G20 protestors in Pennsylvania met by resistance from riot police.
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[QUOTE=Conscript;17488873]nice to know. though i'm curious as to why then he received donations from businessmen[/QUOTE]
Is he trying to destroy private America or serve it, make up yer fekkin' minds.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;17489656]
Besides, if we were truely 100% capitalist, well then we'd have to rely on private security companies for protection. And I doubt that would be a good thing.[/QUOTE]
There is a neighborhood not that far away from that was patrolled by private security guards at least two years back because of the crime rate. That creeped me out.
Speaking of scary things..
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This last one really gets me.
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usually I do not subscribe to these NWO theories
but did three men belonging to the military not just stuff a young man into an unmarked car and drive away
holee shit
[QUOTE=Daman3456;17492147][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qhLcw8N04A[/media]
usually I do not subscribe to these NWO theories
but did three men belonging to the military not just stuff a young man into an unmarked car and drive away
holee shit[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;17489566]Alright lets get some things straight. Bush was by many definitions, a democrat, even though he called himself a republican. This assumption is made due to the fact that republicans like to [i]shrink[/i] (ie. cut back government programs/reduce spending) government, and democrats like to [i]grow[/i] (ie. spend lots of money) government. Bush grew the government and spent shitloads, which is why some people are confused.[/QUOTE]
Bulking up the military has been a focus of the U.S. Republican party since it's inception, and he didn't even outspend other Republican presidents on non-military affairs. Plus, part of his non-military spending was on the 100k + "independent contractors" integrated with the U.S. forces in Iraq. So it's a bit of a lie to say his spending was egregious and not in line with party ideals- his spending shitloads on the military while trying to support military supply-side and civilian trickle-down economics like a mad fool was wholly Republican.
It sounds to me like you're the one confused here.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;17489566]Obama is a "democrat" but leaning towards socialist. Making things like healthcare government run is the idea of "ism" (socialism/communism).[/QUOTE]
No it isn't. Both Republicans and Democrats agree that there needs to be a certain "safety net" available, the difference is in how it's paid for, who it covers, etc. Employer based vs. single-payer, that sort of thing.
By the by, Obama isn't proposing making healthcare "socialized" or "universal" or solely government run or any of that other bullshit you're being scared into believing.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;17489566]He is by very few means, a capitalist. The whole "bailout" thing was not what he should have done. That is [b][i][u]not[/u][/i][/b] a capitalist thing to do. A true capitalistic ideal is that when a business fucks up, it fails, therefore creating an area for a new business to replace it. No free giveaways, no bailouts. If you fuck up your business, you shouldn't get a free ride. Even if it isn't your fault, the idea remains the same. Sorry, but [b][i]that[/i][/b] is capitalism. If you believe that the bailouts were justified, then you lean towards socialist.[/QUOTE]
The U.S. has always been a [i]regulated[/i] capitalist state. Not truly "hands-off." Ever. Period. Both major parties desire certain levels of regulation to keep things afloat, more so in times of crisis. Don't do that, and people will abuse other people. Bad things will happen to the state as a whole. Hell, part of the U.S.'s founding fathers were virtuous republicans who thought serving the commonwealth was just as important as serving yourself, or more so, and that your individual rights were protected so you could go make money, and then pour it back into your community and the state. Others thought you had a right to go and make money, and do as you saw fit with it, because commerce would inspire everyone involved to greatness. We run on a compromise. Always have, always will.
As for letting the economy be the ultimate judge of what businesses live or die...besides the fact that we as a nation regulate the economy to protect both your individual rights and the success of the commonwealth, you're proposing that everyone burned in the recession deserves to go under, which isn't true. Part of the recession was caused by lying, fraud, etc.- abuse of the system. You're essentially saying that people who are ripped off or defrauded deserve to go under because...they weren't smart enough to see it coming, or what?
And the real fucking kicker- why this shit is so hilarious to me- is that the bailouts aren't "free." It's surprising how many people don't know this, but the money doesn't come without strings attached. In some instances it's expected to be paid back like a regular loan. And while their are certainly instances of money being given to the wrong people for the wrong reasons (GM, for example, deserves to die), we're certainly nowhere near the much-over hyped worst case scenario of being trillions upon trillions in debt because we're spending the maximum limit allotted by the bailout legislation.
It's money shifting hands and coming back, not being given away freely by a bunch of monkeys with the intent of having poor Joe Taxpayer foot the bill. A good member of the U.S. Republican party is concerned because of the way these bailouts are being handled, with the fear that they could be abused, or simply used poorly thanks to standard political incompetence. A DURR HURR OBAMA'S A COMMIE MOOZLIM "Republican" is concerned because it has a small, mostly vestigial frontal lobe and startles easily.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;17489566]and yea, "spreading the wealth." There are so many things wrong with that, I don't even wanna get into it.[/QUOTE]
Particularly after he gets done explaining his views on alternative methods of taxation, and explains why he thinks "spreading the wealth" [highlight]would be profitable for the guy he was taking it from?[/highlight] Did you miss the entire "high taxes compensated for by more customers able to afford your services" pitch?
Hell, think about it for more than one second. Lowering taxes for certain groups and raising them for others isn't "spreading" literally, it's a figurative way of saying "I want to make people on the bottom able to afford more stuff, they buy more stuff, you make more money, everyone is happy." You're demonizing the statement to mean "GRRAAAAH IMMA TAKE YO MONIEZ AND GIVE 'EM TO POOR PEOPLE! FUCK YOU, HARDWORKING AMERICANS!" Instead of, you know, the potentially disagreeable but still wholly rational "GRAAAAAAH, IMMA MAKE YOU PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE TAXES AND LET THESE PEOPLE PAY A BIT LESS, SO THAT THEY CAN END UP PUTTING MORE MONEY AND PERSONAL EFFORT INTO THE ECONOMY THUS BEING PROFITABLE FOR EVERYONE!"
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;17487668]Oh no! Riot Police fighting Rioters? They must be up to something![/QUOTE]
because they were rioting, right?
Those sonic things don't seem too efficient given that they sound like a loud car alarm.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;17489656][b] I mean, we have government controlled Police, nobody complains about that.[/b][/QUOTE]
That's because its part of the Executive branch of the Government's Job, or so says the Constitution.
[QUOTE=markg06;17493287]Those sonic things don't seem too efficient given that they sound like a loud car alarm.[/QUOTE]
Judging by the number of people holding their heads it seems like it's doing something. Besides, they may be on a frequency the camera didn't pick up, or our speakers didn't play. Or maybe they just play it for a really long time until everyone get's a headache and goes home.
This is nothing compared to the shit we had go down in london.
Greece holds the crown for awesome riots/riot police in my mind.
[QUOTE=Deadollie;17495984]This is nothing compared to the shit we had go down in london.[/QUOTE]
Probably because everyone is scared shit less of the riot police. The London riot police looked like damned guys in trashbags with helmets on.
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I love all the people on Youtube crying "FACISTS! POLICE STATE! PIGS! YOU HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THIS!"
Its funny crushing their little shithead beliefs and destroying their notions of civility and good nature with fact and honesty. Wanna protest? Get a permit.
This makes me want to join the riot police.
I've always thought being a riot officer would be pretty awesome. Some of the stuff they do is pretty reminiscent of ancient warfare, it's great. Except for the teargas. I'd prefer the standard, head on, legion-style beat down though.
[QUOTE=Zeddy;17500927]
I love all the people on Youtube crying "FACISTS! POLICE STATE! PIGS! YOU HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THIS!"
Its funny crushing their little shithead beliefs and destroying their notions of civility and good nature with fact and honesty. Wanna protest? Get a permit.
This makes me want to join the riot police.[/QUOTE]
angst much?
I would love to see the polices riot gear IRL
not the way that they are beating the shit out of my. Rather talking to some police dude.
BTW I don't know how the law is in america but in Germany it is illegal to demonstrate with your face covered.
[QUOTE=Conscript;17504322]angst much?[/QUOTE]
no
riot police = automatic cool
god get it rightttttttttttttttttt
[QUOTE=Zeddy;17500927]Probably because everyone is scared shit less of the riot police. The London riot police looked like damned guys in trashbags with helmets on.
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I love all the people on Youtube crying "FACISTS! POLICE STATE! PIGS! YOU HAS NO RIGHT TO DO THIS!"
Its funny crushing their little shithead beliefs and destroying their notions of civility and good nature with fact and honesty. Wanna protest? Get a permit.
This makes me want to join the riot police.[/QUOTE]
read his myspace
his favourite activities are pizza and beating up nerds
[QUOTE=thisispain;17504624]read his myspace
his favourite activities are pizza and beating up nerds[/QUOTE]
Who's? Mine? I have a MySpace page?
it's a joke
you ruined it
good job loser
what a fag
Oh god the guy with the guy fawkes mask got arrested.
Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=Conscript;17504322]angst much?[/QUOTE]
who says that
are you a little scene kid?
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;17489566]Alright lets get some things straight. Bush was by many definitions, a democrat, even though he called himself a republican. This assumption is made due to the fact that republicans like to [i]shrink[/i] (ie. cut back government programs/reduce spending) government, and democrats like to [i]grow[/i] (ie. spend lots of money) government. Bush grew the government and spent shitloads, which is why some people are confused.
Obama is a "democrat" but leaning towards socialist. Making things like healthcare government run is the idea of "ism" (socialism/communism). He is by very few means, a capitalist. The whole "bailout" thing was not what he should have done. That is [b][i][u]not[/u][/i][/b] a capitalist thing to do. A true capitalistic ideal is that when a business fucks up, it fails, therefore creating an area for a new business to replace it. No free giveaways, no bailouts. If you fuck up your business, you shouldn't get a free ride. Even if it isn't your fault, the idea remains the same. Sorry, but [b][i]that[/i][/b] is capitalism. If you believe that the bailouts were justified, then you lean towards socialist.
and yea, "spreading the wealth." There are so many things wrong with that, I don't even wanna get into it.
EDIT: I'd also like to know why everyone thinks that republicans are nazi's, because that honestly makes no sense at all.... Just give me a few good reasons.[/QUOTE]
Okay so Bush was a democrat? What? And do you even know what socialism is?
[QUOTE=JLea;17505600]who says that
are you a little scene kid?[/QUOTE]
what?
[QUOTE=JLea;17505600]who says that
are you a little scene kid?[/QUOTE]
ahahhaha
"I AM TAKING SHELTER IN THE ORIGINAL HOTDOG SHOPPE. POLICE ARE FIRING ON STUDENTS WITH RUBBER BULLETS, TEARGAS OUTSIDE."
shit just got real.
this reminds me of seattle in 1999, just that the police had a bigger "no bullshit" policy. anyone else remember that?-- it was pretty crazy down here.
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they even made a movie about it, saw it at the seattle filmfest-
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Well, if they didn't have a permit, so the police got all jumpy.
Leave that turtle alone!
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They should have put the megaphones back to back to see how loud it would be
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