Bachmann: "The gay community have so bullied the American people" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;44205192]How are the very same gay parades are not "showing x down throat"? They are forcing me to see that they are gay and they are proud of it. How many flying fucks should I give? Ridiculous logical fallacy.[/QUOTE] forcing you to see that they're gay and proud. lol, well, next time i see someone wearing a cross i'm gonna rip it from their neck STOP FORCING ME TO SEE THAT YOU'RE CHRISTIAN, next time i see a straight couple kiss i'm gonna rip them apart STOP FORCING ME TO SEE THAT YOU'RE STRAIGHT next time next time next time. notice how in reality the only thing you actually have a problem with is gay people? i wonder if you know what this makes you. (rhymes with 'gomophobe')

She has a vested interest in suppressing and making gays feel sub human. She runs a fucking anti gay conversion camp.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44209576]forcing you to see that they're gay and proud. lol, well, next time i see someone wearing a cross i'm gonna rip it from their neck STOP FORCING ME TO SEE THAT YOU'RE CHRISTIAN, next time i see a straight couple kiss i'm gonna rip them apart STOP FORCING ME TO SEE THAT YOU'RE STRAIGHT next time next time next time. notice how in reality the only thing you actually have a problem with is gay people? i wonder if you know what this makes you. (rhymes with 'gomophobe')[/QUOTE] I just like to ask what the t stands for.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44209460]I never said that. Stop saying I said that. I even specifically said in one of the previous posts that I don't support this argument. But sexuality has nothing to do with your personality. Gay people aren't different or something like that. It tells you nothing about a person. And aren't we adopting a position where nobody (except people involved ofc) should care with who and what you do in your bedroom and shouldn't have anything to say in the matter? There are topics that you don't talk about unless someone wants to know. Those are private topics. Sharing private stuff with people that don't want to know is awkward, creepy, eyebrow-raising and generally not welcome. It's not just my standards. Why should there be exception for gays? Equality remember?[/QUOTE] You can't say that you aren't of the position that people shouldn't do certain things when in the very same post you say that people shouldn't do certain things. Your personality is whatever you make of it. It's whatever you're comfortable being. Being gay may not change who you are, but it can be an important part of someone's identity, especially if they've been ostracized because of it. Embracing parts of yourself that other people find disgusting and unwelcome is a perfectly natural response. It's how people take control of their own identities and keep hold of their self respect even when society at large is telling them that they're perverted freaks. and who gives a fuck what's proper or not? if people want to get their panties in a knot, that's their own problem to deal with.

Bachmann said. "Right now, there's a terrible intolerance afoot in the United States, and it's against people who hold bigotry and hatred as the cornerstones of their sincerely held religious beliefs." Bachmann's saying that its not okay to be intolerant of bigotry and hatred as long as its...religious?

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44205025]The treatment of the person saying the same thing is going to change drastically because you can't criticize anything connected to homosexuality without being a homophobe.[/QUOTE] there's a difference between "I don't like what X group of people do" and "They shouldn't be allowed to do things that I don't like"

[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;44209751]Bachmann said. "Right now, there's a terrible intolerance afoot in the United States, and it's against people who hold bigotry and hatred as the cornerstones of their sincerely held religious beliefs." Bachmann's saying that its not okay to be intolerant of bigotry and hatred as long as its...religious?[/QUOTE] Yeah that's pretty much what that means.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44209110]When I said "made up people" I meant when you said that the thread was full of people who oppose flaunting sexuality yet like mardi gras. Stop twisting my words. Sorry I was editing the post few times and messed it up. Meant to say "anything related to homosexuality". I didn't mean criticizing homosexuality itself lol, it's not something that can be criticized. How the hell, is not liking when people tell you details about their sex life when you didn't ask them unjustified? And how am I hypocritical? Okay, but the real question was, in the perfect state of things, how important should a person's sexuality be? Should be as insignificant as say color of your eyes?[/QUOTE] If you wanted me to admit that I was exaggerating, I will. In this sense, I kind of was. This thread isn't full of people against gay pride parades but for Mardi Gras - but society as a whole is full of people against gay pride parades but [i]indifferent[/i] to things like Mardi Gras. If that's how you feel, then yes that's hypocritical. If not, then you're not a hypocrite. I still think it's unjustified to get upset when you have to find out about a gay person's sexuality though. That leads into this: [quote]Okay, but the real question was, in the perfect state of things, how important should a person's sexuality be? Should be as insignificant as say color of your eyes?[/quote] It's significant. Very significant. For most of us it's the #1 thing that determines who we spend a large portion of our lives with. And for gay people it's going to be the thing that causes them the most grief throughout their lives. It just shouldn't be shocking or repulsive to anyone else and nobody should have to be ashamed of it. And that's what gay pride parades are: people saying they're not ashamed of it.

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;44200967]People Leave the gays alone, if they want to be miserable like the rest of us then so be it Gays Leave the people alone, just because you are gay doesn't mean you deserve any extra special treatment[/QUOTE] they aren't looking for special treatment you stupid moron, they want equal treatment. God, some people are beyond stupid

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44201009]Last I checked, gays were the ones getting bullied. When did that change? oh wait it didnt[/QUOTE] Dumb x 2 EddieLTU LurkerOfPeace found the homophobes

[QUOTE=J!NX;44209948]Dumb x 2 EddieLTU LurkerOfPeace found the homophobes[/QUOTE] They're long established homophobes, just too chickenshit to argue why.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44206041]Eat your own ass.[/QUOTE] "Actively" is there for a reason, so eat your own dick

[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;44210578]"Actively" is there for a reason, so eat your own dick[/QUOTE] That's pretty gay, please stop bullying the poor Americans with your penis references.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44208957] Tell me, what's the ideal state of things when it comes to sexuality in your opinion? Equal rights and people caring as much about other people's sexuality as about their... eye color?[/QUOTE] I love it when people post a totally reasonable outcome as an "extreme" example to make someone else's view look dumb. "So, what, you mean to tell me that you're in favor of children NOT being waterboarded? Because that's just fucked."

[QUOTE=Levithan;44209617]I just like to ask what the t stands for.[/QUOTE] what?

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;44209739]You can't say that you aren't of the position that people shouldn't do certain things when in the very same post you say that people shouldn't do certain things.[/QUOTE] You said I'm against gay parades because they are gross or something. I'm not. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;44209739]Your personality is whatever you make of it. It's whatever you're comfortable being. Being gay may not change who you are, but it can be an important part of someone's identity, especially if they've been ostracized because of it.[/QUOTE] I start from the position that no one who isn't directly involved in your sex life should be interested in it or have anything to say in the matter. In other words, nobody should give a fuck with who and what other people do in their bedrooms. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;44209739]Embracing parts of yourself that other people find disgusting and unwelcome is a perfectly natural response. It's how people take control of their own identities and keep hold of their self respect even when society at large is telling them that they're perverted freaks.[/QUOTE] I said I understand the motivation of gay parades. [QUOTE=Zeke129;44209825]If you wanted me to admit that I was exaggerating, I will. In this sense, I kind of was. This thread isn't full of people against gay pride parades but for Mardi Gras - but society as a whole is full of people against gay pride parades but [I]indifferent[/I] to things like Mardi Gras. If that's how you feel, then yes that's hypocritical. If not, then you're not a hypocrite. [/QUOTE] Thank you for starting to be a little more open minded in this conversation. Yes, I do not support fuck festivals happening in public like Mardi Gras. I can be indifferent to large parties and people getting drunk, but not about a festival concentrated on fucking happening on a public beach. [QUOTE=Zeke129;44209825]I still think it's unjustified to get upset when you have to find out about a gay person's sexuality though. That leads into this:[/QUOTE] See that's an assumption you made about me, and it's wrong. I mean what I say. It's not that I'm upset when I find out about someone's sexuality or any detail about his sex life, if it comes from the context or I gave some indication of being interested. Example, at work on friday talking to a male coworker "I'm going fishing this weekend blah blah blah, you? -I'm gonna stay at my cabin with my boyfriend entire weekend, maybe we will fish too. -Cool, so do you fish a lot? etc etc". See it's natural. I wouldn't give a slightest fuck even though I haven't asked about his sexuality it came from context. On the other hand if someone on monday could not shut up about how his sexual advances during the weekend when I didn't ask about it, I would get upset regardless if the guy was fucking girls or guys. [QUOTE=Zeke129;44209825]IIt's significant. Very significant. For most of us it's the #1 thing that determines who we spend a large portion of our lives with. [/QUOTE] Yeah, sure it is the #1 factor when it comes to looking for significant other. But that's pretty much the only thing relevant to sexuality. You cannot learn anything else than what gender his partner is going to be when you find out their sexuality. And nobody should be inquisitive about it or have anything to say on the matter. [QUOTE=Zeke129;44209825]And for gay people it's going to be the thing that causes them the most grief throughout their lives. [/QUOTE] It's not the fact that they are gay that causes them grief it's people giving a fuck with who and what you're doing in your bedroom. I get what you were trying to say, but that came out wrong. [QUOTE=Zeke129;44209825]It just shouldn't be shocking or repulsive to anyone else and nobody should have to be ashamed of it.[/QUOTE] In other words nobody should give a shit. It should be as relevant as eye color. [QUOTE=Zeke129;44209825]And that's what gay pride parades are: people saying they're not ashamed of it.[/QUOTE] Like I said, I understand the motivation and the argument I am making doesn't really apply to the parades. [QUOTE=NuclearJesus;44211219]I love it when people post a totally reasonable outcome as an "extreme" example to make someone else's view look dumb. "So, what, you mean to tell me that you're in favor of children NOT being waterboarded? Because that's just fucked."[/QUOTE] I have no idea what are you trying to say here. What's the extreme example I made?

I think the real tragedy here is how you're all treating a mentally disabled person for expressing herself. Shame on all of you!

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44207530]Okay this is just deluded persecution complex to the max. We already had the Mardi Gras discussion and [b]this thread was full of people saying how great it was..[/b][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zeke129;44207666]The guy who didn't like Mardi Gras was the guy who admitted that [i]every[/i] celebration in his country results in rampant drunkenness. It's either hypocrisy or he wasn't sincere about disliking it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Dark RaveN;44205596]Nice try, I never drink and go cause a rucus in public, [b]and I especially hate when people "accidentaly" fall on me while having a stench of vodka at their face. [/b][/QUOTE] If you are trolling, you trolled really fat and I congratulate you But it looks like you seriously don't read our entire messages, seeing those heavily contradict eachother. So pretty much discussion with you here is irrelevant from now on.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;44208957]Yes first you've made a nice little stereotyping and then used those (made up) people as proof. Those posts are one after another. And by saying that you assume it about me just proves my point.[/QUOTE] stop stereotyping and using made up things as proof now let's talk about how everyone jumps on anyone who is uncomfortable with totally prevalent gay bdsm parades and attacks them as being homophobic

[QUOTE=Last or First;44213318]stop stereotyping and using made up things as proof now let's talk about how everyone jumps on anyone who is uncomfortable with totally prevalent gay bdsm parades and attacks them as being homophobic[/QUOTE] If you're trying to call me out on being a hypocrite for telling other people not to stereotype but I'm stereotyping myself you failed the zinger. Because like the last guy who wanted to make a zing, you didn't read what I said. I never said that everyone does it. I said there are people who do it, and then used certain people from this thread as proof that it happens. How's that stereotyping exactly?

[QUOTE=Last or First;44213318] now let's talk about how everyone jumps on anyone who is uncomfortable with totally prevalent gay bdsm parades and attacks them as being homophobic[/QUOTE] I'm gay and I think pride parades are over the top and honestly, to me, a bit unsettling and embarrassing in some regards. Do I want people to stop doing it? No.