuals, since it would save a shitton of money for non-important dummy-terminals to just use a Linux system like Mint or Ubuntu, instead of shitting out money for Microsoft.
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Yeah, quite a few governments are transitioning to custom builds of linux.
IIRC some Canadian governments are using it, the Russian fed gov and Brazil, among others.
This is going to go exactly the same way Unity did for Ubuntu.
[QUOTE=mr apple;34585915]I guess we're gonna have to wait for windows 9 to get the next decent OS.
XP (good) -> Vista (shit) -> Windows 7(good) -> Windows 8 (shit)
See pattern?[/QUOTE]
Oh wow four OSs, such reliability, you should base all your opinions of an OS on the fact that there was a 'shit' (it isn't that bad, it still works and functions resonabally well) OS between two good ones.
[QUOTE=mr apple;34585915]I guess we're gonna have to wait for windows 9 to get the next decent OS.
XP (good) -> Vista (shit) -> Windows 7(good) -> Windows 8 (shit)
See pattern?[/QUOTE]
Implies that Win2k would also be shit. Not to mention XP got the same hate as Vista did when it released, only difference was it was out longer than Vista before the next version of Windows came out, so XP's reputation changed during that time, and Vista didn't because by the time it took people to like XP, the same time in Vista's timeline 7 was already out for testing so no one bothered trying it a second time. Nice try though.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;34584262]Who's idea was this?
"Yeah, so we're going to add in some new features, make things a bit more user friendly, but that start button? That's gotta go."[/QUOTE]
That 1 button that leads to everything? Yeah, that's not important at all.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;34626576]That 1 button that leads to everything? Yeah, that's not important at all.[/QUOTE]
Even if it was gone. (Which it isn't)
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3536420/Windows-Key.jpg[/img]
Problem solved!
It will do nothing.
Windows 8 - Your PC is now a tablet.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;34626576]That 1 button that leads to everything? Yeah, that's not important at all.[/QUOTE]
The button is there, it just doesn't show up until you hover there, I assume MS will add some kind of icon again at some point, as it being entirely invisible is a bit arse backwards. But it does make the desktop look much cleaner.
[B]This bit isn't important, but read it anyway for fucks sake.[/B]
The Metro version is a shit ton more functional than the Start menu we know and love/loathe today. Microsoft didn't just change it for the shits and giggles, they put a lot of research into UX to make sure that it works well across everything. The tiles are actually really nice for mouse input, as you don't need to be precise to hit them, you can just swing your mouse where you put the tile (as you position them, it will be a logical placement for you), and click, chances are, you hit it every time!
Search works the same as the old menu, start typing, it starts searching. Simple enough, and that is pretty much all most power users use when they open the start menu anyway. If the tiles do have live functionality, you could easily have stuff displaying realtime information while in the menu too, which is a great boost for productivity in some places.
Basically, desktop Metro will work really well, you just need a small bit of time to adjust to it, it's not bad, and the Metro design specification is a amazing attempt at standardising the UI for once by MS. Plus it just looks nice.
Source(s): The Microsoft Windows 8 developers blog.
I haven't used the start button in two years. I have a program that actually removes it for me. I just use the windows key instead.
God darn it. It wont be right without the start button. It just wont fit in... D:
[QUOTE=Zanfall;34626778]Even if it was gone. (Which it isn't)
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3536420/Windows-Key.jpg[/img]
Problem solved![/QUOTE]
This just in... BREAKING NEWS: WINDOWS BUTTON TO BE REMOVED FROM ALL KEYBOARDS WORLDWIDE.
Lol, what if.
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