Photos of Swedish Neo-Nazis Fighting Antifascists in the Woods(vice) - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43221541]the extrme anti fascists are just as bad as the neo nazis. They both fight, vandalize and are a nuisance to society, but for different causes.[/QUOTE] yea one fights and is a nuisance to society because they wanna kill anyone who isn't like them and another one fights and is a nuisance to the former group. [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] both the exact same!

[QUOTE=yawmwen;43221469]yea you gotta deploy the right forces for the environment and tactics used. the german strategy was supposed to be based around combined arms with a high focus on mobility so i have no idea why they made such monstrosities like the tiger and king tiger.[/QUOTE] Things like the Maus, E series, and the King Tiger are the result of a Corporal attempting and utterly failing to run a military while ignoring the advice of experienced advisers. He was also the fool that killed the ME262's production late in the war, opting to change it's role into a fighter bomber and equipping it with a BK5.

Good, maybe they all kill eachother. Neo-Nazis and Antifa are both scum, not sure which is worse.

If kill each other, who will clean up body then?

OP i'm not sure what you mean that racist/nazi-movements are "on the rise"? According to SÄPO (swedish equalient of CIA/FBI/Secret Service) the nazi movements have not grown, they are just getting more aggressive.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;43221576]yea one fights and is a nuisance to society because they wanna kill anyone who isn't like them and another one fights and is a nuisance to the former group. [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] both the exact same![/QUOTE] Every time I see your posts I wonder if you are 14. Antifa are animals that are just as bad as Neo-Nazis, the trash of society going around vandalizing, looting, and assaulting to get out their anger. Antifa think they are some sort of heroic saviours (for their acts of heroism, see Gx protests, various assaults on unaware people, and many other heroic acts). If both groups kill eachother that's perfectly fine by me.

[QUOTE=acds;43221806]Every time I see your posts I wonder if you are 14. Antifa are animals that are just as bad as Neo-Nazis, the trash of society going around vandalizing, looting, and assaulting to get out their anger. Antifa think they are some sort of heroic saviours (for their acts of heroism, see Gx protests, various assaults on unaware people, and many other heroic acts). If both groups kill eachother that's perfectly fine by me.[/QUOTE] I think antifa should have the credit of having some people who have honest and good thoughts and aren't extremist violent nuts but "the mob" mostly is.

[QUOTE=Tophat;43221019]Hitler also improved the nations economic status and decreased the unemployment rate to 3%. The man may have done wrong, but don't dismiss his good that quickly.[/QUOTE] To do that he disowned and auctioned off Jewish businesses and goods and took on so much debt there was no way to pay it back except with war winnings. It was one big unsustainable rush to prepare Germany for war, not just in terms of economy and military but also mentality as the rapidly vanishing unemployment rates made Hitler look like the first competent politician in a long time - especially after Weimar. [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43221174]Yes the Weimar republic who built 7 whole feet of the Autobahn before Hitler assigned someone who gave 2 fucks about the project and actually hired more than 2 or 3 workers to build the fucking road.[/QUOTE] Speaking of Weimar, the gears of politics grind slowly, so Hitler benefited a *buttload* from plans set in motion during Weimar, a system which simply didn't last long enough to witness the effects of its change of course. Those things did however come into fruition just in time for Hitler's government. There never really was an economic miracle for Germany, merely an illusion unsustainable without conquering some good chunks of Europe.

[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;43221007]Wait, I thought Sweden was one of the world's [I]least[/I] reactionary countries.[/QUOTE]can people stop confusing Sweden with Finland

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43221110]I donno man the Autobahn is pretty rad[/QUOTE] Dont forget Volkswagen

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;43221174]Yes the Weimar republic who built 7 whole feet of the Autobahn before Hitler assigned someone who gave 2 fucks about the project and actually hired more than 2 or 3 workers to build the fucking road.[/QUOTE] tip: most of them weren't hired [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] The amount of Hitler apologies and defense in this thread disgusts me.

yeah honestly, nothing the nazi's did was good, no matter what. anything they did that could be construed as good was built out of suffering with the intention to cause more suffering

A friend of mine is in that Neo-Nazi group. Haven't spoken to him in a long while though.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43222409]yeah honestly, nothing the nazi's did was good, no matter what. anything they did that could be construed as good was built out of suffering with the intention to cause more suffering[/QUOTE] That depends on how you want to see it. As a whole they did bad (and even people who don't think the genocides were bad have to admit they still fucked up Europe for years to come), but if you take the parts by themselves they did do some good stuff. Lots of research and engineering progress mostly. All depends on if you take it as a whole, or each part by itself.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;43221413]You're thinking of the beastly King Tiger. There were about 1,347 Tiger I's [B]by the beginning of the war[/B]. Production dropped later as they moved towards the even more expensive Tiger II. It was a damn good heavy tank. But the Panther was a much better choice.[/QUOTE] 'scuse me, what? The war started in 1939, picked up pace in 1940, and the first Tiger rolled out it's factory in 1942. Also the tiger was an absolute mechanical nightmare and more of them were lost to simply not working than to enemy fire. Also also, everyone who goes "How can you say the autobahn was good when the holocaust happened?!", notice that the autobahn or unscrewing economy arguments are arguments for why shooting himself wasn't the [I]only[/I] good thing. We all agree that the bad hugely outweigh the good, but saying that every nazi ever was a mustache-twiddling kitten-stomper is just as ignorant as saying Hitler did nothing wrong.

[QUOTE=Killuah;43222383]tip: most of them weren't hired [editline]18th December 2013[/editline] The amount of Hitler apologies and defense in this thread disgusts me.[/QUOTE] Depends on what you consider "Hitler defense". Seeing him in a different light than the mainstream does? Hitler is pretty much represented as the Devil incarnate or some stupid shit (heck he wasn't even the worst genocidal dictator in recent history). There is a huge difference between thinking Hitler was good, and contesting a lot of the bullshit around him and the Third Reich. Nazis weren't creatures of materialized hatred, Hitler wasn't Lucifer incarnate, and you weren't immediately executed for not having blonde hair and blue eyes. There is the opposite myth around their tanks for example, where the German tanks are thought to be invincible. They weren't, for a long time they were inferior to what the USSR could field.

[QUOTE=Tophat;43221019]Hitler also improved the nations economic status and decreased the unemployment rate to 3%. The man may have done wrong, but don't dismiss his good that quickly.[/QUOTE] Yeah because he recruited everyone into the army/munition factories/whatever else he needed to build a military regime, and raised morale by blaming everything on the jews?! Swell guy

[QUOTE=Kinversulath;43221263] Hitler's Achievements: - Higher employment - The Autobahn - Started the deadliest war in human history - Committed the Holocaust I guess he's not [I]too [/I]bad if you want to say those things cancel each other out.[/QUOTE] You forgot the Jet engine!

Although I for obvious reasons prefer Antifa over neo-nazis, I still dislike them greatly. They dislike democracy, and prefer proposing their views and opinions by beating people senselessly, disrupting and destroying other, peaceful demonstrations which they disagree with, breaking things (private property included), and being generally expensive annoyances. Of course you can't blame all of Antifa for this kind of behaviour, but rather some of the people in their mob. Previously, some of them have also beaten random people, because they "looked like nazis". I'm fairly certain that most of them aren't in the mobs because they actually believe in their cause, but rather because they like to fight and vandalize things. Here's what the official Swedish Antifa page says (It's translated using Google Translate, so it might be a bit shoddy) : [quote=www.antifa.se] Antifascistisk Aktion (AFA) is a national network that was formed in September 1993. We believe that fascism must be fought ideologically and physically, in all its forms wherever it manifests itself. We have a libertarian socialist ethos and see ourselves as part of a broader militant extra-parliamentary leftist movement. We meet in the struggle against sexism, racism, capitalism, and homophobia. Although most of our work is done with "peaceful" methods, we are frequently criticized when we consider it justified to resort to violence. We have no desire to pick political points, to solicit votes or to be paraphrased well in the media. Our goal is to pull the rug on which organized fascism stands on. The fight against racism and fascism requires patience and persistence. The struggle never ends. As soon as we've lowered an organization, another one quickly takes it's place. But thanks to our patient work we never give fascism enough time to grow. The principle is simple. We do not allow the fascists to act undisturbed - no demonstrations, no meetings, no newspaper sales, no fascist concerts, no fascist bookstores, but we're there and fight them. We attack their structures. [/quote] Should probably also be noted that anyone who disagrees with them on basically any point what so ever (I.E anything ranging from economics, to sexuality and transgenderism, etcetera) , is automatically regarded as a freedom hating "fascist". Also: [IMG]http://www.antifa.se/img/pres2.jpg[/IMG] "[I]fuck da po-po[/I]"

Anti-fascists are basicly fascists who hate fascists. Hell in France they're worse than the actual so called "fascists", whatever you say that may be considered wrong by antifas' standards could result in you being attacked. Just being for the Front National (far-right wing, conservatives but not by any mean fascists) puts you in danger.

[QUOTE=headshotter;43223016]Anti-fascists are basicly fascists who hate fascists. Hell in France they're worse than the actual so called "fascists", whatever you say that may be considered wrong by antifas' standards could result in you being attacked. Just being for the Front National (far-right wing, conservatives but not by any mean fascists) puts you in danger.[/QUOTE] Is it like an Anti-Hero, same goals as the Hero (usually), but usually far more violent? AKA Deadpool

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;43223205]Is it like an Anti-Hero, same goals as the Hero (usually), but usually far more violent? AKA Deadpool[/QUOTE] Two villains fighting eachother is more accurate. If they didn't have neonazis to fight they'd go for just about anything else (and they often do).

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;43223205]Is it like an Anti-Hero, same goals as the Hero (usually), but usually far more violent? AKA Deadpool[/QUOTE] They're more like the villains who are supported by the medias propaganda and the governement when they're in fact much much worse for both democracy and security than the few fascists left are. I wouldn't give that much of a shit if they didn't have any political power and only targetted neo-nazis. Problem is they don't. If your opinion differs from theirs, you're in danger.

[QUOTE=Tophat;43221019]Hitler also improved the nations economic status and decreased the unemployment rate to 3%. The man may have done wrong, but don't dismiss his good that quickly.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The consequence was an extremely rapid decline in unemployment – the most rapid decline in unemployment in any country during the Great Depression.[24] But whether this helped the average German is a matter of debate—while more Germans had jobs, nationalization and a focus on rearmament meant rationing in food, clothing, metal, and wood [27] for most citizens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tophat;43221019]Hitler also improved the nations economic status and decreased the unemployment rate to 3%. The man may have done wrong, but don't dismiss his good that quickly.[/QUOTE]are we defending military industrial complexes now

[QUOTE=Riller;43222468]'scuse me, what? The war started in 1939, picked up pace in 1940, and the first Tiger rolled out it's factory in 1942. Also the tiger was an absolute mechanical nightmare and more of them were lost to simply not working than to enemy fire. Also also, everyone who goes "How can you say the autobahn was good when the holocaust happened?!", notice that the autobahn or unscrewing economy arguments are arguments for why shooting himself wasn't the [I]only[/I] good thing. We all agree that the bad hugely outweigh the good, but saying that every nazi ever was a mustache-twiddling kitten-stomper is just as ignorant as saying Hitler did nothing wrong.[/QUOTE] Sorry, mate. It was about 3 A.M. so I was pretty foggy.

[QUOTE=Tophat;43221019]Hitler also improved the nations economic status and decreased the unemployment rate to 3%. The man may have done wrong, but don't dismiss his good that quickly.[/QUOTE] Wasn't up to a quarter of the costs of Germany's entire war effort paid by loot stolen from Jews and other minorities they enslaved and massacred? Doesn't matter, the economy was good!

[url=http://digitaljournal.com/article/351147]"Anti"-fascism.[/url].

[QUOTE=Tophat;43221019]Hitler also improved the nations economic status and decreased the unemployment rate to 3%. The man may have done wrong, but don't dismiss his good that quickly.[/QUOTE] he did that by first siezing and liquidating goverment assets, followed by private property, and later other state's property.... basically the nazi reich was a giant ponzie scheme fed by taking territory. the u.s. goverment could have an unemployment rate of 3% tommorow if they repeated what they did in the 1930s but that isnt a sound long-term employment strategy as the great depression dogged the federal goverment for 20 years afterwards before the economy could stand on its own

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43224352]Wasn't up to a quarter of the costs of Germany's entire war effort paid by loot stolen from Jews and other minorities they enslaved and massacred? Doesn't matter, the economy was good![/QUOTE] The funny thing is that up to the 1820's to 1850's, most of the basic pay for armies was done by looting.