• After a 1996 Mass Shooting, Australia Enacted Strict Gun Laws. It Hasn't Had a Similar Massacre Sinc
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And that may be fine and good, but I see no reason that the odd crazed gunman should stop me from being able to own firearms.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;38879302]No it doesn't, but at the same time you're talking about a country where there are a good number of people that would rather die than give up their precious firearms. You can't just do what was done in Australia and expect no repercussions. I'm pretty sure states like Texas would pretty much say FU to the federal government.[/QUOTE] That's where these shootings come in handy. If it were decided to try and do 'something', take some step in the right direction right now, there'd be far more public support than let's say two weeks ago. No one is expecting no repercussions either, but at some point something has to be done, you can't keep saying that there are too many guns to try this, because as you said yourself, many more guns keep being bought and bought. You can't keep saying 'but texas/rednecks/gun owners' won't just take it, because that does nothing to help fix the issue. You have to start somewhere, and I don't see how tighter gun restrictions and a gun buyback can't be that first start. Of course there are other issues that need addressing, but ignoring a lack of gun control because some people think it isn't the main problem won't help anyone. [editline]18th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Groat;38879372]And that may be fine and good, but I see no reason that the odd crazed gunman should stop me from being able to own firearms.[/QUOTE] Okay.
We don't even have the resources to get drugs off the streets and people suggest banning fire arms in the United States. Theirs no way it would be remotely effective, the resources needed for such an act just aren't available.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;38879174]I would be surprised if that is true.[/QUOTE] It really is not hard to get a hole of illegal firearms in Australia. I would tell you stories but I don't really want them publicly known.
technically a gun ban [I]could[/I] work, if done correctly Canada has stricter gun laws compared to America, and no one goes "but they can just smuggle from America!" Heck America is like one of the top 5 gun making countries, we arm the entire Western Hemisphere pretty much. We arm [I]Mexico[/I], so you could never say we'd smuggle from Mexico. And we can't smuggle from Canada either because they are supposed to be smuggling from us according to the smuggle theory used against anti-gun arguments. Ultimately our gun companies are the only things stopping America from being gun free in the future (over time preexisting guns will either break, or ammo won't be sold if ammo was also illegal) But this would come at the cost of one America's favorite hobby's. I won't give a value judgement there cause a shit storm would come.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;38881572]technically a gun ban [I]could[/I] work, if done correctly Canada has stricter gun laws compared to America, and no one goes "but they can just smuggle from America!" Heck America is like one of the top 5 gun making countries, we arm the entire Western Hemisphere pretty much. We arm [I]Mexico[/I], so you could never say we'd smuggle from Mexico. And we can't smuggle from Canada either because they are supposed to be smuggling from us according to the smuggle theory used against anti-gun arguments. Ultimately our gun companies are the only things stopping America from being gun free in the future (over time preexisting guns will either break, or ammo won't be sold if ammo was also illegal) But this would come at the cost of one America's favorite hobby's. I won't give a value judgement there cause a shit storm would come.[/QUOTE] There is no illegal gun trade into the US, Mexico, or Canada because there is no need for one because guns are regularly available. Remove that and you will find there will be a trade for them.
Well, Australia also has an actual mental healthcare system, so guns or not shootings would be much, much rarer.
Australia doesn't have a gun culture like the United States does.
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