Anti Social Behavior Laws to be Tightened Further in Police State Britian - Polidicks

what does Russia and the UK have in common? do absolutely fucking nothing and you can get arrested for it! thank god the left are too anti racism and the right is too pro freedoms to ever pass something over here at least for public acts, they seem to think the internet doesn't count though

[QUOTE=Sableye;43078659]what does Russia and the UK have in common? do absolutely fucking nothing and you can get arrested for it! thank god the left are too anti racism and the right is too pro freedoms to ever pass something over here at least for public acts, they seem to think the internet doesn't count though[/QUOTE] You're from a country which imprisons people indefinitely without trial. Has capital punishment and a inflated prison population. I wouldn't speak so quickly if I was you. also next time you talk about how easy it is to get arrested, look at this graph first [URL]http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue40/SchmittZipper40_files/image012.gif[/URL] or if you like comparisons to Russia: [URL]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Prisoner_population_rate_world_2012_map.png/800px-Prisoner_population_rate_world_2012_map.png[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sableye;43078659]what does Russia and the UK have in common? do absolutely fucking nothing and you can get arrested for it! thank god the left are too anti racism and the right is too pro freedoms to ever pass something over here at least for public acts, they seem to think the internet doesn't count though[/QUOTE] This makes you sound retarded as shit bro.

[QUOTE=voltlight;43077427]Well, kids today deffo need some sorting out. I can't tell how good this is though, or if it's shit. I hope they figure out a way though.[/QUOTE] I agree. They should take children from their parents at birth and raise them in camps where they can be educated properly to understand their duty and obligation to the state and its leaders.

[QUOTE=Sableye;43078659]what does Russia and the UK have in common? do absolutely fucking nothing and you can get arrested for it! thank god the left are too anti racism and the right is too pro freedoms to ever pass something over here at least for public acts, they seem to think the internet doesn't count though[/QUOTE] Our government does a lot of dumb shit but you do realize that it's not as bad as this thread is exaggerating, right? And the US's government has done some pretty terrible things as well, as Arfrika noted.

Fuck this shithole of a country.

reminded me of this [MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Q-efau__g[/MEDIA] start at 2:35

[QUOTE=Afrika;43078702]You're from a country which imprisons people indefinitely without trial. Has capital punishment and a inflated prison population. I wouldn't speak so quickly if I was you. also next time you talk about how easy it is to get arrested, look at this graph first [URL]http://www.paecon.net/PAEReview/issue40/SchmittZipper40_files/image012.gif[/URL] or if you like comparisons to Russia: [URL]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Prisoner_population_rate_world_2012_map.png/800px-Prisoner_population_rate_world_2012_map.png[/URL][/QUOTE] I wasnt saying my country was great I was saying this particular brand of legal shenanigans doesn't fly with politicians over here because they either see it as discriminatory or infringing on peoples rights, yes there are a whole bunch of other stupid things cops can do to you here in the u.s. but hooliganism isn't one of them

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;43077454]We already have people whose job it is to get kids to behave they're called parents[/QUOTE] Parents aren't infallible beings. As with any job, people can fail at being a parent. What are you supposed to do when that happens? Let their kids be raised with their failure of a parent only to follow in their footsteps? And when it becomes such a widespread issue, then what?

[QUOTE=Tacosheller;43077410]What the fuck are british politicians humans or reptile brains in big jars that randomly select words in order to make laws?[/QUOTE] Nah, they bought a power-ball machine and assign the numbers and letters to random legal words.

[QUOTE=Sableye;43078940]I wasnt saying my country was great I was saying this particular brand of legal shenanigans doesn't fly with politicians over here because they either see it as discriminatory or infringing on peoples rights, yes there are a whole bunch of other stupid things cops can do to you here in the u.s. but hooliganism isn't one of them[/QUOTE] I ere you tlkin shit like I wouldn't find out m8 but seriously, I just thought it was funny that of all the countries that could complain about the UKs legal system. America isn't one of them, with your track record of appalling human rights and infringements. More of a ~police state~ than the UK would ever be.

[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;43079012]Parents aren't infallible beings. As with any job, people can fail at being a parent. What are you supposed to do when that happens? Let their kids be raised with their failure of a parent only to follow in their footsteps? And when it becomes such a widespread issue, then what?[/QUOTE] My mate lived as an orphan on the street because his parents both died in a drug over-dose and deal gone wrong in the same night when he was 13. He's now going through med school to be a doctor. Why do you state it as if all people with shit parents are going to become shit people? Your parents aren't the only contributing factor to who you grow up to be mate.

[QUOTE=draugur;43079034]My mate lived as an orphan on the street because his parents both died in a drug over-dose and deal gone wrong in the same night when he was 13. He's now going through med school to be a doctor. Why do you state it as if all people with shit parents are going to become shit people? Your parents aren't the only contributing factor to who you grow up to be mate.[/QUOTE] when did anecdotes become acceptable basis for arguments. oh right, never.

To be fair there are some really awful council estates in this country where local residents do genuinely live in fear of some of the anti-social groups and something does need to be done about them. Yes it can be abused but it has good intentions.

[QUOTE=draugur;43079034]My mate lived as an orphan on the street because his parents both died in a drug over-dose and deal gone wrong in the same night when he was 13. He's now going through med school to be a doctor. Why do you state it as if all people with shit parents are going to become shit people? Your parents aren't the only contributing factor to who you grow up to be mate.[/QUOTE] No, but they are a massive factor. This is like denying that there's a problem with poverty in the third world because some people get out and manage to make a life for themselves. For every one success story, there's a thousand ones that end in misery for all involved.

Man, I hope they don't discriminate people with skateboards even more, I can remember getting kicked out my local shopping centre for [I]carrying[/I] my board with me (I knew I couldn't ride it in there). What they really need to do is sort out the shits that go round on scooters, I see some kid get on my bus every day and rides the scooter down the fucking isle yet doesn't even get a second look.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43077706] Stuff like vandalism, playing loud music at night, harassing people, setting fire to wheelie bins. [/QUOTE] Which the rest of the world punishes through more focused laws. Vandalism laws cover setting fire to wheelie bins 'n shit, playing loud music at night is usually dealt with by being told to turn it down and if that doesn't work a ticket for disturbing the peace, harassing people is...well...harassment...it works so much better than easily abused ASBO bullshit. [editline]5th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=draugur;43079034]My mate lived as an orphan on the street because his parents both died in a drug over-dose and deal gone wrong in the same night when he was 13. He's now going through med school to be a doctor. Why do you state it as if all people with shit parents are going to become shit people? Your parents aren't the only contributing factor to who you grow up to be mate.[/QUOTE] That's great for your mate, but he was a rare one. Most people who grow up under shit parents end up being shit parents themselves. it's all they know. For every one copy of your mate there's thousands who just repeat the cycle.

Not being funny, but even some kids who are raised in a nice safe, mentally sound environment grow up to be arseholes, they are normally called politicians I think.

[QUOTE=Afrika;43079030]I ere you tlkin shit like I wouldn't find out m8 but seriously, I just thought it was funny that of all the countries that could complain about the UKs legal system. America isn't one of them, with your track record of appalling human rights and infringements. More of a ~police state~ than the UK would ever be.[/QUOTE] Many US users are incredibly displeased with the government's track record, hence their condemnation towards the surveillience ordeal. It doesn't mean that they have to praise these absurd laws as well.

Hey all there's a difference between anti-social behavior and not wanting to be around people, the former being a type of person who does shit that's generally considered "being a menace to society". Read up on the differences for your knowledge please.

Such loose wording seems to open the law up for gross interpretations (and misinterpretations), and seems to grant more power in the wrong ways. Yes, some people do things that are genuinely disruptive, but if you're going to sort it out, ACTUALLY DO YOUR JOB RIGHT and don't push out laws that are looser than Margaret Thatcher on a jet engine. Even looser now the old witch is dead.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;43090019]Hey all there's a difference between anti-social behavior and not wanting to be around people, the former being a type of person who does shit that's generally considered "being a menace to society". Read up on the differences for your knowledge please.[/QUOTE] I think the word you're looking for is asocial.

[QUOTE] stifle legitimate demonstrations and criminalise youngsters[/QUOTE] Working as intended.

Personally hoping my graduate job will let me move to the Netherlands, Denmark or Canada. Fuck this country. The current generation of politicians are so completely out of touch and unqualified to run this country. Some radical change is going to have to happen to convince me not to leave once I have the cash. Labour and Conservatives are basically the same, they just have different groups of people handing them massive lumps of money to bend the legislation their way behind the scenes (Unions and business moguls). And the Lib Dem's won't have a shot at power for another 10-20 years thanks to Clegg whoring his party out to Cameron.

[QUOTE=NorthernFall;43090482]Personally hoping my graduate job will let me move to the Netherlands, Denmark or Canada. Fuck this country. The current generation of politicians are so completely out of touch and unqualified to run this country. Some radical change is going to have to happen to convince me not to leave once I have the cash. Labour and Conservatives are basically the same, they just have different groups of people handing them massive lumps of money to bend the legislation their way behind the scenes (Unions and business moguls). And the Lib Dem's won't have a shot at power for another 10-20 years thanks to Clegg whoring his party out to Cameron.[/QUOTE] The situation in the Netherlands isn't that much better at the moment, sorry. It's not really that politicians are out of touch with the people here, but more that the people are out of touch with reality (anti-EU, anti-immigrants, not pro-privacy enough, not pro-rehabilitation enough). What a large portion of my fellow citizens believe in is disgusting and inhumane imo, and you get politicians like Wilders catering to this group, and in response to losing votes to this asshole other parties feel like they have to cater to this brainless group of people as well. I'm ashamed of my country right now, bunch of disgusting racist fucks.

Can the UK turn into any more of a nanny state than it currently is

[QUOTE=mobrockers;43090639]The situation in the Netherlands isn't that much better at the moment, sorry. It's not really that politicians are out of touch with the people here, but more that the people are out of touch with reality (anti-EU, anti-immigrants, not pro-privacy enough, not pro-rehabilitation enough). What a large portion of my fellow citizens believe in is disgusting and inhumane imo, and you get politicians like Wilders catering to this group, and in response to losing votes to this asshole other parties feel like they have to cater to this brainless group of people as well. I'm ashamed of my country right now, bunch of disgusting racist fucks.[/QUOTE] That's a damn shame, there's a large scope for marine industry work in the Netherlands and i'd love to move to another country.

we need a black man in office

[QUOTE=Sableye;43078659]what does Russia and the UK have in common? do absolutely fucking nothing and you can get arrested for it! [b]thank god the left are too anti racism and the right is too pro freedoms to ever pass something over here at least for public acts,[/b] they seem to think the internet doesn't count though[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, what? [editline]6th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sableye;43078940][b]I wasnt saying my country was great I was saying this particular brand of legal shenanigans doesn't fly with politicians over here because they either see it as discriminatory or infringing on peoples rights[/b], yes there are a whole bunch of other stupid things cops can do to you here in the u.s. but hooliganism isn't one of them[/QUOTE] Are you talking shit? Because you must be talking shit. The NDAA was passed in your country, yet you claim that your politicians don't let shit fly because they see it as discriminatory or infringing on people's rights?