House Has Votes to Pass Obamacare Repeal Bill, Send It to Senate - Polidicks

Really doesn't seem that bad, to be completely honest. Children are still allowed to stay on their parents plans until 26. Mandatory health insurance is eliminated for people who work over 30 hours, and companies over 50 employees don't have to give benefits. That's going to allow WAY more hours for everyone in unskilled labor positions.

What idiot would want to work 30+ hours a week and not have healthcare offered

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;52187446]Really doesn't seem that bad, to be completely honest. Children are still allowed to stay on their parents plans until 26. Mandatory health insurance is eliminated for people who work over 30 hours, and companies over 50 employees don't have to give benefits. That's going to allow WAY more hours for everyone in unskilled labor positions.[/QUOTE] Pre. Existing. Conditions.

[Media]https://twitter.com/wyatt_privilege/status/860203637708140544[/media] Realize neither side of the government cares about you just one side is more forward about it

[QUOTE=KillRay;52187531][Media]https://twitter.com/wyatt_privilege/status/860203637708140544[/media] Realize neither side of the government cares about you just one side is more forward about it[/QUOTE] The way I see it, democrats at least pretend to care and pass bills that benefit us common folk. Republicans straight up bend you over and fuck you. Anybody who says both parties are equally bad is an idiot.

[QUOTE=KillRay;52187531] Realize neither side of the government cares about you just one side is more forward about it[/QUOTE] [t]https://i.imgur.com/9j2yAED.png[/t] Seems like one side along with a slither of the other side cared not to fuck over millions.

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52187606][t]https://i.imgur.com/9j2yAED.png[/t] Seems like one side along with a slither of the other side cared not to fuck over millions.[/QUOTE] Half the republicans who voted no probably did because it isn't a full repeal

[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;52186347]I wouldn't. The only thing violence will do is cement this shit. Peaceful protesting is the way to go.[/QUOTE] Peaceful protesting won't work either, these officials are almost godlike at their ability to ignore such demonstrations.

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;52187627]Half the republicans who voted no probably did because it isn't a full repeal[/QUOTE] It matters not that it's a full repeal, it matters that it's going to skyrocket premiums to the point where a percentage of the population will either have to go bankrupt, possibly die, or both.

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;52187579]Anybody who says both parties are equally bad is an idiot.[/QUOTE] Be a gun owner living in California and you'll not have the same opinion. My AK-74 is now illegal because bullet buttons are banned, and that was the only thing keeping my rifle legal previously under the law. Both sides of the spectrum are able to exhibit arbitrary stupidity. Edit: Don't get me wrong, I know this issue isn't paramount like healthcare, but all I'm trying to say is both sides can do shitty things.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52187677]Be a gun owner living in California and you'll not have the same opinion. My AK-74 is now illegal because bullet buttons are banned, and that was the only thing keeping my rifle legal previously under the law. Both sides of the spectrum are able to exhibit arbitrary stupidity. Edit: Don't get me wrong, I know this issue isn't paramount like healthcare, but all I'm trying to say is both sides can do shitty things.[/QUOTE] So you not being able to have your precious guns is equally to millions not being able to have healthcare and live. Okay dude Edit: You edited right as I replied.

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;52187685]So you not being able to have your precious guns is equally to millions not being able to have healthcare and live. Okay dude[/QUOTE] Just walk past where I said "I know it's not equal, but is an example." Ok dude.

[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;52187691]Just walk past where I said "I know it's not equal, but is an example." Ok dude.[/QUOTE] When I hit reply initially that part wasn't there, I only saw it right as I was submitting the post

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;52187685]So you not being able to have your precious guns is equally to millions not being able to have healthcare and live. Okay dude[/QUOTE] That's not really what he said and mischaracterizing him as a gun nut is a uselessly divisive way to make this discussion go nowhere in a hurry. It's an example of a ridiculous regulation that results in something that was okay, no longer being okay over a very tiny thing that likely the legislators don't have a whole lot of understanding of. His point is well made and would be more useful if you took it for what it was. Both sides are capable of stupidity. The problem is the republicans aren't just stupid. They're actively malicious.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;52187702]That's not really what he said and mischaracterizing him as a gun nut is a uselessly divisive way to make this discussion go nowhere in a hurry. It's an example of a ridiculous regulation that results in something that was okay, no longer being okay over a very tiny thing that likely the legislators don't have a whole lot of understanding of. His point is well made and would be more useful if you took it for what it was. Both sides are capable of stupidity. The problem is the republicans aren't just stupid. They're actively malicious.[/QUOTE] In my initial post when I said "Anybody who says both parties are equally bad is an idiot." I thought kind of covered the fact that the Dems do stupid shit too. If it didn't come off that way, that is my bad. I have never been great at getting my thoughts down in writing. This is why, in that context, I assumed he was saying they are equally bad and therefore equating gun control to taking away healthcare. My bad

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52186462]Medical bills account for nearly 60% of all US bankruptcies. Over 600,000 people, every single year, are financially ruined because they had to visit the hospital for something. Now, we are repealing legislation that expanded health insurance to over 22 million people, and giving [B]more[/B] power to private insurance companies to offer worse coverage at higher rates. How is this party not the enemy of the American people, again?[/QUOTE] And forcing the American people to buy insurance under penalty of an expensive fine isn't giving the insurance companies power??

MLK called riots the language of the unheard. Lots of people are feeling unheard right now so I think they shouldn't be surprised if people are fed up of getting screwed over.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;52187768]And forcing the American people to buy insurance under penalty of an expensive fine isn't giving the insurance companies power??[/QUOTE] The whole system is fucking retarded but one is clearly worse than the other here. If you go have a kid that has a health defect that requires medical attention, you're fucked, because in that case being born is literally a preexisting condition, and the kid will never get covered, and will be financially struggling for their entire life. Over health. A bit absurd

I am 100% disgusted. It is honestly pathetic. Why did we prevent the south from seceding? (JK) This bill will hurt many Americans. Ugh. Everything has been said already. Question: Doesn't it say that the citizens have the right to rebel in our constitution? [editline]4th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;52187219]Never enough. As I explained earlier, as long as the GOP/Feds don't EVER touch TV entertainment, and your ability to get on facebook/instagram/twitter/youtube, then you'll NEVER get traction for any sort of change to happen. The american people are entrenched in the "fuck you, got mine" attitude that has been around since the effective beginning of the country. On top of that, thanks to the internet, people really are content to just sit and bitch on twitter/facebook/tumblr, because you have an outlet for your aggression, you can safely sit at home and bitch and complain, instead of going out and doing something. Everyone will sit and say "oh its so sad that little timmy died from a completely operable tumor, OH HEY, my facebook post got a like.. why was I sad earlier?".[/QUOTE] Just read this: They already are. What about Net Neutrality? The prevention of privacy rules? All of these were lobbied by big corporations because they want to sell everyone's data and allow fast lanes to the interned just to become richer.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;52187768]And forcing the American people to buy insurance under penalty of an expensive fine isn't giving the insurance companies power??[/QUOTE] It sure is but it's also how insurance works. The less people, the higher the premiums, the more, the less the premiums. The mandate had a clear purpose to exist, the problem was and still is that there is not enough coverage provided for the costs and the populous reacted poorly to the idea. Insurance isn't the method to provide people healthcare. Healthcare is. But that's nigh impossible for the US to pull off so using insurance to make healthcare universal was the only remaining option sadly.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;52187831]The whole system is fucking retarded but one is clearly worse than the other here. If you go have a kid that has a health defect that requires medical attention, you're fucked, because in that case being born is literally a preexisting condition, and the kid will never get covered, and will be financially struggling for their entire life. Over health. A bit absurd[/QUOTE] Hello, welcome to my life. Under this shit, I will be be completely uninsurable. My entire life could be destroyed for something as simple as a trip to the hospital. I was hospitalized for a week last year with a nasty virus. Without insurance, it would have cost me about fifty thousand dollars. That's nearly as much as I paid for my house. I can't just choose not to get sick or injured, so it's really only a matter of time and luck until my life is destroyed by this shit. The Republican party is the enemy of the American people. If you are not wealthy, white, Christian, and male: they are not on your side.

You know you do have more to worry about than high premiums if you live in a state, or county, that will soon loose their last insurer. (some states and counties only have one insurance provider left. Abnd believe it or not, it's not the Republicians' fault)

[QUOTE=Snake7;52187780]MLK called riots the language of the unheard. Lots of people are feeling unheard right now so I think they shouldn't be surprised if people are fed up of getting screwed over.[/QUOTE] I'm sure a lot of other Americans are thinking the same thing right now too. We'll wait and see what happens though. The senate hasn't voted yet. I mean, if this were something minor, it wouldn't warrant that kind of aggressive outrage. But this is fucking healthcare. [i]People will die from this[/i]. That's not acceptable. I think we need to make this a more mainstream conversation, especially now under the circumstances we're faced with.

[QUOTE=viper shtf;52187768]And forcing the American people to buy insurance under penalty of an expensive fine isn't giving the insurance companies power??[/QUOTE] A nominal fee that can be completely waived if you were incapable of paying it versus people literally dying because they're not profitable to insure. I'll choose door A, thanks. Of course, ideally, we would completely eradicate the health insurance industry and go to universal government healthcare. [editline]4th May 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Glaber;52187933]You know you do have more to worry about than high premiums if you live in a state, or county, that will soon loose their last insurer. (some states and counties only have one insurance provider left. Abnd believe it or not, it's not the Republicians' fault)[/QUOTE] Actually, it literally is. Ted Cruz led a committee that spearheaded the effort to eliminate a provision of the ACA geared towards offsetting the risks to insurance companies. The tanked provision resulted in participating comanies taking huge losses that would have otherwise been mitigated, thus participating insurance companies began dropping out of the marketplace. This isn't a secret, either. Cruz was openly bragging about what a great accomplishment it was during the Republican debates.

[QUOTE=Glaber;52187933]You know you do have more to worry about than high premiums if you live in a state, or county, that will soon loose their last insurer. (some states and counties only have one insurance provider left. Abnd believe it or not, it's not the Republicians' fault)[/QUOTE] What evidence of that do you have? Insurers are going out of business in the us for different reasons than you may be aware of

[QUOTE=hexpunK;52187187]It's time to live up to your handle. Become unstoppable (or become bankrupt). I honestly have no idea how a large enough portion of a country can be so short sighted to not see how fucking AWFUL their right wing (well, far-right compared to most other MEDCs) is for them. And this is coming from someone living in the country-of-foot-shooting that decided leaving an entirely beneficial union was a good fucking idea.[/QUOTE] Because they're safe and sound with Medicare and finally get a chance to repeal the evil Obamacare

A reminder also that congress gets state subsidized health care. If the republicans are so keen on stripping it from everyone else, they should practice what they preach.

[QUOTE=ZombieWaffle;52186113]The republican base often seem to vote against themselves at every chance they get.[/QUOTE] Yep and they never learn a damn thing from it too.

[QUOTE=CP-26;52188302]Yep and they never learn a damn thing from it too.[/QUOTE] Why learn why you can blame the other side for your problems

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52188054]Again, as long as they don't TAKE IT, then nothing will happen. Sure ISP's might throttle your connection to hell and back, but the government will just pass that off as "well competition and blah blah blah", and then, again, nothing will happen. As long as the people can drown their sorrows in the wine that is "entertainment", nothing will get done.[/QUOTE] So we're already in the future. Only it's the Wall-E future.