It's funny, I clicked on the misleading title thinking "knowing Texas he probably threatened/tried to shoot them", I read the article and it turns out he did.
[QUOTE=areolop;34052422]your not even from the states and you are claiming that Texas is racist.[/QUOTE]
yeah except i was born and raised in Florida (hicktown/similar stereotypes present)
I've only been in Estonia for less than 11 months, even if a 4nr called out the people of Texas for their obvious bias of races, what would it matter -- did you think it would make it any less true? you sound like a retarded Texan
see: Lamar Smith (SOPA creator), rick perry, entire bush family, crazy side of ron paul
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34052853]yeah except i was born and raised in Florida (hicktown/similar stereotypes present)
I've only been in Estonia for less than 11 months, even if a 4nr called out the people of Texas for their obvious bias of races, what would it matter -- did you think it would make it any less true? you sound like a retarded Texan
see: rick perry, entire bush family, crazy side of ron paul[/QUOTE]
lol
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34052853]yeah except i was born and raised in Florida (hicktown/similar stereotypes present)
I've only been in Estonia for less than 11 months, even if a 4nr called out the people of Texas for their obvious bias of races, what would it matter -- did you think it would make it any less true? you sound like a retarded Texan
see: Lamar Smith (SOPA creator), rick perry, entire bush family, crazy side of ron paul[/QUOTE]
"some politicians i hate were born and raised in Texas, therefore, Texas is racist"
[editline]4th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=squids_eye;34052606]There is a witness who claims to have heard gunshots but it said that they don't know whether he had fired the gun or why he had it in the first place. For all we know the kid could have found the gun on the floor after the real owner had dropped it and got shot by trigger happy cops, though that is probably unlikely.
[editline]4th January 2012[/editline]
Also the witness was in 7th grade, he might have heard a loud bang and assumed it was a gun because the school was already on lockdown.[/QUOTE]
Yes lets holster our weapons and calmly ask the gun-toting kid where he found teh gun, if he's going to shoot anyone, if he really fired the weapon, etc etc.
Shit nevermind I found the school name.
Just hope that cop recovers from the image.
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34052974][IMG]http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6752/1324042223375.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Just stop
[QUOTE=lolo;34052980]Shit nevermind I found the school name.
Just hope that cop recovers from the image.
[/QUOTE]
Most cops retire after being involved with a shooting. Its [B]very[/B] traumatic.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;34052955]"some politicians i hate were born and raised in Texas, therefore, Texas is racist"
[editline]4th January 2012[/editline]
Yes lets holster our weapons and calmly ask the gun-toting kid where he found teh gun, if he's going to shoot anyone, if he really fired the weapon, etc etc.[/QUOTE]
You could do that but it would be down right retarded and not at all what I was suggesting. My point is there is that until there is more information there is no point coming in here saying whether it was justified or not. The kid probably had it coming, but what with the lack of information we can't be sure.
I wonder if being able to fly in DCS:A-10C means I'd be able to operate the real thing
probably
[QUOTE=areolop;34053020]Most cops retire after being involved with a shooting. Its [B]very[/B] traumatic.[/QUOTE]
why did they become a cop then, aren't those idiots trained for those situations?
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053120]why did they become a cop then, aren't those idiots trained for those situations?[/QUOTE]
Words cannot describe your dumbness here.
[QUOTE=areolop;34053149]Words cannot describe your dumbness here.[/QUOTE]
then go back to fast threads you jew cocksuck, I asked a legitimate question being somebody who has never once in my life been involved in the field of law enforcement. They wanted their gun and badge and now they have it, why can't they hold their own in a hostile situation
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[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053120]why did they become a cop then, aren't those idiots trained for those situations?[/QUOTE]
No cops are not trained to morally deal with murder. Shooting a dummy =/= shooting a human.
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053181]then go back to fast threads you [B]jew cocksuck[/B], I asked a legitimate question being somebody who has never once in my life been involved in the field of law enforcement. They wanted their gun and badge and now they have it, why can't they hold their own in a hostile situation[/QUOTE]
Im glad we have established you are in 5th grade.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34053198]No cops are not trained to morally deal with murder. Shooting a dummy =/= shooting a human.[/QUOTE]
its a given that they might be required to act in that manner when deemed appropriate, it's part of the job description. It doesn't matter if they can't accept it "morally" -- if they shot at somebody, they probably deserved it.
It just doesn't make sense if (hypothetically) for example a cop ends up killing a gunman during a parking-lot shootout or something that they would be in tears and resign as a policeman.
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;34053239]Im glad we have established you are in 5th grade.[/QUOTE]
guilty as charged officer, please dont shoot me and then resign because you're afraid of being punished by those in the bible
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053255]its a given that they might be required to act in that manner when deemed appropriate, it's part of the job description. It doesn't matter if they can't accept it "morally" -- if they shot at somebody, they probably deserved it.
It just doesn't make sense if (hypothetically) for example a cop ends up killing a gunman during a parking-lot shootout or something that they would be in tears and resign as a policeman.[/QUOTE]
Makes perfect sense to me. Every person is different and takes things differently. Maybe he won't go insane if he kills a murderer, but I guess killing a child could be quite traumatic, especially if you have kids of your own.
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053255]its a given that they might be required to act in that manner when deemed appropriate, it's part of the job description. It doesn't matter if they can't accept it "morally", if they shot at somebody, they probably deserved it.[/QUOTE]
[I]Really.[/I] CISM, is what your looking for. Critical Incident Stress Management. Do you know how hard it is to kill another human being, especially if its a child and you have your own children? Everytime you look at your kids you see the dead one.
[QUOTE=areolop;34053330][I]Really.[/I] CISM, is what your looking for. Critical Incident Stress Management. Do you know how hard it is to kill another human being, especially if its a child and you have your own children? Everytime you look at your kids you see the dead one.[/QUOTE]
generalizations ahoy!
[editline]5th January 2012[/editline]
arh me cap'n, I've spotted wha' appears to be arh large storm o' dubious anecdotal evidence
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053255]
guilty as charged officer, please dont shoot me and then resign because you're afraid of being punished by those in the bible[/QUOTE]
So cops who feel guilt over killing another human being, in this case a child, are only doing so because of being afraid of punishment by god?
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;34053386]So cops who feel guilt over killing another human being, in this case a child, are only doing so because of being afraid of punishment by god?[/QUOTE]
it's an irrational moral guilt, so yes, mostly attributed to people thinking they've committed the ultimate sin and in turn, going to hell. (Texas is even more prone to this behavior thanks to traditionalist bible-belt bullshit)
Anybody would feel guilty for killing a child for a period of time, but if it was justified (i.e. this thread) then I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Having a kid threaten other kids with guns is just as bad as having anyone threaten kids with guns.
[QUOTE=areolop;34053330][I]Really.[/I] CISM, is what your looking for. Critical Incident Stress Management. Do you know how hard it is to kill another human being, especially if its a child and you have your own children? Everytime you look at your kids you see the dead one.[/QUOTE]
After killing a child is the only thing I could agree with on that point, but if it's a 45 yo PTS vietnam vet going crazy with his napalm flamethrower at my local Mc Donald's, I don't want to doubt that the cops are going to put him down (do their job)
[QUOTE=Contag;34053368]generalizations ahoy!
[editline]5th January 2012[/editline]
arh me cap'n, I've spotted wha' appears to be arh large storm o' dubious anecdotal evidence[/QUOTE]
It's a generalization because it's true. People who are not sociopaths would have problems with dealing with a murder of a child.
[editline]4th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053426]Killing a child is the only thing I could agree with on that point, but if it's a 45 yo PTS vietnam vet going crazy with his napalm flamethrower at my local Mc Donald's, I don't want to doubt that the cops are going to put him down (do their job)[/QUOTE]
No one's resigning over that though.
Out of Context.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34053428]People who are not sociopaths would have problems with dealing with a murder of a child.[/QUOTE]
why?
people used to kill infants all the time, when they weren't considered proper people because it was believed that a person had to have some kind of mind
[QUOTE=Nikota;34049681]And that officer never slept again.[/QUOTE]
I bet he loved it.
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34053426]it's an irrational moral guilt, so yes, mostly attributed to people thinking they've committed the ultimate sin and in turn, going to hell
After killing a child is the only thing I could agree with on that point, but if it's a 45 yo PTS vietnam vet going crazy with his napalm flamethrower at my local Mc Donald's, I don't want to doubt that the cops are going to put him down (do their job)[/QUOTE]
Im not sure where you are getting this argument at. The cops in the story opened fire and killed the kid because he had a weapon. Someone commented on how traumatic it must be to kill another person and you go on about how cops are suppose to be able to kill, [B]which they did[/B].
[QUOTE=squids_eye;34050817]You are right that it is necessary to shoot to kill in some situations, I'm arguing that it is possible that it wasn't the right thing to do in this one. None of us can really do anything but speculate until more information is released.
[editline]4th January 2012[/editline]
They are cops, it is their job to risk their life to some extent in order to protect civilian lives.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, civilians, IE innocent bystanders. Not the person bringing a gun to an elementary school.
[QUOTE=Contag;34053471]why?
people used to kill infants all the time, when they weren't considered proper people because it was believed that a person had to have some kind of mind[/QUOTE]When? Thousand years ago? Two thousand years ago? Today we are not used to doing such things.
Are you seriously that dense or just a troll?
[QUOTE=znk666;34051281]Why am i not surprised about the fact that this happened in Texas?[/QUOTE]
probably because you're dumb
[editline]4th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Stick it in her pooper;34051772]at first I was outraged, but then it hit me
[IMG]http://www.blackenterprise.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2011/12/black-child-in-school-375x325.jpg[/IMG]
everyday Texas racism at play here
Why are we surprised?
edit:
if you know anything, most Texas stereotypes are accurate for a reason, stop trying to defend them[/QUOTE]
wow excellent post m8 a+
i must have missed the part of the article where the cops said "drop the gun you nigger" and THEN shot him
ohhh wait a minute, they didn't say that, they shot him because he brought a gun to school
the article doesnt even mention his fucking race come on
Arguments aside, since we really don't have the [B]full [/B]story (yet) I can't make an actual conclusion, I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to be fucking pissed if it turns out that he was killed before they could have subdued him/talked him into surrendering his weapon. The lack of details in this article is disturbing
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;34053515]When? Thousand years ago? Two thousand years ago? Today we are not used to doing such things.
Are you seriously that dense or just a troll?[/QUOTE]
Am I seriously that dense?
Are you for real?
I'm not the idiot that is making huge generalizations
killing children and not being broken about it doesn't make you a fucking sociopath
the world isn't nearly that simple
Say you're fighting a war against a state that uses child soldiers, and you have to shoot them to survive, and you feel okay because you don't have to a choice. Does that make you a sociopath?
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