[QUOTE=bravehat;28169545]Not really, adapt the body to be slightly larger so it has a higher volume in the torso cavity, add in a few organs that generate stem cells and direct them to the places they are required to repair organs and handle intracellular junk, find a mechanism to stop or at least control telomere shortening, add metals and shit to areas that break down rapidly through wear and tear, adapt muscles with fibre weave to keep them strong.
I'll add other shit as I go.[/QUOTE]
You could reweave your bones presumably and have bones of almost unbreakable material.
Somehow I don't view those as a problem.
Okay maybe the first is a problem, it's a full time job keeping the black hole that resides in my digestive tract sated.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;28169812]Sounds interesting, however mechanics I feel would be much more efficient, especially if you eliminate the need to eat, drink and breath.[/QUOTE]
If the "singularity" goes down as I'm hoping it will, there will be so many ways to be kept alive for almost forever that we'll see a lot of unique and truly expressive ways to survive.
The closest comparison I can draw are the elves in Eragon/eldest/Inheritence books. They're practically immortal and basically just spend time modifying their minds, bodies, or the world around them through unique self expression.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28169882]You could reweave your bones presumably and have bones of almost unbreakable material.[/QUOTE]
Carbon nanotube epoxy resin with virus built batteries weaved into it in filament form to maximise surface area and capacitance.
Awww yeaaahhhhh :smugdog:
[QUOTE=Rubs10;28155652]Have you been dead before???[/QUOTE]
Well I suppose the trillions of years before i was born amount to the same thing.
[QUOTE=sltungle;28167444]This thread has made me appreciate my squishy, soft organic body so much more than I did the other day. I love my body now.
Also turning us into immortal machines IS not an acceptable trade off for the loss of breasts if you ask me. I like squishy, organic sex and I like playing with breasts. Fuck you, you're not taking that from me![/QUOTE]
Well you could always hook up to a computer or use that chip in your brain to play with as many virtual breasts as you want, and it's going to feel completely real.
[editline]20th February 2011[/editline]
Plus you won't have to take a shower after your better-than-real, virtual, squishy, organic sex.
[QUOTE=reywilnc;28134261][img_thumb]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090527210812/half-life/en/images/thumb/f/f5/Overwatch_Soldier_mp7.jpg/184px-Overwatch_Soldier_mp7.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
aw man sick
we can become the combine
Living forever will suck. Although death may be a scary thought, you will understand that it's your time to go when you are an old man who has to wear diapers.
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;28182408]Living forever will suck. Although death may be a scary thought, you will understand that it's your time to go when you are an old man who has to wear diapers.[/QUOTE]
will you people stop posting this shit please
do you really think that we wouldn't have solved these problems by the time we've developed fucking [I]immortality[/I]
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;28134278]Jesus Christ. Every cell in your body is getting replaced within a week.
Consciousness is not in the matter. Not even in the matter of the brain. Especially not in the cells.
Consciousness is not in matter.
Consciousness is not in matter, for the love of fuck: Consciousness is the result of the processing of information from one neuron to the other. It is not or in the neurons themselves: It is in the events, not in what carries them.
Even if you uploaded your consciousness to a Silicon/nanomechanical/whatever substrate, it WOULD be you. The matter would be different but the 'flow' if you want to use New Agey terms, would still be the same.[/QUOTE]
Yes but is It a replica of my consciousness or is it [B]Me[/B]?, the one consciousness occupying this body?. Will I have direct control over it as I do with my physical body now?, or would it be essentially a digital clone that resembles Me in every way but the physical me (as I am, or as I was, writing this) still tied to this body?. or would they combine giving me both perspectives?.
To put it simply, How's this gonna work?. Am I going to live forever?, or is a copy of me going to live forever?
this is the question I and many people are wondering.
Now all we need is an artificial nervous system. so I can atleast feel things when I touch them.
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;28182408]Living forever will suck. Although death may be a scary thought, you will understand that it's your time to go when you are an old man who has to wear diapers.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever noticed how most old people don't just kill themselves, and instead try to carry on living for as long as they can?
[QUOTE=blazingfly;28134263]upload my brain to a computer.
[/QUOTE]
Hope you enjoy dying
[editline]21st February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;28134278]Jesus Christ. Every cell in your body is getting replaced within a week.
Consciousness is not in the matter. Not even in the matter of the brain. Especially not in the cells.
Consciousness is not in matter.
Consciousness is not in matter, for the love of fuck: Consciousness is the result of the processing of information from one neuron to the other. It is not or in the neurons themselves: It is in the events, not in what carries them.
Even if you uploaded your consciousness to a Silicon/nanomechanical/whatever substrate, it WOULD be you. The matter would be different but the 'flow' if you want to use New Agey terms, would still be the same.[/QUOTE]
It would be a copy of you unless it was streamed to the new platform.
I'm excited to see the feats, good or bad, that will happen by the time I'm 70 (2060) .
[QUOTE=Swilly;28139970]I prefer not to live past 65...no thanks.[/QUOTE]
I can't wait to see you at the age of 65. We'll see what you'll say then.
What I thought of was a book where everyone had to go to this "regeneration" thing or something every so often. There were no teenagers (all the reproductional shit got sterilized), but everyone lived forever.
Then around Chapter 7 it turned into a shitty romance novel and I gave the book back to the library.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;28133251]The human mind is horribly limited. If they can improve upon it, then its all good.[/QUOTE]
lol.
LOL!
ur funny man. Horribly limited, do you know how developed the human mind has the potential to be? so what if it isn't perfection. If you look at a rats brain or even a chimpanzee's brain and then look at a human brain, we are above all other animals by at least a hundred miles in terms of development, and most of that happened in the past 2 million years, and some scientists still think our capacity is growing.
I mean if people eat the right foods and with the internet, a huge source of information being given to our generation like nothing any generation has had before I think we will start to see the human mind develop at a very fast pace without the direct help of a computer, only the indirect help. We don't need to tie our brain to a machine, we don't even know the full potential of the human mind yet, what if something goes wrong? Besides our current machines can't work anywhere near the level of the human mind, they can only poorly mimic. If you ate a lot of fish and anything with omega 3, have a healthy diet (and maybe occasionally snort stem cells) and WORKED on getting smarter, you could probably make your brain work better than if you just plugged it into a machine.
I mean sure at some point machines will be able to PROCESS more information than the human brain, but that point is a long ways away and there are so many more things the human brain can do that a machine can due in part to us STILL NOT KNOWING COMPLETELY HOW THE HUMAN BRAIN WORKS.
[editline]21st February 2011[/editline]
And I'm not even gonna bother talking about how horrible living forever would be as a part machine seeing how much of face punch is full of teenagers scared of something a hundred years off and who don't do much with their current lives anyways.
[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;28193032]lol.
LOL!
ur funny man. Horribly limited, do you know how developed the human mind has the potential to be? so what if it isn't perfection. If you look at a rats brain or even a chimpanzee's brain and then look at a human brain, we are above all other animals by at least a hundred miles in terms of development, and most of that happened in the past 2 million years, and some scientists still think our capacity is growing.
I mean if people eat the right foods and with the internet, a huge source of information being given to our generation like nothing any generation has had before I think we will start to see the human mind develop at a very fast pace without the direct help of a computer, only the indirect help. We don't need to tie our brain to a machine, we don't even know the full potential of the human mind yet, what if something goes wrong? Besides our current machines can't work anywhere near the level of the human mind, they can only poorly mimic. If you ate a lot of fish and anything with omega 3, have a healthy diet (and maybe occasionally snort stem cells) and WORKED on getting smarter, you could probably make your brain work better than if you just plugged it into a machine.
I mean sure at some point machines will be able to PROCESS more information than the human brain, but that point is a long ways away and there are so many more things the human brain can do that a machine can due in part to us STILL NOT KNOWING COMPLETELY HOW THE HUMAN BRAIN WORKS.
[editline]21st February 2011[/editline]
And I'm not even gonna bother talking about how horrible living forever would be as a part machine seeing how much of face punch is full of teenagers scared of something a hundred years off and who don't do much with their current lives anyways.[/QUOTE]
Nice time machine, i'm sure you know more about life extension and all that stuff than anyone else here.
OH WAIT LOL!
The human mind can't grasp exponential numbers, spaces, most of the shit at the fringe of our sciences, our brains just simply aren't hard wired to be able to do that shit. So much for being so powerful eh? Yeah, proper diet isn't going to suddenly make the human race "evolve".
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28193235]Nice time machine, i'm sure you know more about life extension and all that stuff than anyone else here.
OH WAIT LOL!
The human mind can't grasp exponential numbers, spaces, most of the shit at the fringe of our sciences, our brains just simply aren't hard wired to be able to do that shit. So much for being so powerful eh? Yeah, proper diet isn't going to suddenly make the human race "evolve".[/QUOTE]
[citation needed]
[editline]21st February 2011[/editline]
I don't know about some people but I can mostly grasp the concepts and implications of what some of the things at the fringes of science are pointing toward, I can even visualize some of them. Maybe some people can't, doesn't mean everyone can't.
[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;28193894][citation needed][/QUOTE]
You really need me to cite that we can't wrap our heads around what a trillion really means or what exponentially increasing numbers equate to? That we don't get what a hundred million miles is? That we don't get the amount of stars in existence?
REALLY?
We didn't evolve with needing any of those abilities, we didn't ever need them until the last 100 years. Why do you think our brains can do a task they simply aren't hardwired to do? Because we "can eat right" and get to that point? For fucking real man?
[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;28193032]lol.
LOL!
ur funny man. Horribly limited, do you know how developed the human mind has the potential to be? so what if it isn't perfection. If you look at a rats brain or even a chimpanzee's brain and then look at a human brain, we are above all other animals by at least a hundred miles in terms of development, and most of that happened in the past 2 million years, and some scientists still think our capacity is growing.
I mean if people eat the right foods and with the internet, a huge source of information being given to our generation like nothing any generation has had before I think we will start to see the human mind develop at a very fast pace without the direct help of a computer, only the indirect help. We don't need to tie our brain to a machine, we don't even know the full potential of the human mind yet, what if something goes wrong? Besides our current machines can't work anywhere near the level of the human mind, they can only poorly mimic. If you ate a lot of fish and anything with omega 3, have a healthy diet (and maybe occasionally snort stem cells) and WORKED on getting smarter, you could probably make your brain work better than if you just plugged it into a machine.
I mean sure at some point machines will be able to PROCESS more information than the human brain, but that point is a long ways away and there are so many more things the human brain can do that a machine can due in part to us STILL NOT KNOWING COMPLETELY HOW THE HUMAN BRAIN WORKS.
[editline]21st February 2011[/editline]
And I'm not even gonna bother talking about how horrible living forever would be as a part machine seeing how much of face punch is full of teenagers scared of something a hundred years off and who don't do much with their current lives anyways.[/QUOTE]
You do know some people just can't do certain things, no matter how much fish you force down them. For instance I find it nearly impossible to do anything maths related as not only do I usually forget most of it only days after learning it, but cannot adapt equations to be used in reverse orders etc. Personally I see transhumanism as a possible way of promoting true human equality, as in they are equal in every way.
I'm going to be very upset if my fiancee doesn't agree to this. I'll be so lonely without her. :(
Actually, I just realized that online dating could become more direct and less dangerous.
[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;28193894]
I don't know about some people but I can mostly grasp the concepts and implications of what some of the things at the fringes of science are pointing toward, I can even visualize some of them. Maybe some people can't, doesn't mean everyone can't.[/QUOTE]
Uhm, that's not the discussion
The human brain is literally incapable of grapsing exponential numbers at a basic level. It's not hardwired to do so at all. It's not meant to. Anyone that can is in the few percentage of people that are geniuses, Einstein, Hawking, etc. Some concepts don't work with us naturally. Why you seem to put yourself in a quality above the rest of us is kind of funny.
-snip-
Oh fuck 7000 posts and this was it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28193235]The human mind can't grasp exponential numbers[/QUOTE]
e^x
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