Someone craps on Feminist Frequency with a bunch of phamplets at E3 - Polidicks

I always felt, it was a bit strange how she did adverts, TV, movies ,music first and then games last and then stuck to them. Also the whole kick starter business bothered me too, she didn't need money to do her show before, at the time everyone was using kick starter to fund everything, but I always felt it was just to get money they didn't need. Like as posted before she already has the games and consoles before she got the money, in the promo. Like they did movies and no one cared, same with music and TV , and there is just as much sexism in those areas of entertainment if not more or less than games, but they didn't make a mark on those or money so they stuck with games.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043693]Kinda hard to properly critique something if you don't give it some kind of go, don't you think?[/QUOTE] Hasn't stopped people in the past. Besides, she constantly misrepresents the games she critiques, and leaves out several details that would disproved her claims. It's hard to say if she even has played any of those games, even with that big pile she owns.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48043723]Well she uses Letsplayer footage for her videos and well.. this. [video=youtube;WuRSaLZidWI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuRSaLZidWI[/video][/QUOTE] While I typically [i]mostly[/i] agree with him I'd rather thunderf00t wasn't our go to guy. It's the same as using AmazingAtheist to argue against religion. I'm just not big on fedora touting, shouty, feigned outrage thing. MundaneMatt maybe?

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;48043767]Hasn't stopped people in the past. Besides, she constantly misrepresents the games she critiques, and leaves out several details that would disproved her claims. It's hard to say if she even has played any of those games, even with that big pile she owns.[/QUOTE] uhuh. But that isn't my point. "Calling her out" because she has a stack of games that includes things she has said negative things about doesn't prove jack. It just shows she has a ton of games that she may or may not have actually used to develop her critique. Basically your entire fuckin' point was silly and totally meaningless. [editline]24th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;48043723]Well she uses Letsplayer footage for her videos and well.. this.[/QUOTE] Using footage from others isn't exactly the end of the world. Maybe someone doesn't have a capture device? Or thought their own gameplay just wouldn't work well because it was clumsy or whatever? Again, that point is totally useless. It's only a negative against her in that she undoubtedly didn't ask permission to use the footage. But it [I]might[/I] fall under fair use.

[QUOTE=Conscript;48043622]ad lapidum + ad populum.[/quote] Funny enough there's a fallacy form relating to how simply calling out fallacies isn't a valid form of argument. [quote]as far as I can tell you're butthurt those cultural marxist feminazis are ruining your vidya games with their culture critiques.[/QUOTE] I like how you're making baseless assumptions about my position on a topic I have made absolutely no point on in this thread. Words in my mouth and all that.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043788]uhuh. But that isn't my point. "Calling her out" because she has a stack of games that includes things she has said negative things about doesn't prove jack. It just shows she has a ton of games that she may or may not have actually used to develop her critique. Basically your entire fuckin' point was silly and totally meaningless. [editline]24th June 2015[/editline] Using footage from others isn't exactly the end of the world. Maybe someone doesn't have a capture device? Or thought their own gameplay just wouldn't work well because it was clumsy or whatever? Again, that point is totally useless. It's only a negative against her in that she undoubtedly didn't ask permission to use the footage. But it [I]might[/I] fall under fair use.[/QUOTE] in her original fucking kickstarter she basicly stole art :suicide: [IMG]http://38.media.tumblr.com/c7d16676418c28e52d574a74f8b16be7/tumblr_inline_n21mfgYIcJ1qas85b.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=sgman91;48043131]This is a common view from academic feminism and sexism/racism. I agree that it's beyond stupid, but it's silly to think that TONS of people don't fully agree with her. In fact, the more educated a person is, especially in the humanities, the more likely they probably are to agree with her.[/QUOTE] I think you'll find the more versed in humanities someone is the more detached from society they are. She is only right on 1 issue and that's that women aren't represented in games, this is a thing the industry is changing and there's tons of newly announced projects right now which change this, but you cannot expect all games overnight to change, because it takes 2-3 years minimum to make games. Also most of the stuff she does argue about what's wrong with gamrs is usually pulled out of context in that she is generalizing a game based solely on one factor. Games aren't just about their lead characters

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043788]uhuh. But that isn't my point. "Calling her out" because she has a stack of games that includes things she has said negative things about doesn't prove jack. It just shows she has a ton of games that she may or may not have actually used to develop her critique. Basically your entire fuckin' point was silly and totally meaningless. [editline]24th June 2015[/editline] Using footage from others isn't exactly the end of the world. Maybe someone doesn't have a capture device? Or thought their own gameplay just wouldn't work well because it was clumsy or whatever? [/QUOTE] Well $100,000 for a project so you'd kindof expect that she'd actually play the games and use footage from the games. After being called out on it she seems to have gotten the idea but still, a bit silly. You going to ignore the video where she clearly misrepresents the game in the worst way possible to push her narrative?

[QUOTE=3221drdew;48043834]in her original fucking kickstarter she basicly stole art :suicide: [IMG]http://38.media.tumblr.com/c7d16676418c28e52d574a74f8b16be7/tumblr_inline_n21mfgYIcJ1qas85b.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] There's a lot of art in that banner she doesn't own the rights to, but can probably get away with using under fair use as she isn't selling those pictures or claiming ownership. But again, what does this have to do with her being apparently totally incapable of critiquing games? This is just banner art.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043788]Using footage from others isn't exactly the end of the world. Maybe someone doesn't have a capture device? Or thought their own gameplay just wouldn't work well because it was clumsy or whatever? Again, that point is totally useless. It's only a negative against her in that she undoubtedly didn't ask permission to use the footage. But it [I]might[/I] fall under fair use.[/QUOTE] Didn't she get about 160,000 dollars? You'd think she could have shelled out ~0.11$ of what she earned for a capture device.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48043850]Well $100,000 for a project so you'd kindof expect that she'd actually play the games and use footage from the games. After being called out on it she seems to have gotten the idea but still, a bit silly. You going to ignore the video where she clearly misrepresents the game in the worst way possible to push her narrative?[/QUOTE] I'm "ignoring" the video because I know her content and it's not actually relevant to what I was discussing. I dunno why you think holding that over me like it's some kind of axe pressed to my throat is going to do anything. Her ability to actually make the videos was not what I was talking about. I was discussing piss-poor attempts at calling her out. Pointing out her videos kinda suck isn't a piss-poor attempt at calling her out because her videos kinda suck with plenty of evidence to show that.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043883]There's a lot of art in that banner she doesn't own the rights to, but can probably get away with using under fair use as she isn't selling those pictures or claiming ownership. But again, what does this have to do with her being apparently totally incapable of critiquing games? This is just banner art.[/QUOTE]it just shows how lazy she is she cannot finish her video series with even atleast double the funds nor make her own gameplay footage and talk bullshit stop making up excuses

[QUOTE=gokiyono;48043884]Didn't she get about 160,000 dollars? You'd think she could have shelled out ~0.11$ of what she earned for a capture device.[/QUOTE] no time for that. gotta cash in on Internet outrage. (also did you miss the bit where I said maybe she felt her gameplay wasn't interesting enough to work as a background? making content isn't just slapping shit together and having it work.)

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043888]I'm "ignoring" the video because I know her content and it's not actually relevant to what I was discussing.[/QUOTE] You're annoyed that people are calling Anita a liar and accusing her of not playing videogames. The video shows that these claims have some justification behind them.

i don't think anita really cares one way or the other, i think jonathan mcintosh is the the one who holds all the beliefs and anita is just along for the ride

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48043923]i don't think anita really cares one way or the other, i think jonathan mcintosh is the the one who holds all the beliefs and anita is just along for the ride[/QUOTE] I think it started with both of them being in it for the money, then mcintosh went nuts somewhere along the line. :v:

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48043923]i don't think anita really cares one way or the other, i think jonathan mcintosh is the the one who holds all the beliefs and anita is just along for the ride[/QUOTE] She seems too inconsistent and half assed in her work to be legit about it. I think she's just in it for the cash really.

IMO, criticizing that picture is weak. There are plenty of other, way more legit, things to criticize. Whoops, it looks like I missed the new page. Ignore this post.

[QUOTE=Crimor;48043944]I think it started with both of them being in it for the money, then mcintosh went nuts somewhere along the line. :v:[/QUOTE] mcintosh has always been this way, he used to be in the adbusters crowd and as someone said before seeing 9/11 happen right in front of him kind of broke him

[QUOTE=sgman91;48043956]IMO, criticizing that picture is weak. There are plenty of other, way more legit, things to criticize.[/QUOTE]As if criticizing anything by Anita does fuck all.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48043888]I'm "ignoring" the video because I know her content and it's not actually relevant to what I was discussing. I dunno why you think holding that over me like it's some kind of axe pressed to my throat is going to do anything. Her ability to actually make the videos was not what I was talking about. I was discussing piss-poor attempts at calling her out. Pointing out her videos kinda suck isn't a piss-poor attempt at calling her out because her videos kinda suck with plenty of evidence to show that.[/QUOTE] I think the fact she used videos without permission is pretty damning but okay [editline]24th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=itisjuly;48043968]As if criticizing anything by Anita does fuck all.[/QUOTE] It doesn't do anything because the people who often defend her, generally just gloss over the weighty criticisms to her work, and focus on the weakest arguments.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48044001]I think the fact she used videos without permission is pretty damning but okay[/QUOTE] "damning" of what though? That she never played the games? What is this solidifying in your mind? She's hardly the first, and most certainly not the last person to use somebody else's footage in place of their own. Permission or not (though getting permission would be much better). You don't need to latch on to shit-tier "reasons" like that to argue she hasn't played the games. That's literally what I've been trying to say these last few posts, but people love to ignore that because "ewwww he's defending her!!!!". No defence here, I'm just simply saying that those of you who want to call her out on her shit should stop using shit reasons like "she used other peoples footage" or "she owns games she said she hates". The actual content of her arguments is shit and badly conveyed enough to do all that for you.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48044031]"damning" of what though? That she never played the games? What is this solidifying in your mind? She's hardly the first, and most certainly not the last person to use somebody else's footage in place of their own. Permission or not (though getting permission would be much better). You don't need to latch on to shit-tier "reasons" like that to argue she hasn't played the games. That's literally what I've been trying to say these last few posts, but people love to ignore that because "ewwww he's defending her!!!!". No defence here, I'm just simply saying that those of you who want to call her out on her shit should stop using shit reasons like "she used other peoples footage" or "she owns games she said she hates". The actual content of her arguments is shit and badly conveyed enough to do all that for you.[/QUOTE] Okay how about you just wrap up whatever you're getting to because that was never my point it's damning in the sense she's lazy and not even bothering to get the permissions to use videos just means she's on legally shaky ground despite EASILY being able to pay for those permissions with her mounds of kickstarter cash. Good fucking god man. You go on a tirade about something I don't even fucking care about.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;48043518]What needs to happen is someone needs to invite her onto an interview, and completely disprove her points with the contradictory evidence that she herself provides. [t]http://i.imgur.com/iyDDk.jpg[/t] Take a good look at that pile of games that she owns (and probably bought in bulk just for this photo). Notice anything off in that photo? There are games in there that she has notably criticized. She was making a big fuss over Fallout 4 when it was revealed. Oh hey, Fallout 3 and New Vegas are in that pile. Isn't that kind of off? Oh hey, there's also Mortal Kombat 9. Full of gore and violence, and skimpily dressed women. And oh hey, Grand Theft Auto IV. Wasn't she a pretty big critic of the series? [B][U]Kind of odd that she'd own and enjoy a game that she's so offended by, right?[/U][/B] And the biggest thing in here that stands out. Duke Nukem Forever. A game that, aside from being of incredibly low quality, also contains violence, gore, nudity, and awfully raunchy sexual humor. Kind of weird that a [I]feminist [/I]would be playing Duke Nukem Forever, don't you think?[/QUOTE] Have you ever been to /v/?? or any board discussing a specific game?? holy shit i hate hearing her name and not because i hate her (don't agree with her most of the time), but because for some reason it brings out the cringy "POWER to the REAL GAMERS" shitlords who feel the need to create a media circus out of every single thing she tweets

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48044041]Okay how about you just wrap up whatever you're getting to because that was never my point it's damning in the sense she's lazy and not even bothering to get the permissions to use videos just means she's on legally shaky ground despite EASILY being able to pay for those permissions with her mounds of kickstarter cash. Good fucking god man. You go on a tirade about something I don't even fucking care about.[/QUOTE] I'm still at a total fucking loss as to why people brought up her videos in the first place as I was never arguing anything to do with that. Also i've stated my point multiple times now. If you can't get it, I suggest you re-read. I'll even post it again here just so you don't have to go too far; [quote]I'm just simply saying that those of you who want to call her out on her shit should stop using shit reasons like "she used other peoples footage" or "she owns games she said she hates". The actual content of her arguments is shit and badly conveyed enough to do all that for you.[/quote]

[QUOTE=3221drdew;48043834]in her original fucking kickstarter she basicly stole art :suicide: [IMG]http://38.media.tumblr.com/c7d16676418c28e52d574a74f8b16be7/tumblr_inline_n21mfgYIcJ1qas85b.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] you people will bitch about anything i swear [editline]24th June 2015[/editline] automerge pls

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48044062]I'm still at a total fucking loss as to why people brought up her videos in the first place as I was never arguing anything to do with that. Also i've stated my point multiple times now. If you can't get it, I suggest you re-read. I'll even post it again here just so you don't have to go too far;[/QUOTE] Using other peoples footage without permission gets other peoples youtube accounts suspended, they'll lose their income from that through it. Yet, you're saying, the argument that she's a fraud using footage she has no rights to is irrelevant? I don't get it.

[QUOTE=G71tc4;48044072]you people will bitch about anything i swear [editline]24th June 2015[/editline] automerge pls[/QUOTE] because bitching about someone making money off of someones work and providing wrong info is wrong.

[QUOTE=Conscript;48043688]im not pretending that though, as i've repeatedly stated there is a dichotomy of individual and systemic racism (and yes I at least use the word 'racism' for both, just unlike the right, MRAs, GGers, etc. the left's view of it isn't a blanket equivalence). I don't pretend there isn't racism/prejudice against jews, but to act like this revelation somehow throws a wrench in the left's or the feminists' theories on the matter is pretty dumb. it's a sad strawman. some people prefer to refer to individual racism as 'chauvinism' rather than 'racism', though, because the latter has an institutional connotation to it (at least thanks to popular memory of shit like the 60s). it has its merits, i guess.[/QUOTE] could you stop lumping political parties together? your ideas are really shitty in general but it really shows how much you really think about your ideology when you automatically think right wing = bad and left wing = good. im basically a socialist and super left wing for americas standards, but you should judge ideas on merit, not on where they come from. otherwise you're committing a "[I][B][U]GENETIC FALLACY[/U]".[/B][/I]. you are basically missing every point anyone is making towards you too. nobody said there isn't racism against jews. the point is that if it's not socially acceptable to say there is no racism against jews because racism is power + prejudice, why would it be acceptable to say to white people? jews actually do have power, even their own country, and there are certainly individual jews with prejudice (just like there are racist individuals of all races). the fact is that white people are an easy target. if you need someone to blame your problems on, hell, why not white people. the only real solution to racism is a colorblind society. that is literally the only way to not be racist. by not giving a shit about race. and as a sidenote: anita is literally, factually a fraud, and has been shown many times to work very selfishly. i'd love if feminism could get a good figurehead to promote equality but anita is really shitty in almost every aspect.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48044091]Using other peoples footage without permission gets other peoples youtube accounts suspended, they'll lose their income from that through it.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you even talking about?