EPA to be no longer allowed to get advice from scientists - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mudkipslol;46551058]He'll die of old age before being voted out. And assholes like him seem to live exceptionally long.[/QUOTE] He's probably been transplated into a cybernetic body that runs purely on money. [editline]22nd November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46551301]Hahaha, first order of business after the election is screwing the EPA and approving an oil pipeline. They're not even camouflaging their agenda behind "Jobs jobs jobs" anymore.[/QUOTE] But when the world gets hotter, we're going to need more air conditioners, more electrical distribution, more power plants... Think of all the JOBS!

Wanna know the best part about all this? Literally no one from the Oil Lobbies want this because they're also funding and getting into Renewable energy sources. It is literally just old dumb fuck congressmen doing this.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;46551366]Wow, that sounds nice, lets just ignore the fact that every single study done by and paid for entirely by oil companies WILL be fudged to get the result they want.[/QUOTE] Apparently ad hominems are perfectly fine when it's the [I]evil[/I] oil companies. The bill very explicitly goes out of it's way to ensure every financial connection is publicly disclosed.

I saw the Simpsons movie recently and it's starting to seem prophetic at this point.

[QUOTE=sgman91;46551669]Apparently ad hominems are perfectly fine when it's the [I]evil[/I] oil companies. The bill very explicitly goes out of it's way to ensure every financial connection is publicly disclosed.[/QUOTE] Publicly disclosed financial connections never stopped politicians from taking bribes, why should it stop these guys?

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;46551563]He's probably been transplated into a cybernetic body that runs purely on money.[/QUOTE] Somehow reminds me of this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjO1bMHbDpY[/media] 2:25 I am really getting worried about just how bad 'merica is getting (never mind the rest of the world)....

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;46551721]Publicly disclosed financial connections never stopped politicians from taking bribes, why should it stop these guys?[/QUOTE] That's an inherent risk when you give a governmental body of non-elected officers real power over things. The fact that you think "bribing" (or any other kind of kickback) only exists as a function of big business is woefully ignorant. Who do you think funds the research of many of these scientists? One big contributor would probably be the grants given by the politicians who feel strongly about doing lots of environmental controls... the same politicians who would chose the administrator who would chose those scientists. The key is transparency and disclosure. If all connections and data are public, like this bill is attempting to do, then it's possible to judge their work on it's face.

-snipos-

Man, I don't know why or how the majority of the US population votes these types of people into congress. Then again, Canadians voted for a conservative government the past 8 years.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46550803]Its pretty amazing around half of the voting american population votes these corrupt morons in every election.[/QUOTE] Most are running unopposed

Son of a bitch.

Uh, guys, this bill just passed the House. It hasn't even been to the senate yet - [U]it's not law[/U]. It's pretty unlikely that the senate will pass it, but we'll see once the republican-controlled senate starts rolling.

Wait. So only the House of Representatives passed the bill, so it isn't law yet. This can still be stopped, right? [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] Totally missed the second page.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46550803]Its pretty amazing around half of the voting american population votes these corrupt morons in every election.[/QUOTE] It's either the polished turd, or the shiny turd over here, they're the same thing, but in the end you have to pick one.

Oh shit oh no. Please senate don't be dumb.

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;46552915]Oh shit oh no. Please senate don't be dumb.[/QUOTE] This will be vetoed.

Well lets see if Obama ends up getting as many vetoes to his name as Bush did with this current senate.

[QUOTE=Snowmew;46551018]They [i]re-elected[/i] this shitcorn fuck? Almost 30 years of this douchetube. Can we please get him out of office?[/QUOTE] How in the flying fuck did that rat bastard get re-elected after the backlash against SOPA/PIPA? Man, fuck American Politics.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;46550803]Its pretty amazing around half of the voting american population votes these corrupt morons in every election.[/QUOTE] Literally nobody votes. You hear the same thing from every 'educated' college student: they don't like either candidate, so they refuse to vote altogether. They refute both 'choosing the lesser evil' as well as every other facet to voting. The only people who vote outside of presidential elections are old people and extremists. The problem isn't the politicians, it's the complacent population we have. [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] Oh, the politician doesn't give a shit about college kids you say? Gee, I wonder why. Even if he came out trying to help out your loans you still wouldn't take a moment to vote for him. He even knows he can get away with saying that he doesn't care about you because he knows you won't even vote against him in response.

Lamar Smith What a fucking surprise

[QUOTE=da space core;46550922]The bill basically prevents the EPA from using any of their science and research and the "twisting of science" isnt twisted at all, its all true. it just makes it look bad for the oil companies, so the republican party wants to remove the EPA[/QUOTE] Let's all hold our breath and continue to count our money...

[QUOTE=sgman91;46551302]It seems to me that instead of judging people based on who they work for people should be judged based on the quality of their work.[/QUOTE] Agreed. We shouldn't be establishing quotas that require a certain amount of board members work for industries affecting climate change. That's why this law is bad. I'm glad to see we have reached common ground. [QUOTE=sgman91;46551669]Apparently ad hominems are perfectly fine when it's the evil oil companies. The bill very explicitly goes out of it's way to ensure every financial connection is publicly disclosed.[/QUOTE] That's not an ad hominem and we know oil companies have thrown a lot of money at the climate change "debate" to prevent policy from being made. [editline]23rd November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;46553916]Literally nobody votes. You hear the same thing from every 'educated' college student: they don't like either candidate, so they refuse to vote altogether. They refute both 'choosing the lesser evil' as well as every other facet to voting. [/QUOTE] Raidyr's EZ Voting Guide for Dummies If they don't believe in climate change or are actively fighting against attempts to rein it in, get them the fuck out of whatever public office they are occupying. So basically never vote Republican is what I'm saying.