Russia invades Ukraine. Roads and airports being blocked and occupied - Polidicks

[QUOTE=gudman;44078282]I don't know who these guys are. Neither does anyone else because they wear uniform with no markings, don't tell who they are and no one takes responsibility for them. These people, however: [img]http://i.imgur.com/fmC97EK.jpg?1[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/EwNXHxz.jpg?1[/img] are absolutely [b]not[/b] soldiers of the same detachment. The guy on the second picture also has "Cherepashka" vest which is not standard military gear, it's FSB spetsnaz equipment. As I've already said, I do not know who these people are, but neither does anyone else, they might or might not be Russian military.[/QUOTE] Ukrainian Uprising Thread: Guys I think we're being invaded Edition.

[QUOTE=Leon;44078321]spetsnaz units were deployed to ukraine a couple days ago thats probably them.[/QUOTE] Source?

[QUOTE=Turing;44078179]do you really imagine they purchased over 300+ uniforms to play russians????[/QUOTE] FP Ukraine meetup??

So is there any other proof that these guys are Russian other than that the uniforms look kinda similar?

[QUOTE=Ezhik;44078338]So is there any other proof that these guys are Russian other than that the uniforms look kinda similar?[/QUOTE] no

I'd like to know who else you think could be seizing strategic military locations with uniformed men, troop trucks, APCs, and Hind gunships

[QUOTE=teh pirate;44078356]I'd like to know who else you think could be seizing strategic military locations with uniformed men,trucks APCs, and Hind gunships[/QUOTE] The North Koreans of course.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;44078356]I'd like to know who else you think could be seizing strategic military locations with uniformed men,trucks APCs, and Hind gunships[/QUOTE] Mercenaries? Unmarked government security forces? The Crimeans?

[QUOTE=teh pirate;44078356]I'd like to know who else you think could be seizing strategic military locations with uniformed men, troop trucks, APCs, and Hind gunships[/QUOTE] belarus [editline]1st March 2014[/editline] poland

[QUOTE=teh pirate;44078356]I'd like to know who else you think could be seizing strategic military locations with uniformed men, troop trucks, APCs, and Hind gunships[/QUOTE] Ukraine has a military too.

[QUOTE=croguy;44078370]Mercenaries? Unmarked government security forces? The Crimeans?[/QUOTE] Mercenaries would have to have been local, and we'd know about them since you can't hide this many vehicles. Ukrainian government security forces? So they can claim they're being invaded by themselves? Which Crimeans? Again, where was all this equipment until now?

[QUOTE=Ezhik;44078380]Ukraine has a military too.[/QUOTE] so why aren't they saying they're part of the Ukrainian military? why aren't they wearing [B]any[/B] identification insignias at all?

[QUOTE=teh pirate;44078400] Which Crimeans? Again, where was all this equipment until now?[/QUOTE] Russian connections could've kicked something their way.

[QUOTE=goon165;44078407]so why aren't they saying they're part of the Ukrainian military? why aren't they wearing [B]any[/B] identification insignias at all?[/QUOTE] False flag? Unlikely but possible.

[QUOTE=Tureis;44078417]Russian connections could've kicked something their way.[/QUOTE] So we've changed it from a Russian invasion to a proxy war.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44077926]And I consider it a highly misleading title Russia can't actually threaten our borders because of [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances[/url][/QUOTE] Christ we signed another thing like that about a hundred years ago with Belgium.

[QUOTE=teh pirate;44078424]So we've changed it from a Russian invasion to a proxy war.[/QUOTE] Not really a war until someone starts shooting. And I doubt it'd get to that, seems more like a bunch of flexing and set up before talks.

[QUOTE=Araknid;44078373]belarus [editline]1st March 2014[/editline] poland[/QUOTE] It's the damn Kazakhs, can't you see!?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44078454]It's the damn Kazakhs, can't you see!?[/QUOTE] Wait, what if it's the Georgians seeking revenge?

[QUOTE=Tureis;44078450]Not really a war until someone starts shooting. And I doubt it'd get to that, seems more like a bunch of flexing and set up before talks.[/QUOTE] Whenever I hear "Political Flexing", I just imagine the leaders of the nations stripping down to speedos, and then showing off their muscles until one backs down.

Shit's about to get even more real

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44077926]And I consider it a highly misleading title Russia can't actually threaten our borders because of [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances[/url][/QUOTE] Treaties don't mean a goddamn thing. They're just hollow words on pieces of paper. A country can and will blatantly ignore everything on it if they want to. That treaty is not going to stop Putin. If he wants to occupy Ukraine by force he will do exactly that.

[QUOTE=goon165;44078407]so why aren't they saying they're part of the Ukrainian military? why aren't they wearing [B]any[/B] identification insignias at all?[/QUOTE] A unit in the military that doesn't want to associate itself with the new government perhaps? It is probably Russians, but there isn't any proof other than "their uniforms look similar".

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44078463]Whenever I hear "Political Flexing", I just imagine the leaders of the nations stripping down to speedos, and then showing off their muscles until one backs down.[/QUOTE] Obama and Putin in a Mr Muscles contest

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;44078454]It's the damn Kazakhs, can't you see!?[/QUOTE] Next thing you know they will take the US president hostage right on his plane!

[QUOTE=Ezhik;44078509]Next thing you know they will take the US president hostage right on his plane![/QUOTE] "The Mouse that Roared" anyone?

[QUOTE=TestECull;44078492]Treaties don't mean a goddamn thing. They're just hollow words on pieces of paper. A country can and will blatantly ignore everything on it if they want to. That treaty is not going to stop Putin. If he wants to occupy Ukraine by force he will do exactly that.[/QUOTE] If the West doesn't respond at all to this it'll look pretty fucking pathetic on their part. Which is also what I'd assume Putin would want.

[QUOTE=Tureis;44078530]If the West doesn't respond at all to this it'll look pretty fucking pathetic on their part. Which is also what I'd assume Putin would want.[/QUOTE] And they would look stupid if they responded before they knew what they were dealing with. America won't want to do anything because currently as it stands: Russian troops near a russian base Unknown troops and vehicles across the region (might be well armed militia or even the ukerainian army) Russian helicoptors flying over with permission of the interim government.

[QUOTE=Tureis;44078530]If the West doesn't respond at all to this it'll look pretty fucking pathetic on their part. Which is also what I'd assume Putin would want.[/QUOTE] And what, pray tell, should the West do? We can't roll troops in, that's just a blatant call to war with the second largest modern army on the planet. Which isn't an option. We can't sanction Russia, they're so big they can just laugh and ignore the sanctions. Angry letters do fuck all, and Russia will just shrug and screw around during any negotiations to stall them into failing.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;44078553]And they would look stupid if they responded before they knew what they were dealing with. America won't want to do anything because currently as it stands: Russian troops near a russian base Unknown troops and vehicles across the region (might be well armed militia or even the ukerainian army) Russian helicoptors flying over with permission of the interim government.[/QUOTE] They allowed 7 and there are clearly more than 7 in Ukrainian airspace.