Part 3: Texas Grand Jury Doesn't Indict Officers Who Beat Woman
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Why the fuck do people complain that people don't report on the good actions of cops? They do. For every negative action, there's usually a positive complement to it. Riots in Ferguson? People volunteering to defend the stores. Protests in Portland? Viral image of a cop hugging a kid. It's not like they never report on it - it's that people are more interested in the brutality. Nobody cares that a cop wrote a justified ticket to a speeding person. People care that other people are dying and being beaten and the aggressors are going unpunished.
[editline]6th December 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=sgman91;46651573]Wow, that's probably the most generalized and bigoted thing I've seen all day.
All cops? Every single cop is a bad person who brutally beats innocent people? I'm sure you wrote that without really thinking about it, but I'm not sure why it's acceptable to make that kind of statement about police when you would instantly be condemned by everyone if it were about other certain groups.[/QUOTE]
Pretty damn obvious he forgot to put a "not" based on what he said right after that. Nobody wants all police to go away - they just want stronger penalties for police brutality.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46651617]Pretty damn obvious he forgot to put a "not" based on what he said right after that. Nobody wants all police to go away - they just want stronger penalties for police brutality.[/QUOTE]
Calm down big boy. If that's the case, then I take it completely back.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;46649730]The cops got fired and the city gave her $75,000
Sounds like justice was served.[/QUOTE]
Watch the vast majority who talk about this event, completely ignore these aspects and never bring them up.
[QUOTE=Cock Boner;46649585]Because it's illegal to record someone's voice without their consent in pretty much every state. That's why every security camera has no audio.[/QUOTE]
This is incorrect.
Voice recording only applies in some states in regards to telephone systems and private property. If you're in a public place or government building, you can record pretty much anything you want in most cases. You can also record private property if it's in plain sight and you aren't using any specialized equipment (ie. telescopic lenses, amplification equipment, etc.)
And you clearly know nothing about security cameras if you think that none of them have audio recording capability. There are hundreds if not thousands of different security camera models with audio capture capability and even two way communication. The reason that cameras with audio capability are seldomly used is usually because of the added expense of the camera and the DVR that can record said audio source.
Here's an example so you can't say otherwise:
[url]http://www.lorextechnology.com/Security-cameras-for-home-and-business/Night-vision-security-camera-with-audio/prod340056.p[/url]
[QUOTE=Dermock;46649654]What the fuck is up with American police lately?[/QUOTE]
Jasper, TX is a town full of racist assholes that needs to be turned into a smoldering crater. It's the same town that that James Byrd Jr. years ago was tied to the back of a truck and drug along gravel roads until he got ripped to pieces. The local government is well known to be prejudice against blacks and Hispanics, going so far as to recall two black city council members because they were black.
[QUOTE=sgman91;46651573]Wow, that's probably the most generalized and bigoted thing I've seen all day.
All cops? Every single cop is a bad person who brutally beats innocent people? I'm sure you wrote that without really thinking about it, but I'm not sure why it's acceptable to make that kind of statement about police when you would instantly be condemned by everyone if it were about other certain groups.[/QUOTE]
whoops my mistake, im not on that side. Forgot a not in my post
[QUOTE=GiGaBiTe;46651664]This is incorrect.
Voice recording only applies in some states in regards to telephone systems and private property. If you're in a public place or government building, you can record pretty much anything you want in most cases. You can also record private property if it's in plain sight and you aren't using any specialized equipment (ie. telescopic lenses, amplification equipment, etc.)
And you clearly know nothing about security cameras if you think that none of them have audio recording capability. There are hundreds if not thousands of different security camera models with audio capture capability and even two way communication. The reason that cameras with audio capability are seldomly used is usually because of the added expense of the camera and the DVR that can record said audio source.
Here's an example so you can't say otherwise:
[url]http://www.lorextechnology.com/Security-cameras-for-home-and-business/Night-vision-security-camera-with-audio/prod340056.p[/url]
Jasper, TX is a town full of racist assholes that needs to be turned into a smoldering crater. It's the same town that that James Byrd Jr. years ago was tied to the back of a truck and drug along gravel roads until he got ripped to pieces. The local government is well known to be prejudice against blacks and Hispanics, going so far as to recall two black city council members because they were black.[/QUOTE]
Oh, fuck, this was in Jasper? That puts a whole different tone on this. Absolute shithole. Makes the aggressiveness of the cops seem a lot more menacing.
[QUOTE=.Isak.;46651685]Oh, fuck, this was in Jasper? That puts a whole different tone on this. Absolute shithole. Makes the aggressiveness of the cops seem a lot more menacing.[/QUOTE]
It tells you it was in Jasper in the OP.
[QUOTE=sgman91;46651573]Wow, that's probably the most generalized and bigoted thing I've seen all day.
All cops? Every single cop is a bad person who brutally beats innocent people? I'm sure you wrote that without really thinking about it, but I'm not sure why it's acceptable to make that kind of statement about police when you would instantly be condemned by everyone if it were about other certain groups.[/QUOTE]
by "other groups" I'm assuming that you mean race, which is a completely terrible false equivalency because the cops have never been systematically oppressed throughout history because they are a [I]profession,[/I] not a race, religion, gender, or culture. negative stereotypes about a [I]profession[/I] are nowhere near as harmful as stereotypes about one of the other groups i've mentioned.
a cop can quit (or get fired) and become a chef or something, but a black dude can't just get up and become a white dude.
and why is it more acceptable to hate cops than be a racist?
look at the news and the last few hundred years of history and tell me that black people aren't at least a [I]little[/I] bit justified in being afraid of cops.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;46651640]Watch the vast majority who talk about this event, completely ignore these aspects and never bring them up.[/QUOTE]
oh those 2 guys that beat the shit out of me got fired? nice. that's justice, and as a black woman i'm pleased with this because the black community has faced this kind of justice for ages! we always get fired when we commit crimes not given disproportionatly harsh sentences
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46651741]by "other groups" I'm assuming that you mean race, which is a completely terrible false equivalency because the cops have never been systematically oppressed throughout history because they are a [I]profession,[/I] not a race, religion, gender, or culture. negative stereotypes about a [I]profession[/I] are nowhere near as harmful as stereotypes about one of the other groups i've mentioned.
a cop can quit (or get fired) and become a chef or something, but a black dude can't just get up and become a white dude.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make a generalization (of which he didn't end up really making anyway) more or less fair. A minority of examples can't be imputed onto each individual of the group, of any group, unless the group in question is defined by the imputed trait (nazis and nationalism, for example).
[QUOTE=sgman91;46651763]That doesn't make a generalization (of which he didn't end up really making anyway) more or less fair. A minority of examples can't be imputed onto each individual of the group, of any group, unless the group in question is defined by the imputed trait (nazis and nationalism, for example).[/QUOTE]
i added more to my post that sort of addresses what you said
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;46649730]The cops got fired and the city gave her $75,000
Sounds like justice was served.[/QUOTE]
Most people who assault someone don't simply lose their job and have an unrelated party pay the victim money. They tend to get a criminal record, and go off to prison (And lose their job as a result).
Being a police officer for some reason downgrades blatantly battery from a prison sentence to simply job termination (At best).
Beating my arse, that was just a fucking takedown. When you try to do a takedown and they resist, of course it looks a bit violent. Pretty obvious that they're trying to cuff the person and the person is resisting. Sure, the hair grab is dubious, but grabbing someone higher up gives better leverage.
[QUOTE=Maegord;46651902]Most people who assault someone don't simply lose their job and have an unrelated party pay the victim money. They tend to get a criminal record, and go off to prison (And lose their job as a result).[/QUOTE]
I do not envy where you live if an assault leads to prison.
The holy fuck is wrong with the jurrers, the cops weren't even fucking doing their job they litterally jailed someone for 100$ which should be illegal, then beat the shit out of her
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46652773]I do not envy where you live if an assault leads to prison.[/QUOTE]
Capt. Obvious: It should if you're a cop
It's still ok to post threads about police brutality?
My understanding is that everyone is free to post about police besides Cubemanv2
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;46654618]It's still ok to post threads about police brutality?
My understanding is that everyone is free to post about police besides Cubemanv2[/QUOTE]
Yes this is correct.
[QUOTE=Coffee;46654653]Yes this is correct.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this new rule, I think we all need to support the mods decision.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46651771]i added more to my post that sort of addresses what you said[/QUOTE]
I assume you're talking about:
[QUOTE]and why is it more acceptable to hate cops than be a racist?
look at the news and the last few hundred years of history and tell me that black people aren't at least a little bit justified in being afraid of cops.[/QUOTE]
If a black person has a history of being abused by the cops, then I have literally zero problem with them being cautious around cops, no problem what-so-ever. That's simply them using personal experience and statistical generalization just like every single person does, but if you're willing to accept that as fine, then I'm not sure how you can fault a cop for being more cautious around black people when the cop has personal experience and statistical significance saying that the black person is more like to be a criminal.
It goes both ways. Either no one is allowed to make generalizations based on statistically significant facts or everyone is.
[QUOTE=Wolf532;46649293]Are they just getting the same 12 people to do these[/QUOTE]
"Johnson!"
"Yes Sarge?"
"Its a slow day around the department, you guys can go fuck around now"
"Can we put pepper spray on our burritos?"
"It would be a crime not to! Now go beat some women and shoot a minority, then we will call it a day"
(I have nothing against cops)
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