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welp my heart just jumped out of the roof
i'm certainly awake now
[QUOTE=Tuskin;39875934]So, basically North Korea is the schoolyard bully that threatens you for your lunch money? Lunch Money being International Aid?[/QUOTE]
They probably think NATO is the real bully
[QUOTE=TheTalon;39874715]I'm convinced America is too soft to use Nuclear weapons even if they're justified and necessary, honestly. They sure as hell aren't going to drop one on the Korean Peninsula. The real men who have balls are in the military, and the one's who control the Nukes sit behind desks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;39876494]
i mean americans suffer from frustration, depression, fatigue, anxiety, indoctrination, consumerism, and other such things.
north koreans suffer from starvation, violence, overt censorship, and constant fear.
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Pretty sure North Koreans suffer from frustration, depression, fatigue, anxiety, and indoctrination, probably moreso than Americans.
[QUOTE=Zotobom;39876661][IMG]http://puu.sh/2fVte[/IMG]
welp my heart just jumped out of the roof
i'm certainly awake now[/QUOTE]
why?
NK never un-declared war on the south, the two have been at war since the early 50's
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;39876725]why?
NK never un-declared war on the south, the two have been at war since the early 50's[/QUOTE]
Well it's possible they coulda declared on other countries.
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;39876722]Pretty sure North Koreans suffer from frustration, depression, fatigue, anxiety, and indoctrination, probably moreso than Americans.[/QUOTE]
maybe, but even then the two aren't really comparable because these feelings are caused by different types of force exerted on people.
So they Declared the armastice invalid,
Could someone tell me what is the goal here?
[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;39876722]Pretty sure North Koreans suffer from frustration, depression, fatigue, anxiety, and indoctrination, probably moreso than Americans.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.simplypsychology.org/Hierarchyofneeds.jpg[/img]
An average North Korean would more than likely belong between the second and first tier.
They can't rely on being on the second completely because the same government that 'protects' you is willing to throw you into a gulag and forget about you and the third tier, you would have friends that would probably sell you out or be government minders. Top two, I need not explain.
[QUOTE=SCRAMPAGE;39876779]So they Declared the armastice invalid,
Could someone tell me what is the goal here?[/QUOTE]
They surrender.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;39876584]
Its a lot more measured than, OH MY GOD THEY'RE CUTTING HOTLINES, PRIMING NUKES AND MOBILISING FOR WAR. Which is the trending theme in SH.[/QUOTE]
I think the neckbeards in SH have a secret hard on for WWIII/another war starting.
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Funny you should mention that.
The 'Davy Crockett' Nuclear Weapons system was designed for conflict akin to that of the Korean War, with the hordes of Chinese storming down into the guns of the Americans. Enough of a payload to kill hundreds of thousands, but only a few friendly casualties at a time.
Also, other fun fact, the 'Davy Crockett' had a larger effective radius than the gun's range. Brings a whole to meaning to "Run Like Hell"
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;39876800][img]http://www.simplypsychology.org/Hierarchyofneeds.jpg[/img]
An average North Korean would more than likely belong between the second and first tier.
They can't rely on being on the second completely because the same government that 'protects' you is willing to throw you into a gulag and forget about you and the third tier, you would have friends that would probably sell you out or be government minders. Top two, I need not explain.[/QUOTE]
Hell, even first tier would be shaky, what with the shortages.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;39876800][img]http://www.simplypsychology.org/Hierarchyofneeds.jpg[/img]
An average North Korean would more than likely belong between the second and first tier.
They can't rely on being on the second completely because the same government that 'protects' you is willing to throw you into a gulag and forget about you and the third tier, you would have friends that would probably sell you out or be government minders. Top two, I need not explain.[/QUOTE]
We just need a new pyramid for NK. Only one tier, you love the great leader, if you do so, you will reach self-actualization.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;39876800][img]http://www.simplypsychology.org/Hierarchyofneeds.jpg[/img]
An average North Korean would more than likely belong between the second and first tier.
They can't rely on being on the second completely because the same government that 'protects' you is willing to throw you into a gulag and forget about you and the third tier, you would have friends that would probably sell you out or be government minders. Top two, I need not explain.[/QUOTE]
The problem with free societies is that such freedom brings people to extreme boredom, and with that boredom and lack of innovation or new things (since they've always had such freedoms) causes people to get depressed, and to, for some reason, blame the society that, through its positives (that cause boredom and overthinking) for the problems, and not themselves when they can easily change their routine, make new friends, learn new shit, get new, more fitting hobbies, etc.
[QUOTE=parsimony;39876854]The problem with free societies is that such freedom brings people to extreme boredom, and with that boredom and lack of innovation or new things (since they've always had such freedoms) causes people to get depressed, and to, for some reason, blame the society that, through its positives (that cause boredom and overthinking) for the problems, and not themselves when they can easily change their routine, make new friends, learn new shit, get new, more fitting hobbies, etc.[/QUOTE]
I would rather be bored and live a sedentary lifestyle than being proactive and have Big Brother breath down my neck.
And how the fuck does a free society bring about a lull in innovation? The United States has been operating as a 'free' society for at least a century and you think that the creation of the internet and peanut butter doesn't count?
Nah man, fuck free society, did you not read 1984? that sounded totes bad-ass.
[QUOTE=Aetna;39876033]Lol, ironic. Do you honestly believe you are free? [B]When you wake up every morning, put on your brand name clothes, hop in your imported car, drive to your job, go home, watch tv, and sleep?[/B] Free as fuck.
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."[/QUOTE]
there's nothing wrong with any of that, in fact they're the result of 200 years of monotonically-increasing material prosperity due to free trade and specialization of labor
would you prefer to wear tatty hand-me-downs, drive a gas-guzzling car and be unemployed?
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[QUOTE=Timebomb575;39876725]why?
NK never un-declared war on the south, the two have been at war since the early 50's[/QUOTE]
but they're (were?) de facto at peace
there's no reason you can't declare war twice
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;39874574]I hate how uneasy this makes me. On one hand nk is known to troll around, on the other hand they havnt gone this far in such a short period of time before.[/QUOTE]
Kim Jong Un's World of Warcraft account was banned.
And now he's chafing for some action.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;39876908]I would rather be bored and live a sedentary lifestyle than being proactive and have Big Brother breath down my neck.
And how the fuck does a free society bring about a lull in innovation? The United States has been operating as a 'free' society for at least a century and you think that the creation of the internet and peanut butter doesn't count?[/QUOTE]
What I mean is that people get spoiled. My thoughts are harder to keep track of and keep coherent while on a phone, maybe that's just me
[QUOTE=parsimony;39876854]The problem with free societies is that such freedom brings people to extreme boredom, and with that boredom and lack of innovation or new things (since they've always had such freedoms) causes people to get depressed, and to, for some reason, blame the society that, through its positives (that cause boredom and overthinking) for the problems, and not themselves when they can easily change their routine, make new friends, learn new shit, get new, more fitting hobbies, etc.[/QUOTE]
but that isn't true at all, free societies have always been bastions of innovation and fun, from the athenian democracy, to the medieval/renaissance italian city-republics, to the united states of america, and that's just from my limited eurocentric knowledge.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39876917]but they're (were?) de facto at peace[/QUOTE]
Damnit, I knew EA and Sim City 2013 was behind all of that !
[QUOTE=parsimony;39876854]The problem with free societies is that such freedom brings people to extreme boredom, and with that boredom and lack of innovation or new things (since they've always had such freedoms) causes people to get depressed, and to, for some reason, blame the society that, through its positives (that cause boredom and overthinking) for the problems, and not themselves when they can easily change their routine, make new friends, learn new shit, get new, more fitting hobbies, etc.[/QUOTE]
i disagree, the depression and frustration in the usa comes from lack of freedom and the average person's lack of control of their own life. north korea lives on the 1st tier of the pyramid, the average american lives on the 2nd.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39877010]i disagree, the depression and frustration in the usa comes from lack of freedom and the average person's lack of control of their own life. north korea lives on the 1st tier of the pyramid, the average american lives on the 2nd.[/QUOTE]
So where does China fit on it?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39876996]but that isn't true at all, free societies have always been bastions of innovation and fun, from the athenian democracy, to the medieval/renaissance italian city-republics, to the united states of america, and that's just from my limited eurocentric knowledge.[/QUOTE]
I meant more basic innovation, people feel that their lives never change because the base of their lives has been stable, so they're willing to discount their gracious position in life. I don't know why I'm having such a hard time putting this into words, but I agree with you regardless.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39877010]i disagree, the depression and frustration in the usa comes from lack of freedom and the average person's lack of control of their own life. north korea lives on the 1st tier of the pyramid, the average american lives on the 2nd.[/QUOTE]
the hierarchy of needs is pseudoscience though, it's meaningless to make a comparison by referring to it
[QUOTE=yawmwen;39877010]i disagree, the depression and frustration in the usa comes from lack of freedom and the average person's lack of control of their own life. north korea lives on the 1st tier of the pyramid, the average american lives on the 2nd.[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure most Americans have trouble with self realization, it's a common part of our culture, so no, we're at the top
[QUOTE=TheTalon;39875590]In the 40's. It's 2013. You can't even say the word 'Islamicist' without panties getting twisted, and then people going Oh Sorry Sir! In the 40's Men were Men. Today there aren't many left[/QUOTE][img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9fs6ux0bq1qbnnp7o1_400.png[/img]
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[QUOTE=parsimony;39877039]I am pretty sure most Americans have trouble with self realization, it's a common part of our culture, so no, we're at the top[/QUOTE]
our culture alienates us from family and friends. our cities are ridden with crime that causes a lack of security and safety, plus a fear mongering media helps to erode our sense of stability as well.
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;39877028]the hierarchy of needs is pseudoscience though, it's meaningless to make a comparison by referring to it[/QUOTE]
yea i agree. someone else brought it up so i decided to refer to it. i don't really look at it with any actual weight.
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[QUOTE=Sobotnik;39877021]So where does China fit on it?[/QUOTE]
if you want a strict interpretation, then china would fit in with the usa.
that is where the pyramid's ability to analyze psychology, need, and fullfillment starts to break down. there are obvious differences between the economic and social situations of someone in china and someone in the usa.
Shame for the people who will die, But at least finally we'll have a unified korea, under the souths' leadership.
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