Bobby Montoya, 7-Year-Old Transgender Child, Turned Away From Girl Scouts, Later Accepted (VIDEO) - Polidicks

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985218]bawww people dont bow down to the expert of fucking everything and accept that im right theyre all wrong, what fucking morons. Seven years old is [i]NOT[/i] an appropriate time to declare a person's gender. Unless the seven-year-old is able to get a psychiatric diagnosis, the world should not have to bend over backwards to accommodate the desires of a seven-year-old child.[/QUOTE] When you were a boy his age did you know you were a boy Well let me tell you, that was NOT an appropriate time for you to decide that for yourself so you should have remained totally gender-neutral until you were 18 (if you are a girl replace key words in the question) [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Binladen34;32985259]Zeke, saying something that isn't retarded? Welp I did wake up in the wrong place.[/QUOTE] thanks man glad to have such an adoring fanbase

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985278]When you were a boy his age did you know you were a boy Well let me tell you, that was NOT an appropriate time for you to decide that for yourself so you should have remained totally gender-neutral until you were 18 (if you are a girl replace key words in the question) [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] thanks man glad to have such an adoring fanbase[/QUOTE] I meant it as a good thing.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985278]When you were a boy his age did you know you were a boy Well let me tell you, that was NOT an appropriate time for you to decide that for yourself so you should have remained totally gender-neutral until you were 18 [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] thanks man glad to have such an adoring fanbase[/QUOTE] I knew I was a biological male, yes. I "identified" with my physiological gender, and I think you know what I meant by that statement. Or are you just dismissing anything that's not your opinion? Puberty brings a host of biological and psychological changes to the human body. Odds are he'll snap out of it during the onset of puberty.

That kid has amazing hair. Psychologically you can "decide" your gender as early as four years old. Sexuality and gender are not the same thing, gender roles are identified and reinforced very early on in development.

[QUOTE=Binladen34;32985259]Zeke, saying something that isn't retarded? Welp I did wake up in the wrong place.[/QUOTE] I take it you actually don't read what he posts.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985218]bawww people dont bow down to the expert of fucking everything and accept that im right theyre all wrong, what fucking morons. Seven years old is [i]NOT[/i] an appropriate time to declare a person's gender. Unless the seven-year-old is able to get a psychiatric diagnosis, the world should not have to bend over backwards to accommodate the desires of a seven-year-old child.[/QUOTE] letting a child be in girl scouts => bending over backward to accommodate

ITT: Ignorance about transgendered people

[QUOTE=Djentleman;32985268]I mean, I'm sure this is a step in the right direction but I don't see the kid being treated kindly by an organization that denies membership to Atheists.[/QUOTE]You're thinking of the boy scouts. Girl Scouts are a secular organization.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985344]I knew I was a biological male, yes. I "identified" with my physiological gender, and I think you know what I meant by that statement. Or are you just dismissing anything that's not your opinion? Puberty brings a host of biological and psychological changes to the human body. [b]Odds are he'll snap out of it during the onset of puberty.[/b][/QUOTE] And where are these odds coming from From what I read, most of the ones that DO "snap out of it" after puberty still identify as homosexual so there's more to this than just a phase [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;32985421]letting a child be in girl scouts => bending over backward to accommodate[/QUOTE] give these LIBERALS an inch and they want a mile next thing you know they'll be making sexual reassignment surgery mandatory for everyone and there'll be a mosque on every street corner

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985479]And where are these odds coming from From what I read, most of the ones that DO "snap out of it" after puberty still identify as homosexual so there's more to this than just a phase[/QUOTE] Perhaps an early indicator of homosexuality? Hormonal thing? Who knows? There isn't enough evidence to justify letting a kid decide his gender at such a young age.

[QUOTE=aliendrone123;32985453]ITT: Ignorance about transgendered people[/QUOTE] transgendered people? back in my day we just called them sissies

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985531]Perhaps an early indicator of homosexuality? Hormonal thing? Who knows? There isn't enough evidence to justify it.[/QUOTE] And what about the children who DO remain transgender through puberty Are you suggesting that they just be tossed to the wayside so you can push [del]what appears to be[/del] what has been confirmed to be (based on your rating of the previous post) your anti-transgender agenda

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;32985540]transgendered people? back in my day we just called them sissies[/QUOTE] Gay people? back in my day we just called them faggots and beat the shit out of them. Black people? Back in my day we used to call them niggers.

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32985576]Gay people? back in my day we just called them faggots and beat the shit out of them. Black people? Back in my day we used to call them niggers.[/QUOTE] he was being sarcastic I've seen his posts before he doesn't literally mean that

[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32985576]Gay people? back in my day we just called them faggots and beat the shit out of them. Black people? Back in my day we used to call them niggers.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/NKFAU.png[/img]

That boy ain't right. Meh, whatever floats... her? boat.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985588]he was being sarcastic I've seen his posts before he doesn't literally mean that[/QUOTE] some schmuck actually agreed with it that was the worst part

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985547]And what about the children who DO remain transgender through puberty Are you suggesting that they just be tossed to the wayside so you can push [del]what appears to be[/del] what has been confirmed to be (based on your rating of the previous post) your anti-transgender agenda[/QUOTE] ANd you're suggesting to proceed with radical therapies and clinical treatments with little to no research on how they could benifit or harm a child's developmental process? yup call me anti-transgender because i don't want kids to have their adolescence further fucked by unnecessary treatments. i rated that post agree to test my own theory. you noticed it and called me out on it just as I suspected. :v:

[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985092]One last shot, what are you talking about, you're an odd fellow, very worked up too. You must enjoy arguing cause you don't seem like a very like-able person. I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive.[/QUOTE] Please Zeke take this kind psychiatrist's advice Clearly he's an expert

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;32985623]some schmuck actually agreed with it that was the worst part[/QUOTE] Thats what made me not read it as sarcastic, my bad :v:

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;32985623]some schmuck actually agreed with it that was the worst part[/QUOTE] Classic spessmherhehn [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985627]ANd you're suggesting to proceed with radical therapies and clinical treatments with little to no research on how they could benifit or harm a child's developmental process? yup call me anti-transgender because i don't want kids to have their adolescence further fucked by unnecessary treatments.[/QUOTE] know what fucks them up telling them they're wrong and that they need to just "grow out of it" want to know why the suicide rate in LGBT kids is so high? it's because of you

[QUOTE=Kymandu;32985092]One last shot, what are you talking about, you're an odd fellow, very worked up too. You must enjoy arguing cause you don't seem like a very like-able person. I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you otherwise you wouldn't be so defensive.[/QUOTE] ooh, a true/false, I'm good at these [quote]you're an odd fellow[/quote] Yes, this is why we like him. [quote]very worked up too[/quote] Ah, tricky one. Usually it'd be a "false" but when retards repeat themselves as often as they do in SH it'd work anyone up quite a bit. [quote]You must enjoy arguing[/quote] Depends. If by "arguing" you mean "intelligent debate" (even if it's not happening here) then probably true. [quote]you don't seem like a very like-able person.[/quote] False - he cracks too many good jokes to not be likeable. [quote]I'm guessing the world isn't too nice to you[/quote] True. The world isn't "nice" to anyone. [quote]you wouldn't be so defensive.[/quote] False.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985627]ANd you're suggesting to proceed with radical therapies and clinical treatments with little to no research on how they could benifit or harm a child's developmental process? yup call me anti-transgender because i don't want kids to have their adolescence further fucked by unnecessary treatments. i rated that post agree to test my own theory. you noticed it and called me out on it just as I suspected. :v:[/QUOTE] I thought transgenderism was a mental disorder that couldn't be helped, why do you have this idea that you can tell them to ignore it and grow out of it when it's a part of them from birth Just to be clear: I don't mean metal disorder in a negative way, I just recall someone from the last transgender-related thread saying that it was a disorder and not a choice.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;32985683]I thought transgenderism was a mental disorder that couldn't be helped, why do you have this idea that you can tell them to ignore it and grow out of it when it's a part of them from birth Just to be clear: I don't mean metal disorder in a negative way, I just recall someone from the last transgender-related thread saying that it was a disorder and not a choice.[/QUOTE] Well I can see that being true but you have to be careful how you refer to it that way, it's kind of a loaded word.

[QUOTE=Kopimi;32985683]I thought transgenderism was a mental disorder that couldn't be helped, why do you have this idea that you can tell them to ignore it and grow out of it when it's a part of them from birth Just to be clear: I don't mean metal disorder in a negative way, I just recall someone from the last transgender-related thread saying that it was a disorder and not a choice.[/QUOTE] because those mental disorders peak at puberty. I'm not saying that every kid of every age has to "ignore it and it'll go away." I'm saying seven years old is too young to make any decisions like that. They're not wrong, but they could not be right.

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985742]because those mental disorders peak at puberty. I'm not saying that every kid of every age has to "ignore it and it'll go away." I'm saying seven years old is too young to make any decisions like that. They're not wrong, but they could not be right.[/QUOTE] So I guess what you're saying is that it's possible they're just acting like a kid and showing signs of transgenderism but it's not them actually being transgendered, but rather them just being a child?

[QUOTE=Kopimi;32985758]So I guess what you're saying is that it's possible they're just acting like a kid and showing signs of transgenderism but it's not them actually being transgendered, but rather them just being a child?[/QUOTE] Which doesn't matter at all If it truly is a phase as he says maybe people should support the kid so they don't kill themselves and are able to live long enough to prove him right

[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;32985742]because those mental disorders peak at puberty. I'm not saying that every kid of every age has to "ignore it and it'll go away." I'm saying seven years old is too young to make any decisions like that. They're not wrong, but they could not be right.[/QUOTE] he's joining the girl scouts, not getting his fuckin dong cut off. jesus people. if he realizes 'oh wait I like vaginas and cars and shit' when he hits puberty, that's that and he's out of the girl scouts. if he still likes acting like a girl, so be it.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985772]Which doesn't matter at all If it truly is a phase as he says maybe people should support the kid so they don't kill themselves and are able to live long enough to prove him right[/QUOTE] Are you referring to a specific case of a 7-year-old who has committed suicide over these issues? I believe I already stated that any time after the onset of puberty is enough time.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32985632] want to know why the suicide rate in LGBT kids is so high? it's because of you[/QUOTE] if i could make a small addendum here one of the most overt reasons that lgbt youth are harassed, assaulted, and sometimes even murdered is that society fosters the idea that something is wrong with them and that they are lesser beings, so obviously they must be a little bit more expendable. spreading the idea that somehow it's "wrong" for them to act the way they do breeds indignation and hatred, and when there's hate it only takes one person to act upon it. see: laramie, wyoming