[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;44618813]but I like to think of that as the darwin effect.[/QUOTE]
I find people like you extremely distasteful.
[QUOTE=Paramud;44619194]I find people like you extremely distasteful.[/QUOTE]
But it's true, is it not? If you're retarded enough to do retarded things, you should have to deal with the consequences, even if those consequences are being killed because you were a massive retard.
Sorry, I just take issue with finding humor in people dying from mistakes.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;44619207]But it's true, is it not? If you're retarded enough to do retarded things, you should have to deal with the consequences, even if those consequences are being killed because you were a massive retard.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha man those adventurous teenagers need to die for being so retarded!!!
lol so can you then? obviously you're malfunctioning in the way of common empathy which is a basic human trait
even rats have shown empathy, so maybe it'd be a bad thing for your malfunctioning genes to enter the gene pool
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44619135]Jack Thompson has a Masters Degree and is a lawyer that's been in supreme court battles, but he's still a babbling nut job.
So if it's not a new site why is it in this section, isn't this for news?[/QUOTE]
that's such a ridiculous argument
first of all, you're essentially saying that all credentials are inherently meaningless. By that logic, literally no one is allowed to speak authoritatively on anything ever, not even the "legit" news sources you're talking about
secondly, Jack Thompson had a degree in LAWYERING, not PSYCHOLOGY. He was not qualified to make the claims that he did in the first place; you're comparing apples and oranges.
Lastly, it's not a news site, but it's relevant to a story that was recently in the news. This is what you would call a "primary source" if you knew what you were talking about.
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[QUOTE=Bazsil;44619284]Hahaha man those adventurous teenagers need to die for being so retarded!!!
lol so can you then? obviously you're malfunctioning in the way of common empathy which is a basic human trait
even rats have shown empathy, so maybe it'd be a bad thing for your malfunctioning genes to enter the gene pool[/QUOTE]
I never said they should die, I just said they shouldn't be considered the victim for doing stupid things and getting hurt.
[QUOTE=avincent;44618354]It doesn't cause brain damage it kills inhibition in some people when abused.. Like all mind altering substances[/QUOTE]
What a ridiculous blanket statement.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;44619207]But it's true, is it not? If you're retarded enough to do retarded things, you should have to deal with the consequences, even if those consequences are being killed because you were a massive retard.[/QUOTE]
You being called out for your incredibly angsty posts is a great example of this concept. Seriously, have a little empathy for once in your life.
[QUOTE=draugur;44619620]You being called out for your incredibly angsty posts is a great example of this concept. Seriously, have a little empathy for once in your life.[/QUOTE]
hahahaha yeah dumb actions shouldn't have consequences, that would just be mean
You know, people spend their entire lives avoiding risks so they can make it safely to death. I think that's a better way of looking at it.
I mean I wouldn't be surprised if weed had health risks. What doesn't these days? Will that stop me from smoking? Probably not, I do it in moderation and I always have a good time while high so I mean what's wrong with that?
[QUOTE=Wolf532;44618553][quote=FurrehFaux]dude who cares if it causes brain damage, what's the point of living if we can't have fun? A lot of things we eat and do every day causes brain damage. we're all gonna die eventually[/quote]I'd personally enjoy life more with a functioning brain than without one.[/QUOTE]
If I'm given the choice of either:
• Avoid marijuana/drugs/alcohol and any dangerous recreational activities such as skydiving, mountain-climbing, or camping in rural areas, and live to the age of 95 having avoided a ton of potentially rewarding experiences, or:
• Smoke marijuana, drink alcohol, and use drugs responsibly, and do all the fun recreational activities I can while I'm still alive and only live to the age of 65.
I'm going to take the latter.
[quote]“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
― Hunter S. Thompson[/quote]
[editline]22nd April 2014[/editline]
I mean, there's a risk that you could get killed simply by tripping over your doormat and splitting your head open. There's a risk of death any time you get in a car (which is really just a two-ton death machine made of metal and glass). There's a risk of death by brain-eating amoeba when you go swimming. There's a risk of death by going amongst people - who's to say you won't find yourself in the middle of a mass shooting? Smoking a joint every now and then, despite any impact it might have on your health, doesn't seem that appalling to me.
Nice use of Thompson
You're putting your health at risk when you consume fast food. You're putting your health at risk when you opt to sit on your ass and play video games. You'd still be putting your health at risk if you decided to go running instead. You're putting your health at risk when you breathe... airborne viruses and fungi, anyone? I'm looking at you, valley fever.
Point being... what difference does it make if smoking pot is risky? [I]Life[/I] is risky.
[editline]22nd April 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44618796]I thought the link between marijuana and schizophrenia was unproven.[/QUOTE]
I think there's evidence that marijuana can potentially trigger schizophrenia in people that have a family history of the disease, but as I recall any drugs that target the same receptors that marijuana does can do that.
[QUOTE=J!NX;44618805]
I mean, that shit's way more extreme but to some people that's the ONLY way to have fun[/QUOTE]
...and your point is?
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;44618235]dude who cares if it causes brain damage, what's the point of living if we can't have fun? A lot of things we eat and do every day causes brain damage. we're all gonna die eventually[/QUOTE]
My co-worker had to get custody of his two nephews or they would've been taken by the state. Their mother was a meth-head, whore, and all-around druggie. Her last child was born addicted to Oxycontin, and she chose to give up her two children, the oldest of which was 2, rather than go to rehab and get clean so she could at least ATTEMPT to be a decent mother.
But hey she sure is having fun so who am I to judge.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44618864]The actual logic is the same, "who cares if it harms me? I'll die anyway."
Hell, if you're happy to smoke weed because "fuck it everyone dies anyway" but against sniffing lacquer because it was too harmful, I'd question your logic.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think that "actual logic" is the same because you are assuming that the person who is deciding whether or not to use a drug would be ignorant of the difference in harm the each of those substances will cause, or you are assuming that all drugs cause the same harm.
most people who decide to smoke weed probably know to some degree that it's harmful in some way, but from seeing that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people smoke and have smoked it for years and years, they know the harmful effects are minimal compared to something like meth, so when you decide that "you're going to die anyway" and smoke weed, you actually are making a very different choice than someone who thinks the same thing and then smokes meth.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44620823]My co-worker had to get custody of his two nephews or they would've been taken by the state. Their mother was a meth-head, whore, and all-around druggie. Her last child was born addicted to Oxycontin, and she chose to give up her two children, the oldest of which was 2, rather than go to rehab and get clean so she could at least ATTEMPT to be a decent mother.
But hey she sure is having fun so who am I to judge.[/QUOTE]
Once again, take into consideration that this topic is around weed originally, not meth, not oxycotin. We all pretty much realize that the 'we're all gonna die eventually' logic doesn't excuse us to go off and abandon a family and abuse drugs that are significantly addictive and incredibly unhealthy. Once again, cannabis? Really not too healthy for you, it's far from 100 percent safe, but compared to other drugs and other means, it's not nearly as dangerous as it is often espoused to be, and it is absolutely in no way even close to realm of harm that drugs like meth inflict.
[QUOTE=Viva;44620861]Once again, take into consideration that this topic is around weed originally, not meth, not oxycotin. We all pretty much realize that the 'we're all gonna die eventually' logic doesn't excuse us to go off and abandon a family and abuse drugs that are significantly addictive and incredibly unhealthy. Once again, cannabis? Really not too healthy for you, it's far from 100 percent safe, but compared to other drugs and other means, it's not nearly as dangerous as it is often espoused to be, and it is absolutely in no way even close to realm of harm that drugs like meth inflict.[/QUOTE]
Take into consideration his exact words: "Who cares if it causes brain damage?", and goes on to excuse pretty much anything that causes bodily harm by saying "a lot of the things we eat and do every day causes brain damage". I would hate to think that weed would cause someone to do something as stupid as she's done.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44620823]My co-worker had to get custody of his two nephews or they would've been taken by the state. Their mother was a meth-head, whore, and all-around druggie. Her last child was born addicted to Oxycontin, and she chose to give up her two children, the oldest of which was 2, rather than go to rehab and get clean so she could at least ATTEMPT to be a decent mother.
But hey she sure is having fun so who am I to judge.[/QUOTE]
This is a bad example. It is different when you consider risk-taking from a parent's perspective. A parent has to look after not only themselves, but their children as well. It's foolish to take risks when other lives are quite literally dependent on yours.
[QUOTE=Furioso;44620873]This is a bad example. It is different when you consider risk-taking from a parent's perspective. A parent has to look after not only themselves, but their children as well. It's foolish to take risks when other lives are quite literally dependent on yours.[/QUOTE]
His example was just as terrible. He basically says that life is pointless if we can't have fun, so to hell with the consequences of substance usage/abuse, what's it matter so long as you're enjoying yourself?
I smoke, but I have two rules that I make sure to abide by because it IS a mind-altering substance and it affects different people in different ways:
1) NEVER smoke at work/on the job, and
2) NEVER smoke before getting behind the wheel.
My decision to have some fun could just as easily result in me getting a little too personal with 460V 3-phase, or pasting someone on the highway.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44620882]His example was just as terrible. He basically says that life is pointless if we can't have fun, so to hell with the consequences of substance usage/abuse, what's it matter so long as you're enjoying yourself?
I smoke, but I have two rules that I make sure to abide by because it IS a mind-altering substance and it affects different people in different ways:
1) NEVER smoke at work/on the job, and
2) NEVER smoke before getting behind the wheel.
My decision to have some fun could just as easily result in me getting a little too personal with 460V 3-phase, or pasting someone on the highway.[/QUOTE]
I don't think he meant it quite as literally as you're taking it, but I suppose that is just down to interpretation.
If someone is too stupid to realize what they're doing is harming other people, then we should educate them so that they don't choose to do it in the first place. If someone has issues that prevent them from realizing what the consequences are then they should be given proper care. Banning drugs isn't the way to go, making the people know whether or not they should take those drugs is, and if they do take them, then so what? It's their life.
[QUOTE=Doneeh;44619190]It's not true, I one time got so fucked up I dropped my keys.[/QUOTE]
Well, would you still drop the key when sober?
[QUOTE=Furioso;44620906]I don't think he meant it quite as literally as you're taking it, but I suppose that is just down to interpretation.[/QUOTE]
Thing is that I personally don't invest too much into what research with cannabis has to say, mostly because of various interest groups that have something to gain wether it's good or bad for you, on top of its legality making it difficult to research.
Every. Fucking. Week.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44620909]If someone is too stupid to realize what they're doing is harming other people, then we should educate them so that they don't choose to do it in the first place. If someone has issues that prevent them from realizing what the consequences are then they should be given proper care. Banning drugs isn't the way to go, making the people know whether or not they should take those drugs is, and if they do take them, then so what? It's their life.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I never saw the point in simply calling someone who has never been taught something critical to their health "stupid" and just let them go on without being any wiser.
Educating people is important. The only reason we know what we do about healthful activities is because someone taught us rather than just calling us stupid.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44620872]Take into consideration his exact words: "Who cares if it causes brain damage?", and goes on to excuse pretty much anything that causes bodily harm by saying "a lot of the things we eat and do every day causes brain damage". I would hate to think that weed would cause someone to do something as stupid as she's done.[/QUOTE]
take into consider the brain damage he is talking about, the brain damage the original article is talking about.
Quite literally the brain damage that we're talking here is, to put it bluntly, laziness more or less. The brain damage by the way is not brain damage but 'abnormalities'. The two are mutually exclusive.
[QUOTE=Viva;44620969]take into consider the brain damage he is talking about, the brain damage the original article is talking about.
Quite literally the brain damage that we're talking here is, to put it bluntly, laziness more or less. The brain damage by the way is not brain damage but 'abnormalities'. The two are mutually exclusive.[/QUOTE]
It's more the way he worded it, but I'll admit, I took liberty with a VERY literal interpretation of what he said.
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