BBC accused of Brexit bias by more than 70 MPs in open letter
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[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51992805]UK Bohemian, they can't be helped. Let them keep thinking the BBC is in some way reputable.
The only person here who might defend some of your opinions in this section is me and - and they've already decided that I'm talking crap, whatever I say.
People have already taken sides in Globalism vs Nationalism. The BBC has decided to go with Globalism, as have pretty much everyone in this discussion section (apologies if that's not you).
It's their religion now, you can't convince them otherwise. Let's just leave them to it.[/QUOTE]
lmao, ah yeah, globalism: the new "jewish world order" conspiracy.
I have literally 0 idea how globalism is bad as a concept. Countries working together to solve large scale problems that are unsolvable alone. Sure there's corruption, but there is in each country singularly. Most corruption in e.g. the EU is from individual nations, not the EU parliament.
[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/corrupt-european-countries-costing-eu-nearly-800bn-a-year-says-study-a6944436.html[/url]
We have problems [B]now[/B] that require nations to work together. Instead people are labelling any coming together as 'globalism'. It just saddens me to the core.
You lot all know you're right, regardless of what I say.
Also, what's with invoking antisemitism every time? Who even mentioned Judaism?
But oh no, that's right, if someone dares to have an opinion that's not aligned with the BBC, they must be an anti-semite! Because Reasons! /s
Anyone who dares open their mouth to even suggest that globalism is a bad idea is automatically a holocaust denier? Give me a break and pull your own heads out of your asses. BBC = Bullshit Broadcasting Corporation.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51993561]You lot all know you're right, regardless of what I say.[/QUOTE]
So why is globalism bad in your eyes? I just don't get your quote:
[quote]People have already taken sides in Globalism vs Nationalism. The BBC has decided to go with Globalism, as have pretty much everyone in this discussion section (apologies if that's not you).[/quote]
What is a case of the BBC supporting Globalism? Can you link an article? Take this example about the TPP being canceled:
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32498715[/url]
It goes over it being cancelled, what it was, the for and against points, the affect of its cancellations, and possible next steps. How much less biased can you get?????
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51993561]You lot all know you're right, regardless of what I say.
Also, what's with invoking antisemitism every time? Who even mentioned Judaism?
But oh no, that's right, if someone dares to have an opinion that's not aligned with the BBC, they must be an anti-semite! Because Reasons! /s
Anyone who dares open their mouth to even suggest that globalism is a bad idea is automatically a holocaust denier? Give me a break and pull your own heads out of your asses. BBC = Bullshit Broadcasting Corporation.[/QUOTE]
because 'globalism' was literally part of the Nazi party's anti-Semitic conspiracies they used to justify the holocaust, and is continually alluded to by people like you for the past hundred years in some form or another to be alarmist about how the world is being taken over by some grand oligarchy who want to use multiculturalism to destroy "western culture". it's always "the elites" "the liberals" and of course "the Jews" when people aren't trying to be so discreet about it.
if you're seriously ignorant to this fact then consider yourself educated, go find another conspiracy to rave about.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51993561]You lot all know you're right, regardless of what I say.
Also, what's with invoking antisemitism every time? Who even mentioned Judaism?
But oh no, that's right, if someone dares to have an opinion that's not aligned with the BBC, they must be an anti-semite! Because Reasons! /s
Anyone who dares open their mouth to even suggest that globalism is a bad idea is automatically a holocaust denier? Give me a break and pull your own heads out of your asses. BBC = Bullshit Broadcasting Corporation.[/QUOTE]
You seem to think you're right regardless of what we say.
[QUOTE=1239the;51993641]because 'globalism' was literally part of the Nazi party's anti-Semitic conspiracies they used to justify the holocaust, and is continually alluded to by people like you for the past hundred years in some form or another to be alarmist about how the world is being taken over by some grand oligarchy who want to use multiculturalism to destroy "western culture". it's always "the elites" "the liberals" and of course "the Jews" when people aren't trying to be so discreet about it.
if you're seriously ignorant to this fact then consider yourself educated, go find another conspiracy to rave about.[/QUOTE]
I don't accept your reasoning as the foundation for my belief that globalism is not a good idea.
I'm not against multiculturism, accepting refugees, or even "the Jews".
I am uniquely against "centralization of political power". There is a push (mostly by the left, although it is cross-party) for more centralization of power in the belief that a restricted set of viewpoints and less national borders will somehow liberate the people from war and result in equality of outcome and social justice for all.
War is made for business purposes. The only reason there is a state of tension between the US, Russia and China is because it is profitable for the arms industry on both sides. There is the minor subtext that no side really wants the other to be in control of the single world power structure that follows. They don't want the other side to gain that power. Nor should the citizens of any country.
Countries merging is just like a company merger. Eventually, the smaller companies are bought up to eliminate the competition.
Hitler had the stupid idea that for some reason "the Jews" were in some way responsible for globalism. The reality however, is that a small subset of the Jewish people are hellbent on the expansion of Israel at any cost. [b]Note that I said a [i]small subset[/i]. However! - There are also a small subset of the vatican who are hellbent on obtaining Jerusalem for themselves and see Zionism as a nice way to protect it from Islam. As usual, the religious peoples of the world, whether they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, etc are being thrown at each other in order to justify the sale of weapons by the large international arms manufacturers and to solidify the idea in the minds of the people worldwide that religion itself is dumb.
The people behind the curtains who push for religious crusades, for whichever religion it is, don't actually care about their religion, they care about making money and dominating others through subversion of their followers.
It's not a "Jewish Conspiracy" - it's a global gravitation toward world governance which is being brought about by the infiltrators of the three major religions. Those infiltrators don't care about the Jewish people, the Christians, the Muslims or anyone else. They are not "people of God". They believe they [b][i]are[/i] god[/b]. Over you, and over everyone else. Since nobody will pick them up on it, they carry on laughing about it. If anyone dares to question them, they can just hide behind the atrocities committed toward the Jewish people and claim antisemitism. It's the perfect cover. Listen. They're not even Jewish. It is very convenient for them that the poor Jews receive the flak because then they can [b]never[/b] be brought to account as the non-religious subversive infiltrators that they are·
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51995003]I don't accept your reasoning as the foundation for my belief that globalism is not a good idea.
It's not a "Jewish Conspiracy" - it's a global gravitation toward world governance which is being brought about by the infiltrators of the three major religions. Those infiltrators don't care about the Jewish people, the Christians, the Muslims or anyone else. They are not "people of God". They believe they [b][i]are[/i] god[/b]. Over you, and over everyone else. Since nobody will pick them up on it, they carry on laughing about it. If anyone dares to question them, they can just hide behind the atrocities committed toward the Jewish people and claim antisemitism. It's the perfect cover. Listen. They're not even Jewish. It is very convenient for them that the poor Jews receive the flak because then they can [b]never[/b] be brought to account as the non-religious subversive infiltrators that they are·[/QUOTE]
Any evidence for this? You're talking from evidence right not just hearsay? I have severe problems with Israel, and organised religion, but everyone (info wars, daily mail, breitbart etc) saying this kind of thing with no proof just makes the whole world blind. Imagine if all decisions by governments and decision makers were based on fact, not their personal belief. Surely that's optimal?
History tells us if we go back to more closed off nations there will be war much more frequently. Climate change is only going to make that worse as flooding and famine causes migration in even wealthy countries. Now isn't the time to decry any internationalsm because of 'subversive infiltrators' . Who cares??? Weve got shit to do together, that's more important than anything.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51995003]I don't accept your reasoning as the foundation for my belief that globalism is not a good idea.
I'm not against multiculturism, accepting refugees, or even "the Jews".
I am uniquely against "centralization of political power". There is a push (mostly by the left, although it is cross-party) for more centralization of power in the belief that a restricted set of viewpoints and less national borders will somehow liberate the people from war and result in equality of outcome and social justice for all.
War is made for business purposes. The only reason there is a state of tension between the US, Russia and China is because it is profitable for the arms industry on both sides. There is the minor subtext that no side really wants the other to be in control of the single world power structure that follows. They don't want the other side to gain that power. Nor should the citizens of any country.
Countries merging is just like a company merger. Eventually, the smaller companies are bought up to eliminate the competition.
Hitler had the stupid idea that for some reason "the Jews" were in some way responsible for globalism. The reality however, is that a small subset of the Jewish people are hellbent on the expansion of Israel at any cost. [b]Note that I said a [i]small subset[/i]. However! - There are also a small subset of the vatican who are hellbent on obtaining Jerusalem for themselves and see Zionism as a nice way to protect it from Islam. As usual, the religious peoples of the world, whether they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, etc are being thrown at each other in order to justify the sale of weapons by the large international arms manufacturers and to solidify the idea in the minds of the people worldwide that religion itself is dumb.
The people behind the curtains who push for religious crusades, for whichever religion it is, don't actually care about their religion, they care about making money and dominating others through subversion of their followers.
It's not a "Jewish Conspiracy" - it's a global gravitation toward world governance which is being brought about by the infiltrators of the three major religions. Those infiltrators don't care about the Jewish people, the Christians, the Muslims or anyone else. They are not "people of God". They believe they [b][i]are[/i] god[/b]. Over you, and over everyone else. Since nobody will pick them up on it, they carry on laughing about it. If anyone dares to question them, they can just hide behind the atrocities committed toward the Jewish people and claim antisemitism. It's the perfect cover. Listen. They're not even Jewish. It is very convenient for them that the poor Jews receive the flak because then they can [b]never[/b] be brought to account as the non-religious subversive infiltrators that they are·[/QUOTE]
this post put that deus ex music in my head, the one which has alex jones rambling about the higher dimensions over it
also, 10/10 for this part
[quote]I'm not against multiculturism, accepting refugees, or even "the Jews".[/quote]
not [B]EVEN[/B] the jews, my god
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51992805]The only person here who might defend some of your opinions in this section is me and - and they've already decided that I'm talking crap, whatever I say.
People have already taken sides in Globalism vs Nationalism. The BBC has decided to go with Globalism, as have pretty much everyone in this discussion section (apologies if that's not you).
It's their religion now, you can't convince them otherwise. Let's just leave them to it.[/QUOTE]
I'd like some context from you so I can calibrate my ironometer. Which UK political party would you say you align with? What do you think of Farage? Or if that's too personal, what makes you think nationalism is a viable solution to the problems of Globalism?
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51992649]it's never biased if it fits with your opinion.
[editline]21st March 2017[/editline]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36956418[/url][/QUOTE]
Why are you linking this as an example of good news?
Did you even read it? There are 2 good things out of a list of like 20. And those good things (trade increase but we're still in deficit, GDP increase of 0.1%) are totally offset by the pound being 20% weaker anyway.
the doom and gloom isn't BBC bias, these are [b]actual facts[/b] and figures.
Feels over reals once again
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51995003]I don't accept your reasoning as the foundation for my belief that globalism is not a good idea.
I'm not against multiculturism, accepting refugees, or even "the Jews".
I am uniquely against "centralization of political power". There is a push (mostly by the left, although it is cross-party) for more centralization of power in the belief that a restricted set of viewpoints and less national borders will somehow liberate the people from war and result in equality of outcome and social justice for all.
War is made for business purposes. The only reason there is a state of tension between the US, Russia and China is because it is profitable for the arms industry on both sides. There is the minor subtext that no side really wants the other to be in control of the single world power structure that follows. They don't want the other side to gain that power. Nor should the citizens of any country.
Countries merging is just like a company merger. Eventually, the smaller companies are bought up to eliminate the competition.
Hitler had the stupid idea that for some reason "the Jews" were in some way responsible for globalism. The reality however, is that a small subset of the Jewish people are hellbent on the expansion of Israel at any cost. [b]Note that I said a [i]small subset[/i]. However! - There are also a small subset of the vatican who are hellbent on obtaining Jerusalem for themselves and see Zionism as a nice way to protect it from Islam. As usual, the religious peoples of the world, whether they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, etc are being thrown at each other in order to justify the sale of weapons by the large international arms manufacturers and to solidify the idea in the minds of the people worldwide that religion itself is dumb.
The people behind the curtains who push for religious crusades, for whichever religion it is, don't actually care about their religion, they care about making money and dominating others through subversion of their followers.
It's not a "Jewish Conspiracy" - it's a global gravitation toward world governance which is being brought about by the infiltrators of the three major religions. Those infiltrators don't care about the Jewish people, the Christians, the Muslims or anyone else. They are not "people of God". They believe they [b][i]are[/i] god[/b]. Over you, and over everyone else. Since nobody will pick them up on it, they carry on laughing about it. If anyone dares to question them, they can just hide behind the atrocities committed toward the Jewish people and claim antisemitism. It's the perfect cover. Listen. They're not even Jewish. It is very convenient for them that the poor Jews receive the flak because then they can [b]never[/b] be brought to account as the non-religious subversive infiltrators that they are·[/QUOTE]
"I'm not saying it's the jews... but it's the jews"?
What's with these passive aggressive "there's no point in arguing with any of you you're all brainwashed, but I'm going to argue with you" attitude?
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51992805]
People have already taken sides in Globalism vs Nationalism. The BBC has decided to go with Globalism, as have pretty much everyone in this discussion section (apologies if that's not you).
[/QUOTE]
People are only taking sides within fevered minds of people who need to invent vague, monolithic boogeymen for them to stand against.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51992805]
People have already taken sides in Globalism vs Nationalism. The BBC has decided to go with Globalism, as have pretty much everyone in this discussion section (apologies if that's not you).
[/QUOTE]
Well politically this has to be the case. You do not live in a vacuum and are no immune for the decisions of others. Ie if there is a war on your border you will feel the effects and pollution from your neighbour effects you - so it makes sense politically to try and influence that.
Economically you are presenting a false dichotomy of 2 extremes. Protective trade and economic autonomy vs out sourcing of jobs and free trade. Both are stupid and dangerous. There is a sane middle ground - free trade amongst groups of nations with similar regulations and standards, with tariffs to protect industry from exterior competition who don't abide by those standards - ie what the EU has. For this to work though the standards and regulations need to be agreed. The beauty of this is you get the advantages of free trade (some places are better equipped to make stuff) without the downside (out competition by companies with lower/no standards).
As I see it Brexit will do 1 of 3 things (economically)
A)We stay in EU free trade area with less say on regulations - a loss since we lose power
B) We leave free trade and try for autonomy and protective trade - not possible and nobody is stupid enough to try it
C) We leave free trade and commence more free trade (ie more globalist) with places like America and India which have far lower standards and production costs.
C => our companies are out competed by foreign companies or we have to slash our standards, lower taxes, get rid of welfare and do a race to the bottom.
A is the preferable scenario but it is still worse than what we currently have.
The reason the EU has to be political rather than economic is to enforce those standards and regulations, and to encourage mutual development and normalisation of taxation. If we have the EU without that legislation it would be a C type of scenario where our industry moves to a free trade country because that free trade country has shit tier standards, low taxes and no welfare.
I'm no globalist as I hope this post has demonstrated but there is merit in free trade amongst nations with similar standards and policies.
To be entirely fair, isn't reality and common sense fairly strongly biased against Brexit too?
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[QUOTE=froztshock;51993207]As someone who's only somewhat versed in macroeconomics, it's fucking hilarious to see so many idiots as of late basically advocating [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercantilism]mercantilism[/url] without having even the most basic understanding of the mathematical benefits that international trade has on an economy as a whole. Meanwhile, you'll probably also see the same people arguing for heavy tariffs in the same breath as they attack taxes, without realizing that both are mechanically identical.
You poor fucks haven't figured out some key bit of economic theory that nobody's noticed before, you're advocating the discredited economic policy that led the American colonies to revolt, rofl.
Considering ph:lxyz's tone, it sounds like he's not going to stick around to argue the point either... Hmmm.[/QUOTE]
Only nobody is talking about Mercantilism.
Nobody knows how many trade deals the UK will secure globally or even the deal that they will eventually have with the EU.
It's all rhetoric bollocks or guesswork. I would be more worried about the future of Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy.
People need to stop fucking whining until they know better.
[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;51995003]War is made for business purposes. The only reason there is a state of tension between the US, Russia and China is because it is profitable for the arms industry on both sides. There is the minor subtext that no side really wants the other to be in control of the single world power structure that follows. They don't want the other side to gain that power. Nor should the citizens of any country.
[/QUOTE]
which is why economies and international trade perform at their worst during major wars
here's a radical idea - what if nobody is actually in control of anything, and that pretty much the entire global geopolitical system is built upon people who have no idea of what they're doing and mostly make up shit as they go along?
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51995442]Only nobody is talking about Mercantilism.
Nobody knows how many trade deals the UK will secure globally or even the deal that they will eventually have with the EU.
It's all rhetoric bollocks or guesswork. I would be more worried about the future of Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy.
People need to stop fucking whining until they know better.[/QUOTE]
How many layers of irony are we on now? Because you telling people to stop whining until we know better, despite the many experts who have said it's not a good idea is just super ironic.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;51995867]How many layers of irony are we on now? Because you telling people to stop whining until we know better, despite the many experts who have said it's not a good idea is just super ironic.[/QUOTE]
i think we suffered an immediate overflow in layers of irony when the same poster who called the bbc biased then went on to cite the bbc in one of his arguments
or to use a different word than irony: enormous hypocrisy
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51992823]it's more that they want Brexit to fail because they have an undying belief it will.[/QUOTE]
Actually, not everyone has the luxury of being petty and hoping everything goes wrong for the sake of spiting people they disagree with politically on the internet.
For some of us, Brexit "failing" could have very real consequences beyond "looking dumb to those remain fuckers on the internet" (and frankly, that ship has already sailed for you anyway).
Think of it this way,
Experts in all relevant fields overwhelmingly predict that things are going to go badly for the UK.
Right-wing tabloids, slimy politicians (that vanished the moment they won), and feels before reals internet posters say it's going to be the start of a golden age and bring back the British empire.
oooh jeez, tough one.
Perhaps the reason their belief is so "undying" is because your side is unable to kill it with the "Rhetoric and Guesswork" you have to offer.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51995122]Why are you linking this as an example of good news?
Did you even read it? There are 2 good things out of a list of like 20. And those good things (trade increase but we're still in deficit, GDP increase of 0.1%) are totally offset by the pound being 20% weaker anyway.
the doom and gloom isn't BBC bias, these are [b]actual facts[/b] and figures.
Feels over reals once again[/QUOTE]
I think you read it with bias.
[editline]22nd March 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51996125]Actually, not everyone has the luxury of being petty and hoping everything goes wrong for the sake of spiting people they disagree with politically on the internet.
For some of us, Brexit "failing" could have very real consequences beyond "looking dumb to those remain fuckers on the internet" (and frankly, that ship has already sailed for you anyway).
Think of it this way,
Experts in all relevant fields overwhelmingly predict that things are going to go badly for the UK.
Right-wing tabloids, slimy politicians (that vanished the moment they won), and feels before reals internet posters say it's going to be the start of a golden age and bring back the British empire.
oooh jeez, tough one.
Perhaps the reason their belief is so "undying" is because your side is unable to kill it with the "Rhetoric and Guesswork" you have to offer.[/QUOTE]
we are going in circles, you think we're doomed and i don't.
the UK is more than capable of replacing any missing trade with other countries. a lot of EU countries are fucked financially (FACT) so I am still waiting for an explanation as to why the EU hasn't worked for these countries? untold other EU countries populous is scattered across the EU trying to make a living which suggests to me that they are not in great shape either.
i have always found that the people doing the bleating are often the ones who can't get on in life, take a leaf out of the eastern european countries book and do something constructive about your plight other than fucking moaning if it is really that bad, which it really fucking isn't.
regarding your bullshit rhetoric, i see more bollocks about bringing back the empire coming from the remain camp, i haven't seen any genuine brexit voters even mention the fucking empire.
UK Bohemian
Did you make your account for some kind of bizarre Tory conspiracy where you try to convince us of utter bullshit Anti intellectual, anti working class, pro-elite nonsense? I don't think you've ever had a consistent,well grounded and well meaning argument in any post I've ever seen you make.
I mean your only saving grace is that the whole account could be a satire, and you're a top bloke who's taking the piss.
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51996830]
i have always found that the people doing the bleating are often the ones who can't get on in life, take a leaf out of the eastern european countries book and do something constructive about your plight other than fucking moaning if it is really that bad, which it really fucking isn't.[/QUOTE]
Funny because Ive always found that the people talking out of their arseholes about the ~plight~ of anyone less fortunate than themselves tend to be privileged brats with a 'fuck you got mine' attitude and no idea what it's like to be one step from the streets.
Maybe you could focus on building some semblance of a coherent argument for your position instead of focusing entirely on giving me some hollow conservative lecture about pulling myself out of my financial situation by my bootsraps, when you clearly have no concept of the obstacles involved.
Seriously, cut it out it looks pathetic.
You have read (or half read from the looks of things) one post about my personal life a week or so ago, and now you think "haha ur so poor!" is the ultimate gotcha' whenever I post? because that's what it looks like. How about something of substance instead next time?
Also, Just because you are fond of acting like your gut feelings and warm fuzzies are the equivalent expert opinion, facts, and figures- doesn't mean you don't look stupid to everyone else each time you try to draw some kind of false equivalence between the facts and "wot u fink".
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51996830]take a leaf out of the eastern european countries book and do something constructive about your plight other than fucking moaning if it is really that bad, which it really fucking isn't.[/QUOTE]
Holy fucking bootstraps mate, what the hell do you know about peoples plight mister 'why don't you just do well in life like me'.
Your arguments have devolved recently from somewhat coherent into literally blaming the poor and less fortunate for being exactly that. I hope one day you have to experience the 'plight', maybe you'd stop talking like you know it all.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51997203]Funny because Ive always found that the people talking out of their arseholes about the ~plight~ of anyone less fortunate than themselves tend to be privileged brats with a 'fuck you got mine' attitude and no idea what it's like to be one step from the streets.
Maybe you could focus on building some semblance of a coherent argument for your position instead of focusing entirely on giving me some hollow conservative lecture about pulling myself out of my financial situation by my bootsraps, when you clearly have no concept of the obstacles involved.
Seriously, cut it out it looks pathetic.
You have read (or half read from the looks of things) one post about my personal life a week or so ago, and now you think "haha ur so poor!" is the ultimate gotcha' whenever I post? because that's what it looks like. How about something of substance instead next time?
Also, Just because you are fond of acting like your gut feelings and warm fuzzies are the equivalent expert opinion, facts, and figures- doesn't mean you don't look stupid to everyone else each time you try to draw some kind of false equivalence between the facts and "wot u fink".[/QUOTE]
You know fuck all about my plight because I don't choose to air my personal life in a public forum.
I notice how you cherry pick only part of my post before ranting.
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52000615]You know fuck all about my plight because I don't choose to air my personal life in a public forum.
I notice how you cherry pick only part of my post before ranting.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51978154]If people used as much energy making something of their lives as they do talking shit here they would be doing well, like me [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52000615]You know fuck all about my plight because I don't choose to air my personal life in a public forum.
I notice how you cherry pick only part of my post before ranting.[/QUOTE]
And you know fuck all about the plight of those you accuse of whining without doing anything to have it better.
Take your own fucking advice.
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52000615]You know fuck all about my plight because I don't choose to air my personal life in a public forum.[/QUOTE]
Only you do when you are trying to be smug.
You can't go around giving people out of touch lectures about how they just need to bootsrap the fuck out of any form of hardship, brag about how well off you are, and then act indignant when people assume you are just another oblivious Tory chatting bollocks about situations you don't understand.
[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;52000615]I notice how you cherry pick only part of my post before ranting.[/QUOTE]
I picked out the part of your post that was becoming something of a sad trend of making personal attacks instead of actual points and asked you to knock it off.
What? you want to make backhanded comments about the financial situation of others without looking like a total prick? That's not how things work mate.
I honestly don't see how you have the impression that ive ~shown my power level~ on a public forum from one post that didn't even go into any real detail about the events or specifics.
You don't have me at a disadvantage, It's not relevant to the discussion, you aren't hitting some crucial nerve, you just look like a dick, stop posting about it.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;52000830]Only you do when you are trying to be smug.
You can't go around giving people out of touch lectures about how they just need to bootsrap the fuck out of any form of hardship, brag about how well off you are, and then act indignant when people assume you are just another oblivious Tory chatting bollocks about situations you don't understand.
I picked out the part of your post that was becoming something of a sad trend of making personal attacks instead of actual points and asked you to knock it off.
What? you want to make backhanded comments about the financial situation of others without looking like a total prick? That's not how things work mate.
I honestly don't see how you have the impression that ive ~shown my power level~ on a public forum from one post that didn't even go into any real detail about the events or specifics.
You don't have me at a disadvantage, It's not relevant to the discussion, you aren't hitting some crucial nerve, you just look like a dick, stop posting about it.[/QUOTE]
Unlike you I am not looking for an advantage, it was in context to the point I made that the EU is shit but the people from the more disadvantaged countries of the EU don't just moan about their plight they do something about it.
The constant moaning about a situation that might or might not happen is tiresome.
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