• Bernie Sanders quit Democratic party to return as a independent senator
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[QUOTE=Skanic;50810296]Only that Denmark is not a Socialism Democracy It is a Social Democracy.[/QUOTE] Going beyond labels, what has Bernie said that would make you think that he would have the state take ownership of the means of production and abolish capitalism? Most everything he says sounds like Danish policies to me, which would make him, yes, a social democrat - as has many other people said.
And so pulled back is the facade of the feisty, crotchety old rebel to reveal just another snarling demagogue, willing to drag down a party he never really joined.
[QUOTE=Chonch;50817170]And so pulled back is the facade of the feisty, crotchety old rebel to reveal just another snarling demagogue, willing to drag down a party he never really joined.[/QUOTE] You're talking about Trump, right? Not Sanders, surely? Because he's always been an independent candidate that convassed with the Democrats. He only officially joined the party last year. And calling Sanders a demagogue is... interesting, to say the least.
[QUOTE=Chonch;50817170]And so pulled back is the facade of the feisty, crotchety old rebel to reveal just another snarling demagogue, willing to drag down a party he never really joined.[/QUOTE] No dude the Trump thread is that way.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50817354]You're talking about Trump, right? Not Sanders, surely? Because he's always been an independent candidate that convassed with the Democrats. He only officially joined the party last year. And calling Sanders a demagogue is... interesting, to say the least.[/QUOTE] I'd call any guy who prioritizes building a massive voter base over sensible policy a demagogue, no matter what party he's from. I'm upset at Bernie because he's successfully shifted the party's agenda in his direction yet won't even stick around to see it through. Look at how all three of Hillary's challengers are now scrambling to pick up the remnants of Sanders' legions; ideally they should be rallying under the official Democratic nominee, but since they're utterly convinced that the deck was stacked specifically against their favorite candidate and that the whole system is corrupt it's thrown what could have been a revolutionary boost in new voter turnout and a decisive Democratic victory into jeopardy. Bernie deciding to leave the party just confirms that he never truly cared for it and was only using it to achieve his own ends.
[QUOTE=Chonch;50819570]I'd call any guy who prioritizes building a massive voter base over sensible policy a demagogue, no matter what party he's from. I'm upset at Bernie because he's successfully shifted the party's agenda in his direction yet won't even stick around to see it through. Look at how all three of Hillary's challengers are now scrambling to pick up the remnants of Sanders' legions; ideally they should be rallying under the official Democratic nominee, but since they're utterly convinced that the deck was stacked specifically against their favorite candidate and that the whole system is corrupt it's thrown what could have been a revolutionary boost in new voter turnout and a decisive Democratic victory into jeopardy. Bernie deciding to leave the party just confirms that he never truly cared for it and was only using it to achieve his own ends.[/QUOTE] That says more about Sanders supporters than it does Sanders himself though. He knew the odds were stacked against him from the beginning and probably didn't imagine scoring as much of the popular primary vote as he did. His "leaving" the Democratic party is mostly a matter of formality; the entire time he has been in the race his Senate paperwork still had him down as an Independent. He was elected as an Independent and since he is no longer running for president it wouldn't be quite right to return to his congressional seat as a Democrat.
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