[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;44103256]Again.
Logic is the use of valid reasoning, where fallacy is using poor reasoning.
That post you were making fun of was an example of logical fallacy because of the simple fact that he got a fucking name wrong, which would in fact make his whole argument wrong. Had he said "Black Sea" it would have been accepted as a logical statement, but because of saying "Baltic Sea" his whole argument was invalid because of poor reasoning.
Logical Fallacy.[/QUOTE]
No, it's incorrect because of a factual mistake. A logical fallacy is a fallacy of reasoning, not of semantics.
Why are we even doing this here.
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;44103272][video=youtube;z4uubVAZXwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uubVAZXwU[/video][/QUOTE]
APCs aren't soviet, clean streets and roads. Poland?
Looks Polish. Are the Poles starting to mobilize?
[editline]2nd March 2014[/editline]
Yea those are KTO Rosomaks. Polish APC's.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;44103256]Again.
Logic is the use of valid reasoning, where fallacy is using poor reasoning.
That post you were making fun of was an example of logical fallacy because of the simple fact that he got a fucking name wrong, which would in fact make his whole argument wrong. Had he said "Black Sea" it would have been accepted as a logical statement, but because of saying "Baltic Sea" his whole argument was invalid because of poor reasoning.
Logical Fallacy.[/QUOTE]
Wha- wha- what, no.
I didn't discredit his whole argument because he doesn't know Baltic sea from Black sea, I even said where it was wrong as an argument.
Why are we even arguing semantics again?
[QUOTE=EcksDee;44103296]No, it's incorrect because of a factual mistake. A logical fallacy is a fallacy of reasoning, not of semantics.
Why are we even doing this here.[/QUOTE]
I don't know.
[QUOTE=VOSK;44103327]Looks Polish. Are the Poles starting to mobilize?
[editline]2nd March 2014[/editline]
Yea those are KTO Rosomaks. Polish APC's.[/QUOTE]
Translation says:
[quote]Polish armored vehicles moving east. S all over the country
The forums write that this Skwierzyna.
Several dozen armored vehicles go to the railway.
Armored personnel carriers KTO Rosomak 02.03.2014[/quote]
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44103314]APCs aren't soviet, clean streets and roads. Poland?[/QUOTE]
at the beginning the woman says "zamknij mi drzwi" I think, which means "close the doors for me"
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;44103314]APCs aren't soviet, clean streets and roads. Poland?[/QUOTE]
The text says "Polish mechanized forces are moving eastward. Military columns are spotted everywhere in the country".
it makes sense, i mean like the whole polish foreign policy is establishing a buffer zone between it and russia
they really dont like russia getting all up its ass
[QUOTE=gudman;44102934]You probably meant Black sea ([img]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/us.png[/img]) and Crimea is not the only way to it either.
[editline]2nd March 2014[/editline]
Jesus I'm late to call USA out on their education system. What a shame.[/QUOTE]
Right sorry, I get by B seas mixed up. I also meant it's the quickest way to the Black sea from Russia. You could go down the (inuit?) to the Black sea but that would take much longer.
Jaanus is in the army, I wonder if he has received any orders or heard anything?
Probably not allowed to talk about it.
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;44103029]You're not really calling our education system out for someone's honest mistake with geography. You're pointing out a logical fallacy. They happen.[/QUOTE]
It's a fallacy within itself to call out anyone on their education.
i imagine jaanus in a war as blackadder or M.A.S.H
[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;44103272][video=youtube;z4uubVAZXwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uubVAZXwU[/video][/QUOTE]
Pretty cool looking APCs by the way. They remind me of Mako from Mass Effect for some reason.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but could Poland even get directly involved in a war between Ukraine and Russia? I barely know anything about international treaties/politics/what have you, but wouldn't them being part of NATO somehow prohibit that kind of action, seeing as if Poland was attacked in retaliation the other member states would be forced to come to their aid, thus drawing them into the conflict?
Son of a bitch I thought I started something stupid.
Look at that literal wall of text.
And it's gone.
can a mod remove the spam text? it's annoying having to scroll through it.
thankyou.
Not sure if this got posted, if it did my mistake.
[url]https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/440188437895716864/photo/1[/url]
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;44103513]Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but could Poland even get directly involved in a war between Ukraine and Russia? I barely know anything about international treaties/politics/what have you, but wouldn't them being part of NATO somehow prohibit that kind of action, seeing as if Poland was attacked in retaliation the other member states would be forced to come to their aid, thus drawing them into the conflict?[/QUOTE]
they have a right in case it is a direct threat to them
they have already invoked Article 4 of NATO, so they'll probably discuss that with the rest of NATO behind closed doors
if russia moves forward poland will probably help western ukraine secure the lines
[QUOTE=MattSif;44103638]Not sure if this got posted, if it did my mistake.
[url]https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/440188437895716864/photo/1[/url][/QUOTE]
i wouldnt really take twitter posts from euromaidan at anything more than face value. if it turns out that is true it wouldn't surprise me, if it turns out to be staged it wouldnt surprise me.
[QUOTE=MattSif;44103638]Not sure if this got posted, if it did my mistake.
[url]https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/440188437895716864/photo/1[/url][/QUOTE]
god damn it i love this ukrainian thing
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ZLyy6VM.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/429112682197696512/DJZ4sffG.png[/IMG]
this is sexy too
[QUOTE=TheKingofBees;44103673]i wouldnt really take twitter posts from euromaidan at anything more than face value. if it turns out that is true it wouldn't surprise me, if it turns out to be staged it wouldnt surprise me.[/QUOTE]
I posted it just to get info out there, if it's false that sucks. If it's true, that's bribing another countries citizens to protest against their own government. Then again it's not far-fetched for me to say we're probably guilty of doing that somewhere.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;44103513]Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but could Poland even get directly involved in a war between Ukraine and Russia? I barely know anything about international treaties/politics/what have you, but wouldn't them being part of NATO somehow prohibit that kind of action, seeing as if Poland was attacked in retaliation the other member states would be forced to come to their aid, thus drawing them into the conflict?[/QUOTE]
I think they're afraid about colateral. They are doing basically the same as Turkey did when Syria started.
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;44103404]One thing I learned about is that even Fox News can reach a point where they can't ignore international news.[/QUOTE]
I figured that since their primary audience is mostly old Cold War fantasists, they would be all over this shit.
[QUOTE=MattSif;44103741]I posted it just to get info out there, if it's false that sucks. If it's true, that's bribing another countries citizens to protest against their own government. Then again it's not far-fetched for me to say we're probably guilty of doing that somewhere.[/QUOTE]
It's more likely than unlikely.
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10671527/Muscovites-call-for-invasion-of-Ukraine.html[/url]
Russian Protests against the Ukraine
[quote]
Large protest marches calling for intervention in Ukraine took place on Sunday across Russia amid an increasingly strident propaganda campaign by Kremlin-controlled media aimed at boosting support for military action.
Thousands of people carrying Russian flags marched through Moscow shouting their solidarity with ethnic Russians in Ukraine and denouncing the new regime in Kiev. Many said they favored deploying the armed forces.
“It is very difficult for me to watch how fascists, terrorists and drug addicts are insulting the people of Ukraine” said Lidia, a consultant based in Moscow. “We must invade.”
[B]The rally, which dispersed after little over an hour, bore all the hallmarks of attempts to boost numbers by paying protesters and busing in state-employees. [/B][/quote]
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