Russia invades Ukraine. Roads and airports being blocked and occupied
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[QUOTE=Lijitsu;44112714]Pretty sure it was intentional, considering it was the exact same 'typo' every single time. Ukerain.[/QUOTE]
You're right it me not being able to spell, recognise when it was spelt wrong. Thanks for pointing it out, I shall try and spell it correctly next time.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44112962]You draw the line at provoking a war that could kill hundreds of thousands and decend Ukraine into a bloody civil war.
If Russia actually invades mainland Ukraine, I can't see that not happening.[/QUOTE]
All due respect, but can you clarify your double negative? Are you saying that if they invade the mainland that the war will happen?
[QUOTE=LiamBrown;44112798][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zVkyClc.png[/IMG]
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/03/ukraine-crisis-russia-control-crimea-live#block-5314a031e4b093d4729c3109[/url][/QUOTE]
Everything seems pretty messed up over there right now. Nobody knows what is happening and there are reports of communication cables being cut all over the place.
[QUOTE=-n3o-;44112920]If Russia invade the rest of Ukraine then war would most certainly break out. I think Russia is just going to bite and hold onto Crimea. But that's just my guess.[/QUOTE]
who would wage the war? they have serious support by Russan civ in that areas
also nobody would want confrontation on this scale
[QUOTE=imarawrus;44112988]All due respect, but can you clarify your double negative? Are you saying that if they invade the mainland that the war will happen?[/QUOTE]
yes shooting will happen
but not a world war
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44110381]Holy fucking shit, the Russian Stock Market is crashing.
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[url=http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/03/ukraine-crisis-hits-stock-markets-as-russia-hikes-interest-rates-business-live]The Guardian[/url][/QUOTE]
And THAT is how you deal with a situation like this. Russia is too modern to withstand international condemnation and near-economic isolation. Even with China backing it up if Russia ramps up the aggression it's on the fast track to being labeled a pariah state.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44112703]I don't mean to insult the people, just Putin. I'm sorry if I offended you.[/QUOTE]
I'm not offended, my question is completely legit. Because you see, no one does what you described as "imperialistic", something US is getting accused often, in Ukraine. While Crimea is indeed occupied, no one but a couple of [b]really stupid[/b] members of parliament who decided to step forward on their own with their new "law" about inclusion of new regions, has been talking about inclusion. The referendum Crimea is supposed to hold isn't about independence, it's about widening their autonomy. The very same referendum that is supported by Moscow.
And even then, so far Russian Federation hasn't included anything. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are really independent, they don't follow any direct orders from Kremlin. The connections between our country and these regions end with Moscow giving them money "for purposes of rebuilding and recreation", that's it.
You can call Russian whatever you want but imperialistic. Stupid - yes, because so far from everything we've done against (and rarely, for) our neighbors, we haven't gained a single thing. Trying to gain influence over more nations - yes, but that's what every major country does one way or the other, so that's hardly exceptionally "imperialistic".
I'm not coming from Russian perspective here, but as a professional journalist - you don't step forward with conclusions if nothing at all supports it.
Shit is exponentially getting worse now
[QUOTE=Hidole555;44113041]And THAT is how you deal with a situation like this. Russia is too modern to withstand international condemnation and near-economic isolation. Even with China backing it up if Russia ramps up the aggression it's on the fast track to being labeled a pariah state.[/QUOTE]Actually - China supports Ukraine, so Russia is alone on this one (well, except for Belarus, but nobody gives a damn about them)
[QUOTE=Hidole555;44113041]And THAT is how you deal with a situation like this. Russia is too modern to withstand international condemnation and near-economic isolation. Even with China backing it up if Russia ramps up the aggression it's on the fast track to being labeled a pariah state.[/QUOTE]
you know what's fun, having 1 euro cost 50 rubles
you know what's even more fun, knowing that the people who approved this shit have their money in offshore accounts and in oil, so these sanctions won't do them shit
[QUOTE=gudman;44113053]I'm not offended, my question is completely legit. Because you see, no one does what you described as "imperialistic", something US is getting accused often, in Ukraine. While Crimea is indeed occupied, no one but a couple of [b]really stupid[/b] members of parliament who decided to step forward on their own with their new "law" about inclusion of new regions, has been talking about inclusion. The referendum Crimea is supposed to hold isn't about independence, it's about widening their autonomy. The very same referendum that is supported by Moscow.
And even then, so far Russian Federation hasn't included anything. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are really independent, they don't follow any direct orders from Kremlin. The connections between our country and these regions end with Moscow giving them money "for purposes of rebuilding and recreation", that's it.
You can call Russian whatever you want but imperialistic. Stupid - yes, because so far from everything we've done against (and rarely, for) our neighbors, we haven't gained a single thing. Trying to gain influence over more nations - yes, but that's what every major country does one way or the other, so that's hardly exceptionally "imperialistic".
I'm not coming from Russian perspective here, but as a professional journalist - you don't step forward with conclusions if nothing at all supports it.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, I saw a moment to jab at folks calling us Imperialist all the time, and I didn't know about any of this.
[QUOTE=RazorsharpLT;44113128]Actually - China supports Ukraine[/QUOTE]i missed this part, when was that said?
[QUOTE=laserguided;44110766]I wonder if the worlds nations would accept it's independence if the referendum ends in support of secession.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if it would be "independence" or if it would just become part of Russia.
The independence argument here is sort of a joke. Crimea is clearly not independent, it is utterly subverted by Russian interests.
[QUOTE=RazorsharpLT;44113128]Actually - China supports Ukraine, so Russia is alone on this one (well, except for Belarus, but nobody gives a damn about them)[/QUOTE]
only just until same deals are offered by Russia ... ;)
afaik the Russia and Chine will just cover each other especially if China gets issues in Tibet or decide to take over Taiwan
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;44113255]I wonder if it would be "independence" or if it would just become part of Russia.
The independence argument here is sort of a joke. Crimea is clearly not independent, it is utterly subverted by Russian interests.[/QUOTE]
Russia has no interest in seeing an independent Crimea, it's just a convenience to tell the locals while they're being hacked off of Ukraine and glued onto Russia.
[America]
This is an embarrassing challenge to the hegemony of the United States, and such insolence will not stand! When [I]we[/I] tell Russia to back off, they better collectively shit their pants lest we ram our thorny cock of military might right down their throat until they choke on it!
But Russia has one of the strongest armies in the world you say. Hah, their conventional and adorably primitive army (seriously, fielding actual soldiers is sooo antiquated) will not hold a candle to the science fiction bullshit we've farted out of our military budget!
Once President Obama is done laughing over how pathetic this "invasion" is, he'll start yawning because this bumbling embarrassment is not even worth using the smallest modicum of American might to crush!
We've allowed Vladimir Putin to stay in power merely because we thought he was amusing in a pathetic way, but now that he's in some sort of fever-dream induced delusional world where he thinks he actually runs shit; his ass will be slowly roasted over coals and served as the main course at the next g8 summit, which Obama will only attend if he's out of Ambien and is having trouble sleeping!
We'll make such an example of Russia, so that all you other countries on this planet (that we only allow to exist because it isn't worth our time to crush you) learn your place as our peons, unworthy to lick the Doritos dust that falls from our fingers!
[/America]
UKRAINE IS BEST COUNTRY ON FACE OF EARTH I LIVE FOR DAY TO PROVE WORTH OF GLORIOUS UKRAINE LIKE THIS DAY AND I WILL KILL RUSSIAN BEAR WITH OWN TWO HANDS LIKE THE COSSACKS BEFORE ME GOD BLESS UKRAINE UKRAINE HAVE LARGEST PENIS IN ALL OF SLAV REMEMBER HOLODOMOR
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In Russia, our brothers,
in Europe, we are slaves.
[QUOTE=imarawrus;44112909]I'm not saying I want to see another world war, but where do we draw the line? 6 years ago it was South Ossetia and Abkhazia, now it's Crimea. What's next?[/QUOTE]
Gee, remember the last time an ego-maniacal despot started annexing territory to "protect the ethnic majority"of those regions. Nothing bad came from that!
In all seriousness, Putin isnt as crazed as Hitler, but something needs to be done. I dont think Crimea is worth starting a war over, not unless Putin and the Russians actually start shooting. But the last time we let something like this happen, that other ego-maniacal despot decided the rest of the world were goddamn pushovers and tried to conquer all of it.
If bullets start flying, somebody needs to stand up. Preferably the European States. All things considered, a Coalition of EU states alone could probably beat them.
Then again, I wouldnt be the one risking my life and maybe being shot, so my opinion doesnt hold much weight.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;44113952]
If bullets start flying, somebody needs to stand up. Preferably the European States. All things considered, a Coalition of EU states alone could probably beat them.
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Very likely. But by the time collective might of European states gets their shit together and figure out how war with a huge country differs from spamming that country with paper with empty threats scribbled on it, Putin will already back off by himself as all possible goals will be achieved.
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In Russia, our brothers,
in Europe, we are slaves.[/QUOTE]
Wanted to rate dumb because of what the guy is saying.
Really, why would they feel like slaves in the EU? Do the Polish feel like slaves? The Slovaks? The Sweden?
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;44115304]Wanted to rate dumb because of what the guy is saying.
Really, why would they feel like slaves in the EU? Do the Polish feel like slaves? The Slovaks? The Sweden?[/QUOTE]
US VS THEM
[QUOTE=unidentified;44115580]Purin: "Good job, comrade!"
[img]http://s4.pikabu.ru/post_img/2014/03/03/1/1393797152_1406859445.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Reminds me of Daily Mail showing London in one picture and Constantinople "if the Muslims have their way."
[QUOTE=RazorsharpLT;44113128]Actually - China supports Ukraine[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Joazzz;44113196]i missed this part, when was that said?[/QUOTE]
I would also like to know more about this.
here's an interesting POV
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNi32y1i-Ls[/MEDIA]
[QUOTE=Turing;44116634][url]http://news.yahoo.com/russia-yanukovich-asks-putin-russian-military-ukraine-211358499.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory[/url]
[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26413953[/url][/QUOTE]
It's funny because he commented that Putin has not spoken or said anything to him since he arrived.
I'm watching that live-stream and all I can hear is "THEY ARE NAZIS!!!!!!!!"
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;44115304]Wanted to rate dumb because of what the guy is saying.
Really, why would they feel like slaves in the EU? Do the Polish feel like slaves? The Slovaks? The Sweden?[/QUOTE]
To be perfectly honest, yes, a bi- AAAAAAWWWWWWWWW FUCK YOU MAN GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH THAT WHIP DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT- AAAAAAAAAAAWWWW SHIT
It appears the truth is leaking through even on RT: [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26435744"]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26435744[/URL]
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