• Bus driver uppercuts young woman
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[QUOTE=zakedodead;38009146]And in that hypothetical situation they wouldn't go to prison because it was in self defense.[/QUOTE] self defense? the guy who deals the uppercut gets out of his chair (having not been pushed, it was actually the other guy who needs 'defending'), walks for a few seconds, then proceeds to uppercut the girl. who in that space of time, was not doing anything. that is not self defense. self defense is uppercutting someone who is running at you, in a fighting stance about to punch you, whatever. the girl wasn't doing anything.
Posted this in the media thread, but this song is all too fitting. More on-topic, I don't exactly agree with the uppercut and strangling, but considering she was smacking him while he was driving just because of an argument, and due to the stupidity of everyone else involved, I don't particularly care what her gender is in the situation - that girl had it coming to her one way or another. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS_1ZZAaD94[/media]
The laugh 40 seconds in is priceless.
Most people seem to agree that this girl deserved it - and honestly I think she did. I don't think it was right in any way - and in a perfect world he would have kept his cool - but she did deserve it. It's human to overreact, and I think that's what the bus driver did - he isn't a misogynist, and the people saying "she deserved it" aren't necessarily either. I won't condone the "bitches get stitches" because that's just dumb, but saying that she deserved it is in no way a stretch.
"That's a female!" Um... Shut the fuck up and starve PLLEEEAAZEH
[QUOTE=Oblivion470;38009338]"That's a female!" Um... Shut the fuck up and starve PLLEEEAAZEH[/QUOTE] what?
Good to know my hometown is staying just as classy while I'm away.
That guy should get reinstated as a bus driver
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;38007725]Please no you'll attract the sanius squad[/QUOTE] haha yeah the sanius squad that would quickly agree you shouldn't give women preferential treatment in a brawl. I love all the sheltered anti feminist dudes who always joke about feminist posters that don't exist on this plane of reality. always some awkward snarky joke about some female supremacy shit nobody here says
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38009461]haha yeah the sanius squad that would quickly agree you shouldn't give women preferential treatment in a brawl. I love all the sheltered anti feminist dudes who always joke about feminist posters that don't exist on this plane of reality. always some awkward snarky joke about some female supremacy shit nobody here says[/QUOTE] Funny you should say that, because... Well, just keep reading. Page 2 is a good place to continue.
[QUOTE=mac338;38009468]Funny you should say that, because... Well, just keep reading. Page 2 is a good place to continue.[/QUOTE] on mobile so im going by faith and memory that sanius isn't saying "you can't hit girls!" but rather pointing out that the uppercut was a big leap of violence and force from pushing. another thing that is great is how people instantly cry feminazi and other bumper sticker worthy zingers whenever someone doesn't condone assaulting a minor, but somehow all the stupid "bitches get stitches" style posts go unscathed even though its ridiculously clear they're just a cry of joy from some dude who is thrilled to hear a teenage girl got assaulted by an adult
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38009539]on mobile so im going by faith and memory that sanius isn't saying "you can't hit girls!" but rather pointing out that the uppercut was a big leap of violence and force from pushing. another thing that is great is how people instantly cry feminazi and other bumper sticker worthy zingers whenever someone doesn't condone assaulting a minor, but somehow all the stupid "bitches get stitches" style posts go unscathed even though its ridiculously clear they're just a cry of joy from some dude who is thrilled to hear a teenage girl got assaulted by an adult[/QUOTE] Well when you get on a computer you can read up on it.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38009544]Well when you get on a computer you can read up on it.[/QUOTE] quote him saying you can't hit women because they're women
[QUOTE=Bobie;38009171]self defense? the guy who deals the uppercut gets out of his chair (having not been pushed, it was actually the other guy who needs 'defending'), walks for a few seconds, then proceeds to uppercut the girl. who in that space of time, was not doing anything. that is not self defense. self defense is uppercutting someone who is running at you, in a fighting stance about to punch you, whatever. the girl wasn't doing anything.[/QUOTE] The upper cut was definitely a little bit over the top but the girl needed to be dealt with and it was pretty obvious she wasn't just going to get off the bus. She was shouting at the bus driver while he was driving a bus full of people. I have never driven a bus myself but I don't imagine it is very easy to pay attention to the road and other traffic when you have some idiot yelling down your ear.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38009553]quote him saying you can't hit women because they're women[/QUOTE] He never said that. He said this [QUOTE=Dori;38008160]yo uppercutting somebody after they push you isn't self-defense[/QUOTE] Which is an opinion I can respect. Fair enough. Until he concluded his post with: [QUOTE=Dori;38008160]this thread is the perfect amalgamation of racism and misogyny[/QUOTE] Total loss of ethos.
[QUOTE=mac338;38009604]He never said that. He said this Which is an opinion I can respect. Fair enough. Until he concluded his post with: Total loss of ethos.[/QUOTE] the last part definitely applies to a number of posters in here so I don't see the issue. I find it a lot more worrying you're more concerned with sanius calling a few people out on their obvious motivations than you are with all the people celebrating assault because they love seeing women get hit because they feel its am unfair social rule that you can't hit women
I wonder if she'll go to jail. In Atlanta, if you assault a Marta employee, you can get jail time up to 20 years.
[QUOTE=Dori;38008380][QUOTE=mac338;38008375] Okay, so say the person punched was male, and people said said 'deserved it' -- are they misandrists?[/QUOTE]no[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure he did pretty much say hitting girls is wrong because they're girls
[QUOTE=squids_eye;38009599]The upper cut was definitely a little bit over the top but the girl needed to be dealt with and it was pretty obvious she wasn't just going to get off the bus. She was shouting at the bus driver while he was driving a bus full of people. I have never driven a bus myself but I don't imagine it is very easy to pay attention to the road and other traffic when you have some idiot yelling down your ear.[/QUOTE] Well then that doesn't make sense either because you're presupposing that the course of action that the bus driver took was precisely done to prevent an escalation of the situation... which is exactly what happened anyway once he assaulted her back. In situations like these I'd just hunker down and let the police handle it as soon as possible, but remembering that I'm also white, I realize that I haven't had the same type of experience with authority as black folks have had in the past, so frankly I don't know what I would've done had I been in their position (this is a whole other can of worms though).
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38009716]the last part definitely applies to a number of posters in here so I don't see the issue. I find it a lot more worrying you're more concerned with sanius calling a few people out on their obvious motivations than you are with all the people celebrating assault [U]because they love seeing women get hit because they feel its am unfair social rule that you can't hit women[/U][/QUOTE] That is an interesting way of framing it to say the least. Wether or not the punch was justified and/or assault is a [I]whole[/I] other discussion, that's also taken part in the sideline-posts of this thread. Call me a bad person for it, but I believe the punch was justified, for reasons brought up earlier in the thread that have nothing to do with the social rule. The social rule was a side-note as a result of it being mentioned in the video. I agree that some of the posts in reaction to it were somewhat out-of-line, but I did not believe they were misogynist (or were unable to filter them from the sarcasm that is present in every single SH thread). That being said, I felt Dori's comment was... well, the equivalent of Glenn Beck calling Obama a socialist and communist for attempting to institute socialized medicine.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;38009716]the last part definitely applies to a number of posters in here so I don't see the issue. I find it a lot more worrying you're more concerned with sanius calling a few people out on their obvious motivations than you are with all the people celebrating assault because they love seeing women get hit because they feel its am unfair social rule that you can't hit women[/QUOTE] I loved it mostly because she was asking for it and was being an obnoxious cunt, not because she was a woman. I would have felt the same if it was a guy getting decked.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38009765]I'm pretty sure he did pretty much say hitting girls is wrong because they're girls[/QUOTE] To be fair to him I think he meant it was misogynist what people were saying, and not the punch itself. (In context of his later post)
[QUOTE=mac338;38009869]That is an interesting way of framing it to say the least. Wether or not the punch was justified and/or assault is a [I]whole[/I] other discussion, that's also taken part in the sideline-posts of this thread. Call me a bad person for it, but I believe the punch was justified, for reasons brought up earlier in the thread that have nothing to do with the social rule. The social rule was a side-note as a result of it being mentioned in the video. I agree that some of the posts in reaction to it were somewhat out-of-line, but I did not believe they were misogynist (or were unable to filter them from the sarcasm that is present in every single SH thread). That being said, I felt Dori's comment was... well, the equivalent of Glenn Beck calling Obama a socialist and communist for attempting to institute socialized medicine.[/QUOTE] No he's right I just wanna see a girl get the shit beat out of her. [editline]12th October 2012[/editline] I think it's hot.
[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;38009787]Well then that doesn't make sense either because you're presupposing that the course of action that the bus driver took was precisely done to prevent an escalation of the situation... which is exactly what happened anyway once he assaulted her back. In situations like these I'd just hunker down and let the police handle it as soon as possible, but remembering that I'm also white, I realize that I haven't had the same type of experience with authority as black folks have had in the past, so frankly I don't know what I would've done had I been in their position (this is a whole other can of worms though).[/QUOTE] I don't disagree that how he dealt with the situation was entirely unprofessional and excessive. He should have tried to remove her from the bus without decking her first but chances are he was stressed, tired and sick of taking peoples shit. I wasn't saying she needed to be dealt to prevent her from escalating the conflict. She needed to be taken off the bus because she was distracting the driver while the bus was in motion and risking the other passengers lives.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;38010042]I don't disagree that how he dealt with the situation was entirely unprofessional and excessive. He should have tried to remove her from the bus without decking her first but chances are he was stressed, tired and sick of taking peoples shit. I wasn't saying she needed to be dealt to prevent her from escalating the conflict. She needed to be taken off the bus because she was distracting the driver while the bus was in motion and risking the other passengers lives.[/QUOTE] I bet that took her off the bus.
That guy should be a cop.
When someone is screeching in your ear saying they're gonna beat the shit out of you while you're transporting a bus full of people, you can't exactly be calm and not be stressed.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;38009897]I loved it mostly because she was asking for it and was being an obnoxious cunt, not because she was a woman. I would have felt the same if it was a guy getting decked.[/QUOTE] Guys can be obnoxious cunts, just like woman can be douchebags
jesus christ it's like a bunch of monkeys howling on a bus
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38009765]I'm pretty sure he did pretty much say hitting girls is wrong because they're girls[/QUOTE] no he's saying that there is nothing misandrist about a guy punching another guy. inherently there is no reason to cry misandry if men got in a fight other than to obnoxiously promote "equal rights" which somehow now means being blind from how gender interacts with issues
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