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[QUOTE=DOG-GY;33444546]so you're suggesting that it's futile to point out that something someone says can easily come off the wrong way? would that be the same for other types of stereotyping? I can't really agree with you.[/QUOTE] no, im saying that's either either unnecessary or pointless if someone has had general contact with the human world, they probably know how to talk with their friends and how to talk around people who might be offended, unless they don't care about offending people in the first place and if someone is incapable of understanding if something can be construed as offensive or not, they probably have aspergers and you would have better luck playing tennis with a brick wall see, the reason that so many people say things that can easily be construed as offensive on the internet is because that's probably how they talk normally and they don't care about offending people because it's the internet. so what I'm saying is is that the people you're talking to either don't care, already know, or are incapable of being helped without serious personal guidance in real life

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;33443362]This is every thread of this sort on FP ever: "I walk up to semi-provocatively dressed girl after leering at her for the better part of 5 minutes, and stutter as my face goes red "h-h-hi my n-name is <x>, can I take you out sometime?????" and then she says dismissively "sorry I'm not interested" or "sorry, I have a boyfriend".. WOMEN ARE FUCKING WHORES!" Lmfao I love facepunch.[/QUOTE] Lmfao I love how people generalize over a forum consisting of several THOUSAND members, the world doesn't revolve around you.

Don't tell them this, where else am I going to get my stress relief.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33440106]i think you have low self-esteem and that's your fault, not the collective group known as women.[/QUOTE] I'd say it's a bit of column A and a bit of column B. Yes I have self-esteem issues, but I sure as hell aren't going to improve by having someone lie to my face.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;33444520]if someone has had general contact with the human world, they probably know how to talk with their friends and how to talk around people who might be offended[/QUOTE] i dont think this is true in the slightest. ive met mad sexist/racist people irl who are still functioning social beings. a person doesnt have to be a member of the KKK to hold some racist beliefs nor do they have to be a raging misogynist to hold some sexist beliefs. the entire point of these discussions that break out here so often isn't about extreme sexists, but the few prejudiced beliefs held by people who are, otherwise, fairly unprejudiced

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;33443362]This is every thread of this sort on FP ever: "I walk up to semi-provocatively dressed girl after leering at her for the better part of 5 minutes, and stutter as my face goes red "h-h-hi my n-name is <x>, can I take you out sometime?????" and then she says dismissively "sorry I'm not interested" or "sorry, I have a boyfriend".. WOMEN ARE FUCKING WHORES!" Lmfao I love facepunch.[/QUOTE] No, I'd say that Facepunch is more of that shy guy that hopes that maybe some day someone would like them for who they are. Now they have realized this day will never come, and they feel mad because everyone is making fun of them for not being able to change who they are. These opinions didn't form over night, they were formed over many years of being rejected and being told that you are the thing that's wrong with your life. Now these people are unable to trust other people, they are shown mockery rather than sympathy, and they are never given any other help than being told "change who you are, because this is your own fault".

uhh so you're genuinely arguing that "it's not their fault that they're sexist"?

So. Where's that picture in the string bikini.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;33463129]uhh so you're genuinely arguing that "it's not their fault that they're sexist"?[/QUOTE] No, I'm arguing that it's not just all black and white. You aren't a bad person just because, something happened to you that made you the person you are. So although it's not nice to be sexist, it's not nice to hate someone for being sexist. People with issues need help, not scorn. My post was more directed at people with low self-esteem though, with everyone always acting more cruel than helpful about it.

It's pretty nice and justified to hate a sexist person, at least in my honest opinion. I don't like racists either.

[QUOTE=Aerkhan;33463171]So. Where's that picture in the string bikini.[/QUOTE] Came here expecting pics. Was disappointed.

[QUOTE=Max of S2D;33441891]Oh wow You've gotta be kidding me Both sexes don’t realize how much they have in common, because people just talk about the opposite one in terms of tropes and stereotypes, and ignore situations that don’t fit their preconceptions. And people don’t talk about their own feelings and experiences unless there is already an existing framework of stereotypes to validate it. (and most of those are brought to you by ad-funded television... which is exactly what you're using as a source) (good job)[/QUOTE] Actually I find that women do often fit that stereo type and talk behind each others backs more than I would have thought possible. (I should mention that I'm still in highschool so all the girls I'm talking about are 16 - 17.) Just from hanging out with some girls you'll listen to them bitching out their class mates and friends about being a slut or "Oh she totally wore those shorts today because she wanted attention." Not all girls are like this but I think a majority enjoy talking shit about people they know.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;33463455]i dont let my girlfriend do anything [sp]beaus i no girlfrne![/sp][/QUOTE] high five brah, no girlfriends unite!!!

[QUOTE=Cl0cK;33463482]Facepunch unite!!![/QUOTE] Fixed problem with redundancy

Isn't this sort of natural? The male with the best mate always wins?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;33465594]Isn't this sort of natural? The male with the best mate always wins?[/QUOTE] "natural" does not equal "the way it ought to be"

[QUOTE=Whitebowl;33463427]Actually I find that women do often fit that stereo type and talk behind each others backs more than I would have thought possible. (I should mention that I'm still in highschool so all the girls I'm talking about are 16 - 17.) Just from hanging out with some girls you'll listen to them bitching out their class mates and friends about being a slut or "Oh she totally wore those shorts today because she wanted attention." Not all girls are like this but I think a majority enjoy talking shit about people they know.[/QUOTE] everyone has flaws. i just find it dumb for people to start criticizing others (people who they know absolutely nothing about except shallow impressions) and pretend they are so angelic and smart and never do anything shallow. just so you know, some women have exactly the same perception of men as you do. so either all men and all women fit this one stereotype or it's all bullshit. i'm inclined to believe the latter.

[QUOTE=Whitebowl;33463427]Actually I find that women do often fit that stereo type and talk behind each others backs more than I would have thought possible. (I should mention that I'm still in highschool so all the girls I'm talking about are 16 - 17.) Just from hanging out with some girls you'll listen to them bitching out their class mates and friends about being a slut or "Oh she totally wore those shorts today because she wanted attention." Not all girls are like this but I think a majority enjoy talking shit about people they know.[/QUOTE] Actually yea, girls do like to gossip. You and I don't understand because we aren't girls. Something about talking about other people is stimulating to most girls in the same way that rationalizing and solving logical problems is stimulating to most guys. Genders behave differently than eachother. Just because we don't understand why the opposite gender acts in a certain way doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means we don't understand it.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;33430712]Dragging a girl into your basement isn't "trying to date them". For real, though. Who the fuck screams at someone trying to date them? I've never been screamed at. In fact, if the girl isn't interested, she is generally polite enough to let you down in the easiest way possible.[/QUOTE] I have found that girls are usually not mean enough. Rather they just be like "not interested" than tiptoe around things.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33428653]Uh, it depends what you mean by "true". Because if you think that it just across the board happens, you're generalizing to an insane degree.[/QUOTE] But no one here said it was across the board. The real problem is thisispain presumes we do, like that kid in class who thinks he knows "all about" a teacher or student based off of some small observations, and then is humiliated when it turns out he was completely wrong. Just because you see hints of a certain attitude, doesn't mean we are all radical about it, nor do we think it's infallible (For example, no one here thinks that every single young woman is gossipy or dramatic). [editline]28th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;33440106]yeah it's not true across the board. it speaks to facepunch's understanding of the opposite sex when they take their understanding from internet memes and facepunch posts[/QUOTE] They don't draw their understanding of the opposite sex from that, they just don't want to use antecedal evidence since it wouldn't apply to us since we don't know his experiences. He uses the internet memes, facepunch posts, and tv as an example because [B]we are familiar with it[/B]. Dammit thisispain you [I]know[/I] this, why do you keep playing dumb in every thread? Is this some elaborate experiment for you to enjoy? [editline]28th November 2011[/editline] If anyone finds a flaw in this post, please address it in a response. I will be happy to respond to it.

[QUOTE=Profanwolf;33462188]Lmfao I love how people generalize over a forum consisting of several THOUSAND members, the world doesn't revolve around you.[/QUOTE] Are you a retard? (spoilers: yes) Of course not every member of FP is a bumbling wreck in social situations, just like not literally every thread is what I said it is. :downs: Maybe stop taking everything literally or maybe stop being sensitive when someone makes a joke about your insecurities???

[QUOTE=The Baconator;33476926] They don't draw their understanding of the opposite sex from that, they just don't want to use antecedal evidence since it wouldn't apply to us since we don't know his experiences. He uses the internet memes, facepunch posts, and tv as an example because [B]we are familiar with it[/B].[/QUOTE] incorrect. we know that people get their beliefs from anecdotes and personal experiences first, then find stuff outside of that to support it. it's basic cognitive bias. internet memes are rooted in memetics not in facts, facepunch posts are totally wrong, and TV is made by people who want to sell you something. sexism sells pretty well anyway. [QUOTE=The Baconator;33476926]Dammit thisispain you [I]know[/I] this, why do you keep playing dumb in every thread? Is this some elaborate experiment for you to enjoy?[/QUOTE] if i disagree i must be playing dumb. maybe i really am dumb because i don't see these self-evident truths that you apparently see. research be damned.

[QUOTE=BldrGyMnGy;33428141]There's a fine line between attractive amount of chest and "bitch stop showing off".[/QUOTE] Leave the "clothing police" shit in Saudi Arabia. That shit doesn't belong in the Western world. [QUOTE=Megafanx13;33428653]Uh, it depends what you mean by "true". Because if you think that it just across the board happens, you're generalizing to an insane degree.[/QUOTE] Actually that is what this study is about: the catty response that most women present to sexual competition. It isn't a stereotype when that is literally the exact problem. I heard about this study from some friends in the social sciences at U of O. Along with another study that was done showing most of the problems women face in the workplace come from other women, this shows that women are a significant threat to each other in every environment, from school to the workplace. This is important information because teachers and social workers are going to want to kill this attitude asap.

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;33477897]Are you a retard? (spoilers: yes) Of course not every member of FP is a bumbling wreck in social situations, just like not literally every thread is what I said it is. :downs: Maybe stop taking everything literally or maybe stop being sensitive when someone makes a joke about your insecurities???[/QUOTE] If you don't want to be taken literally, don't say it that way. Simple as that.

[QUOTE=Profanwolf;33487699]If you don't want to be taken literally, don't say it that way. Simple as that.[/QUOTE] I'll be sure to remember this in the future, because obviously someone who hasn't done basic reading comprehension might take my post very seriously, and his feelings will be hurt. I wouldn't want that. After all, I've evidently seen every thread that's ever been made on FP, and have come to the dire conclusion that every member of FP is actually a socially retard sperg who has trouble engaging in basic human conversation with members of the opposite sex! Here's something to take literally: you are retarded if you read that post as a serious statement.

maybe you should relax a bit???

This thread just got super serious.

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;33488074]I'll be sure to remember this in the future, because obviously someone who hasn't done basic reading comprehension might take my post very seriously, and his feelings will be hurt. I wouldn't want that. After all, I've evidently seen every thread that's ever been made on FP, and have come to the dire conclusion that every member of FP is actually a socially retard sperg who has trouble engaging in basic human conversation with members of the opposite sex! Here's something to take literally: you are retarded if you read that post as a serious statement.[/QUOTE] Jeez get that stick out of your arse already.