Russia invades Ukraine. Roads and airports being blocked and occupied

[Niklasgunner]

They are not only talking about Crimea, but Ukraine in general.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/5Xc4MTk.png[/img]

[Videvik]

so I'm guessing the whole independence referendum ain't happening??

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=NotMeh;44090290]so I'm guessing the whole independence referendum ain't happening??[/QUOTE]

it is on march 30th
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1371042[/url]

[Vosk]

I really hope that Europe and the US on't just go "We will write an angry letter." Ukraine needs help if Russia actually invades.

[Videvik]

[QUOTE=Stroma;44090297]it is on march 30th
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1371042[/url][/QUOTE]
yeah but will the world last that long?

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=NotMeh;44090305]yeah but will the world last that long?[/QUOTE]

there's no reason to imply that russia is going to head straight to kiev shooting everything they see along the way, it's just fear mongering

[Niklasgunner]

Wow, they are straight up camparing this situation to 2008 georgia to "avoid genocide".

[Joazzz]

[QUOTE=VOSK;44090303]I really hope that Europe and the US on't just go "We will write an angry letter." Ukraine needs help if Russia actually invades.[/QUOTE]not sure about Murica but somehow i can see EU not giving a damn

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=Niklas;44090341]Wow, they are straight up camparing this situation to 2008 georgia.[/QUOTE]

because russians are apparently going to hand out passports to ethnic russians and [ex]berkuts, which they did before they invaded georgia

[l_b]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HVbAaC8.png[/IMG]

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/01/crimea-crisis-deepens-as-russia-and-ukraine-ready-forces-live-updates#block-5311f244e4b0da1677ed2ab7[/url]

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=Joazzz;44090347]not sure about Murica but somehow i can see EU not giving a damn[/QUOTE]

i can see the EU intervening so they have another country to fuck over

[Niklasgunner]

[QUOTE=Stroma;44090353]because russians are apparently going to hand out passports to ethnic russians and [ex]berkuts, which they did before they invaded georgia[/QUOTE]
In context to military intervention.

[Videvik]

[QUOTE=Niklas;44090283]They are not only talking about Crimea, but Ukraine in general.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RazorsharpLT;44090281]They're securing their assets, namely in Crimea. They will "occupy" it until the political situation has "stabilized" (meaning when Yanukovich is back in business)[/QUOTE]

so it's just peacekeeping (for now)?

[Dakiin Dovah]

These politics need to stop talking the talk and start shooting the shoot. Until some action happens, Russia is just flexing his red communist muscles at the innocent little girl, Cimera or whatever the fuck the nobody-cares-about town.

[DaysBefore]

[QUOTE=Stroma;44090367]i can see the EU intervening so they have another country to fuck over[/QUOTE]
And Russia's intervening because of their strong humanitarian values then?

[Niklasgunner]

[QUOTE=Dakiin Dovah;44090379]These politics need to stop talking the talk and start shooting the shoot. Until some action happens, Russia is just flexing his red communist muscles at the innocent little girl, Cimera or whatever the fuck the nobody-cares-about town.[/QUOTE]
Crimea is a peninsula of the size of haiti, not a town.

[editline]1st March 2014[/editline]

I hope you are sarcastic

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44090388]And Russia's intervening because of their strong humanitarian values then?[/QUOTE]

so far, russia has been intervening to protect their port and on request of the crimean premier

[editline]1st March 2014[/editline]

they're legally allowed to do everything they've done so far due to treaties

[l_b]

Russian troops in Balaclava.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhpQ82GCEAA43Rc.jpg:large[/img]

[url]https://twitter.com/Dbnmjr/status/439752919861039104/photo/1[/url]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/01/crimea-crisis-deepens-as-russia-and-ukraine-ready-forces-live-updates#block-5311e244e4b093d4729c2f5d[/url]

[RazorsharpLT]

I don't know about you, but when i looked up of what the current government consists of... i think Ukraine was better off with Yanukovich. I mean jesus, Yulia timoshenko (the leader of "fatherland" union(yes, that's the leading party in ukraine now)) is known to be associated with this guy [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semion_Mogilevich[/url]

[Niklasgunner]

[img]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/1/1393687089642/45d0299d-b0ce-40f0-ae40-b772851899ea-460x276.png[/img]

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=RazorsharpLT;44090482]I don't know about you, but when i looked up of what the current government consists of... i think Ukraine was better off with Yanukovich. I mean jesus, Yulia timoshenko (the leader of "fatherland" union(yes, that's the leading party in ukraine now)) is known to be associated with this guy [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semion_Mogilevich[/url][/QUOTE]

to be fair, yanukovich also has mob ties, but considering udar, batkivshchyna and svoboda are all basically nazi parties, they were better off with yanukovich

[Niklasgunner]

Vote passed unanimously

[RazorsharpLT]

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;44090502]He ruined his political position with both sides so its unlikely he will back in business.[/QUOTE]Well, he's resting up in Ukraine now, and i'm currently serously scared for Ukraine when i checked up on what their government consists of. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_February_2014_National_Unity_Government[/url] I mean All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland"... and All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda" which had THIS as their symbol for more than 10 years. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/I%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%8F_N%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D1%97.jpg[/IMG]

[qoou]

This is seriously another Georgia attempt from Russia, I totally agree with Shakashvili.

[NoDachi]

[QUOTE=Stroma;44090507]to be fair, yanukovich also has mob ties, but considering udar, batkivshchyna and svoboda are all basically nazi parties, they were better off with yanukovich[/QUOTE]

while I'm critical of the far right in ukraine as well, such as: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26398112[/url]

you really don't have a good grasp on whats going on tbh

[RazorsharpLT]

[QUOTE=Stroma;44090507]to be fair, yanukovich also has mob ties, but considering udar, batkivshchyna and svoboda are all basically nazi parties, they were better off with yanukovich[/QUOTE]I knew nazis were in Euromaidan as political opposition, but i didn't think they would ACTUALLY win and take over parliament

[Ripsipiirakka]

[QUOTE=Niklas;44090506][img]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/3/1/1393687089642/45d0299d-b0ce-40f0-ae40-b772851899ea-460x276.png[/img][/QUOTE]

Those are self-propelled artillery tanks. Are they really expecting to attack against Ukraine armed forces?
I mean those are designed for supporting tanks and mechanized units in fast paced offensive tactics.

[Bastet]

Jesus christ.

[Stroma]

[QUOTE=NoDachi;44090531]while I'm critical of the far right in ukraine as well, such as: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26398112[/url]

you really don't have a good grasp on whats going on tbh[/QUOTE]

im not talking about right sector, they aren't winning anything
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)#Stances[/url]
[quote]In May 2013 UDAR, All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland" and All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda" vowed to coordinate their actions during the 2015 Ukrainian presidential election.[/quote]
([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Democratic_Alliance_for_Reform#Ukrainian_Democratic_Alliance_for_Reform[/url])

[Niklasgunner]

[img]http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/3/1/8bdfc65a-ed49-4a11-a1f5-fc617181b8d6.png[/img]
"I think we're wasting the president's time!" says a senator. Then they vote for Putin's Ukraine invasion unanimously"