Male Office Flirters Do It Out of Boredom and Not For Sex
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[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;35674776]Totally OK.[/QUOTE]
Well thats what I get for typing a rage response while reading news about Trayvon Martin...
Wait. Did you just edit my post so it said blacks? What the fuck kind of person are you?
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35673772]Related:
[img]http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/bg/ia6/mffz/311792/normal_957791929.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
The funny thing about this image is that even if the situations depicted within were real, men would still be to blame because these "double-standards" that women "benefit from" are the result of the patriarchy that we live in i.e. men's advances/behaviors/actions are perceived to be egregious and offensive only because of the fact that their social standing is superior to women's and therefore they have a greater capacity to cause damage. So we're right back at square one.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;35675214]Well thats what I get for typing a rage response while reading news about Trayvon Martin...
Wait. Did you just edit my post so it said blacks? What the fuck kind of person are you?[/QUOTE]
The sentiment is exactly the same.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;35667546][IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/20/article-0-053BFE020000044D-803_474x454.jpg[/IMG]
How I love stock photos[/QUOTE]
[I]Have you read all these documents on salads? They're hilarious![/I]
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35673850]Double standards.
Can't really deny their existence now can you?[/QUOTE]
Women have to deal with just as many bullshit double standards as we do. Difference is, they make on average 70 cents for each dollar we do.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35669699]oh no i get paid 43% on average more than these people who are persecuting me oh the yoomanity[/QUOTE]
Terrible use of math is terrible.
[QUOTE=Melkor;35677643]Women have to deal with just as many bullshit double standards as we do. Difference is, they make on average 70 cents for each dollar we do.[/QUOTE]
I hate that argument because it's inaccurate.
Here, watch this.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwogDPh-Sow[/media]
[QUOTE=Master X;35677707]Terrible use of math is terrible.[/QUOTE]
uhh
Women get paid 70 cents on the dollar compared to men.
~43% of 70 is ~30.
70 + 30 = 100.
Men make ~43% more than women on average (rounded to whole numbers).
Perhaps before you accuse me of "terrible math" you should fucking go to Wolfram and run "70 + 43%" and see what you fucking get.
[editline]22nd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35678070]I hate that argument because it's inaccurate.
Here, watch this.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwogDPh-Sow[/media][/QUOTE]
oh hey look a video about women narrated exclusively by a fat, bald white man.
yeah okay
[QUOTE=Lankist;35678107]uhh
Women get paid 70 cents on the dollar compared to men.
~43% of 70 is ~30.
70 + 30 = 100.
Men make ~43% more than women on average.
[editline]22nd April 2012[/editline]
oh hey look a video about women narrated exclusively by a fat, bald white man.
yeah okay[/QUOTE]
Even if Godzilla was narrating it it's still true.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35678160]Even if Godzilla was narrating it it's still true.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't.
He's saying "women make less money because all women make shitty career decisions" and "all female employees are mommies first and hard workers second."
It's fucking stupid bullshit and I don't know how you can try to pass of that kind of misogynistic garbage as some sort of vindicating evidence.
That motherfucker clearly has never even MET a woman, thirdly.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35678178]No it isn't.
He's saying "women make less money because all women make shitty career decisions" and "all female employees are mommies first and hard workers second."
It's fucking stupid bullshit and I don't know how you can try to pass of that kind of misogynistic garbage as some sort of vindicating evidence.
That motherfucker clearly has never even MET a woman, thirdly.[/QUOTE]
Ok, here's the same shit from a woman.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMkDEe8ypfU&feature=related[/media]
What now?
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35678240]Ok, here's the same shit from a woman.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMkDEe8ypfU&feature=related[/media]
What now?[/QUOTE]
Still wrong. Stupid jackass who thinks there is no problem and accusing people far more credible and steeped in evidence than her of fudging the numbers for some RADICAL FEMINIST AGENDA.
Any moron who says "Here's what they DON'T tell you" had better come up with a better explanation for WHY this supposedly hidden truth about the world was hidden away until they miraculously discovered it in a private conservative college.
They're both saying women get paid less because women deserve less, only in more words.
You are wrong and I advise you to drop this line of discussion.
Ok, how about this one?
[url]http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_wage_gap_myth.html[/url]
The facts are there and has been for many years.
It's only rational that women do get paid less, because they don't work in the same fields as men so often. I doubt that a female engineer get's paid 25% less than a male engineer when they're doing the same job with equal intensity and quality. If they do, that's discrimination, but if they get paid less, because they do a different job, it makes sense.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35678351]Ok, how about this one?
[url]http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_wage_gap_myth.html[/url]
The facts are there and has been for many years.
It's only rational that women do get paid less, because they don't work in the same fields as men so often. I doubt that a female engineer get's paid 25% less than a male engineer when they're doing the same job with equal intensity and quality. If they do, that's discrimination, but if they get paid less, because they do a different job, it makes sense.[/QUOTE]
Here's the facts:
Women working the exact same jobs with the exact same workloads receive $0.70 on the dollar to their male counterparts. You can continue to pretend this is a god damn issue of qualifications and career decisions, but it simply isn't.
You are rationalizing sexist business practices by saying women are underqualified/lazy/bad at making career decisions, but you are only further entrenching yourself in misogyny. You can post as many fucking conservative blogs as you want, it doesn't change the national statistics.
Here's some data from the department of labor's comparison between men and women working equivalent jobs:
[url]http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2009.pdf[/url]
Perhaps you should read the data these dumbasses are trying to rationalize before you listen to the dumbasses.
Women with a bachelor's degree or higher education (i.e. professionals) are paid 73.1% of the wages of their male counterparts. This is NOT because of career decisions, these individuals have attained the exact same education as their counterparts and are working in the same fields.
For comparison, women who did not finish highschool earn 76.4% of the wages of their male counterparts.
If this were about qualifications, why the fuck are DROPOUTS making MORE than the graduates? Why the fuck is the disparity smaller between *actually* unskilled female workers than skilled, educated, female working professionals.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35678451]Here's the facts:
Women working the exact same jobs with the exact same workloads receive $0.70 on the dollar to their male counterparts. You can continue to pretend this is a god damn issue of qualifications and career decisions, but it simply isn't.[/QUOTE]
And you did the research, am I right?
At the very end of that link the issue seems to go all the way around:
[quote]
-women who have never had a child earn 113 percent of what men earn
-there are some 80 fields where women earn more than men
-about 80 percent of the jobs lost in the recession were lost by men
-males are exponentially more likely to become incarcerated or homeless
-males disproportionately sacrifice much of their prime years in service of the military
-the male-to-female ratio on college campuses is now about 40/60
-approximately 93 percent of workplace fatalities are men
-among unmarried college-educated men and women between 40 and 64, men earn nearly 15 percent -less[/quote]
Holy damn, it seems that women get away with much less than men. I better make a huge fucking issue about this and push in a bill that makes it mandatory for women to become construction workers and shit.
[QUOTE=Hullu V3;35678497]And you did the research, am I right?
At the very end of that link the issue seems to go all the way around:
Holy damn, it seems that women get away with much less than men. I better make a huge fucking issue about this and push in a bill that makes it mandatory for women to become construction workers and shit.[/QUOTE]
You might want to look up one post and read.
[editline]22nd April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lankist;35678451]Women with a bachelor's degree or higher education (i.e. professionals) are paid 73.1% of the wages of their male counterparts. This is NOT because of career decisions, these individuals have attained the exact same education as their counterparts and are working in the same fields.
For comparison, women who did not finish highschool earn 76.4% of the wages of their male counterparts.
If this were about qualifications, why the fuck are DROPOUTS making MORE than the graduates? Why the fuck is the disparity smaller between *actually* unskilled female workers than skilled, educated, female working professionals.[/QUOTE]
Also on Page 10 of that report is a breakdown of the gender wage disparity by profession.
For instance, female Chief Executive Officers (CEOs) make, on average, 74.5% compared to their male counterparts. This is the SAME profession. The SAME job with the SAME workload. These are people who run a fucking company, and they make less.
Female Medical Scientists earn 70.2%.
Female lawyers earn 74.9%
Female legal professionals in general earn [B]56.6%[/B]
These are NOT attributable to mommy issues or career planning. These are professionals who have achieved the same career status as their male counterparts and get paid magnitudes less for it.
[editline]22nd April 2012[/editline]
If you hear a hissing noise right now, that's the sound of your bullshit flying out the goddamn window.
Boy, sure is Lankist in here.
I'm just waiting for Sanius and thisispain to jump in.
I'm making popcorn in anticipation.
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[QUOTE=Lankist;35679044]people still haven't learned that when you challenge me for evidence, I'm going to give you a 90 page government report with twelve different tables each going into excruciating detail in regards to how fucking wrong you are. And you had better fucking read it.
Oh, you have a youtube video from some conservative talking head? That's adorable. Here's a dissertation from the Department of Labor.
Although I think I might have scared Hullu away with all of these [B]bolded numbers[/B] and [I]italics[/I].[/QUOTE]
Don't ever change, love. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;35679020]Boy, sure is Lankist in here.
I'm just waiting for Sanius and thisispain to jump in.
I'm making popcorn in anticipation.[/QUOTE]
people still haven't learned that when you challenge me for evidence, I'm going to give you a 90 page government report with twelve different tables each going into excruciating detail in regards to how fucking wrong you are. And you had better fucking read it.
Oh, you have a youtube video from some conservative talking head? That's adorable. Here's a dissertation from the Department of Labor.
Although I think I might have scared Hullu away with all of these [B]bolded numbers[/B] and [I]italics[/I].
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;35679020]Boy, sure is Lankist in here.
I'm just waiting for Sanius and thisispain to jump in.
I'm making popcorn in anticipation.[/QUOTE]
Sanius is already here, and I've got light pop in the microwave. Come join me!
[editline]22nd April 2012[/editline]
I think we all agree that we love Lankist.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35678451]
[url]http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2009.pdf[/url]
[/QUOTE]
I don't want to go through 90 pages right now can you direct me to the part about women working the same job and making less.
[QUOTE=cornndog;35679178]I don't want to go through 90 pages right now can you direct me to the part about women working the same job and making less.[/QUOTE]
Even-numbered pages 10-34.
General demographic data, including race and education on the pages immediately prior.
Listening to classical music while watching the arguments grow makes things greater.
[QUOTE=Negrul1;35673645]
i fucking hate this stereotype it is so completely untrue but it is one of those things that people (mainly women, but even some men) just accept without even thinking about it
it's retarded and offensive and i hate it[/QUOTE]
the worst about it is that a great portion of men on the internet have to perpetuate it with dumb shit like "i can fap to this" etc.
there are some people buying right in the whole "sex-crazed beasts" sterotype and then they complain that it's what they're viewed as
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;35679375]the worst about it is that a great portion of men on the internet have to perpetuate it with dumb shit like "i can fap to this" etc.
there are some people buying right in the whole "sex-crazed beasts" sterotype and then they complain that it's what they're viewed as[/QUOTE]
It's called biological imperative you might want to google it before you pretend you don't have a libido otherwise you're what's called a eunuch
There's no shame in it but don't try to deny the biology of our male sex-drive.
And before you say it, no, the female sex-drive is not equivalent.
There's a reason why human reproduction is dictated by near-universal forces called "Male Competition" and "Female Choice." The female sex-drive is far less aggressive as a consequence of the male's much more competitive nature. Like it or not, men ARE more obsessed about sex than women, on a basic level.
Thankfully, this drive tends to level out after successful coupling and child-birth. This also happens to be the primary reason why the "wooing" stage of the male's half of the relationship tends to fade after childbirth, in favor of a much more protective stance as the male exits typical reproductive age.
[editline]22nd April 2012[/editline]
Also, Fun Gender Fact!
The genetic difference between a human and a chimpanzee of the same gender is roughly 2%.
The genetic difference between a male human and a female human is also roughly 2%.
If we defined species barriers solely by genetic difference, men and women would belong to two distinct species!
THE MORE YOU KNOW
[QUOTE=Lankist;35679462]THE MORE YOU KNOW[/QUOTE]
I'm glad I've read your posts before so I know you're making fun of this shit, because what you wrote was so hilariously close to what actual biotruth-peddlers believe that I probably would have mistaken it for the real thing
Why do you guys fight? Half of the shit you guys fight over seem to be antecedal.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;35679880]I'm glad I've read your posts before so I know you're making fun of this shit, because what you wrote was so hilariously close to what actual biotruth-peddlers believe that I probably would have mistaken it for the real thing[/QUOTE]
I'm not mocking it. It [I]is[/I] the case, regardless of how the uneducated masses interpret it.
The notion that women are genetically "weaker" than men is a quite a stretch, because that depends entirely upon how you define weakness. If you're talking about fitness in a sense of natural selection, women tend to be more fit than men, in actuality. This is because, in a natural setting, the female is the only party who can be absolutely sure that an offspring is [I]hers[/I], while the male can't be entirely sure if he is caring for his own offspring or the offspring of another male. (There is no Maury in the jungle.)
As for physical capabilities, while men tend to be more physically strong than women, women tend to be more agile and dextrous (and thus, better at fashioning tools). The fact that women typically don't know how to fight is less to do with biological differences and more to do with the fact that our society does not encourage women to know how to fight and defend themselves. A woman who [I]does[/I] know how to fight can quite easily hold her ground against a male, especially considering the male has quite a few more Achilles Heels than the female.
This is seen in territorial primates, in which a territorial female will fucking [I]murder[/I] anything that enters her turf (ESPECIALLY if she is of a monogamous species and has already coupled). We don't really see female strength exhibited very often due to the cooperative and polygamous nature of most primate species.
TL;DR men and women are different parallel to one another, not in opposite directions.
oh.
well, I guess you're not actually using it to justify stupid shit, so...
[QUOTE=Turnips5;35680186]oh.
well, I guess you're not actually using it to justify stupid shit, so...[/QUOTE]
The reason we have a society is to DETER the natural order, not to encourage it. Anyone who thinks otherwise understands neither the science nor the politics.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35680009]women tend to be more fit than men, in actuality. This is because, in a natural setting, the female is the only party who can be absolutely sure that an offspring is [I]hers[/I], while the male can't be entirely sure if he is caring for his own offspring or the offspring of another male. (There is no Maury in the jungle.)
As for physical capabilities, while men tend to be more physically strong than women, women tend to be more agile and dextrous[/QUOTE]
I don't care which "side" you're trying to back up or whatever, it's still
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