The artist (Ai Weiwei) is still alive. I'd really like to know how that determined the value to be that high.
[b]GOD[/b] how I hate these fuckers.
These people pop up every couple of years, defacing priceless (and irreplaceable) pieces of artwork that the public could be otherwise appreciating simply because they want to push their version of "art" on everyone else. Throw the goddamn book at him for Grand Theft: Stealing a priceless article of art from future generations.
Fuck it, I like him.
What's interesting about Ai Weiwei is that he takes ancient vases, often hundreds or thousands of years old, paints them, and calls it art.
This guy, apparently, smashes these vases and calls it art.
Yay vandalism!
[QUOTE=woolio1;43952291]What's interesting about Ai Weiwei is that he takes ancient vases, often hundreds or thousands of years old, paints them, and calls it art.
This guy, apparently, smashes these vases and calls it art.
Yay vandalism![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]A police affidavit says Caminero told officers he broke the vase to protest the museum's lack of local artist displays.[/QUOTE]
Even worse.
Maybe that guy likes/asociates himself with Futurism.
IIRC they rejected any past form of art, to the point they wanted to burn libraries and museums.
They believed that past holds us back, and we should be free from it if we want to truly progress.
But who am I kidding :v:
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If the vase wasn't his- then there's no way that you could justify this to make it okay.
This was just clear-cut vandalism. If you wanna smash something expensive, that's totally fine but don't be a fucking douchebag and break something that isn't yours.
He did this in protest of the museum not having enough local artist? Yeah I highly doubt that they will now.
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[I]~Aeropostale.... So artistic.~[/I]
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;43951619]Wow those vases look like they were stolen from a workshop class and then had a 5 minute paint job. I bet there's some real deep meaning behind the concept but seriously 1 million dollar for a vase that was made in just a day?[/QUOTE]
BUT THEY'RE ~~~ARTSIY~~~
[QUOTE=Zambies!;43951001]Ughhh why destroy things[/QUOTE]
that's such a vague question. why create things? if you can create shit then surely there's good reason to destroy as well
What a philistine.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;43951509]I don't understand how you willingly can destroy history.[/QUOTE]
Here's how you can willingly destroy history:
1. Be Yahoo!
2. Buy GeoCities
3. Shut down GeoCities
[QUOTE=Desuh;43951064]He seems to be a dedicated fan
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The history fanatic inside me just had a heart attack.
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;43951619]Wow those vases look like they were stolen from a workshop class and then had a 5 minute paint job. I bet there's some real deep meaning behind the concept but seriously 1 million dollar for a vase that was made in just a day?[/QUOTE]
The value of a piece of art is measured in how much people desire it, but sometimes artists get ahead of themselves and put a price on something that's waaaaaay too high for it :v:
[QUOTE=ColdWave;43953006]The history fanatic inside me just had a heart attack.[/QUOTE]
This is why I'm not a fan of Ai Weiwei. He's as much a vandal as this man, but his work is on display in the Guggenheim!
This has been entirely misinterpreted. He was upset that the museum had modern clay ~art~ by a jerk that destroyed ancient art (the guy in the pot dropping photo), instead of anything of value to local culture or at least REAL art.
Weiwei destroyed ancient pottery, and this new guy destroyed Weiwei's crap pottery to protest it having so much attention and value.
[QUOTE=bitches;43953558]This has been entirely misinterpreted. He was upset that the museum had modern clay ~art~ by a jerk that destroyed ancient art (the guy in the pot dropping photo), instead of anything of value to local culture or at least REAL art.
Weiwei destroyed ancient pottery, and this new guy destroyed Weiwei's crap pottery to protest it having so much attention and value.[/QUOTE]
Except part of WeiWei's "art" is that he paints hundred+ year old vases.
So the protester smashed a priceless artifact because someone else had painted it. It's like tearing down the Hagia Sofia because the Mongols came and remodeled.
What schmuck would pay $1,000,000 for a vase
let alone that one
[QUOTE=gk99;43953639]What schmuck would pay $1,000,000 for a vase
let alone that one[/QUOTE]
Art has arbitrary value. We've established this.
So if a man burn the painting of Mona Lisa, you will be fine with that? Those pots were hand crafted and painted by someone. How would you like it if you made a painting or sculpture only to have some idiot destroy it as a protest? You'll be angry too
[QUOTE=BCell;43954943]So if a man burn the painting of Mona Lisa, you will be fine with that? Those pots were hand crafted and painted by someone. How would you like it if you made a painting or sculpture only to have some idiot destroy it as a protest? You'll be angry too[/QUOTE]
the guy who made this vase got famous by smashing thousand year old pieces of history for attention, i don't really give a shit about his vases dude.
[QUOTE=BananaMed;43952516]Maybe that guy likes/asociates himself with Futurism.
IIRC they rejected any past form of art, to the point they wanted to burn libraries and museums.
They believed that past holds us back, and we should be free from it if we want to truly progress.
But who am I kidding :v:[/QUOTE]
To be honest the ones who wanted to actively burn down the past were a minority. Most believed humans would do it themselves. Hence they belief that war is a cleansing of humanity (said belief lasted until the first world war, after which the movement kinda collapsed, in part due to the horrors of the war).
Plus most futurists actually were good artists and based their creations on motion.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;43955014]the guy who made this vase got famous by smashing thousand year old pieces of history for attention, i don't really give a shit about his vases dude.[/QUOTE]
A: that one photo isn't what really made Ai Weiwei famous
B: it's a cool statement
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also whenever people talk about expensive pieces of art they're like "that looks nice but a million dollars??" and "there's no way that's worth that much money, it's ugly"
the price of works of art has virtually nothing to do with their artistic merit or the cost of their creation, pretty much; it's just a way for the ultra-wealthy to conspicuously consume. Those prices are all just the result of complex negotiations and posturing between collectors, dealers, museum curators, and auction houses.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;43951509]I don't understand how you willingly can destroy history.[/QUOTE]
Wasnt there a young scientist who cut down the world oldest tree just for a bit of research?
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is there a story behind this??
[QUOTE=latin_geek;43951445]It could be more than that, but aren't museums fairly independent entities that can decide what they want to show/what brings people into em?[/QUOTE]
They are and this guy decided that they were wrong and wanted to show them that they were wrong.
[QUOTE=Eltro102;43951490]i think he can spin it into an interesting question - what's the punishment for destroying something irreplaceable with no real way to value it in a society which condemns vindictiveness?[/QUOTE]
You break it you buy it. You say your art is better? You better hope your shit sells because your credit rating is fucked until you can pay that off.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43952199]Wasn't he trying to point out this shit is being destroyed everyday by the Chinese government? Ai wei wei is one of the few artists that I have any interest in.[/QUOTE]
Ancient dynasties do not lie to blame for that.
[QUOTE=pentium;43955739]You better hope your shit sells because your credit rating is fucked until you can pay that off.[/QUOTE]
I really doubt he cares about credit rating much
The problem is that when a Museum isn't focusing on local artists is that there's a problem.
Not on the Museum's end, but actually the Artists.
Art isn't about creating something to showcase it. Yes, it IS a bonus for it to be placed up in a museum for others to comment and critique, but the main reason one should become an Artist is that one enjoys doing it for THEMSELVES.
Not only that, but the most probable reason is that the reason why the Museum isn't hosting local art is because they're found wanting, inferior and typically not as enticing as foreign art that was dragged for miles to show it.
If the local art is inferior to the art in the museum, either get good or don't bitch. Two options.
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