S. Korea Announces Another Drill... This time with Fighter Jets! - Polidicks

All I've seen lately is SK acting like it WANTS best Korea to attack them, they're being really stupid :| stop with the aggravating drills, how is that going to help the relations !

[QUOTE=Spawndex;26872409]All I've seen lately is SK acting like it WANTS best Korea to attack them, they're being really stupid :| stop with the aggravating drills, how is that going to help the relations ![/QUOTE] Quit acting like you're smarter than the South Korean military.

put your stupid macho pride ideals away and look at the simple fact that people die with stupid shit like this the leader ship will not fight in the event of a war, i cannot see how they have any interests other than their own to keep [editline]22nd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;26872431]Quit acting like you're smarter than the South Korean military.[/QUOTE] i'd say if he sees that and the south korean military does not he is smarter

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872399]And the US coming to SK might possibly be seen as an act of aggression towards other countries like China.[/QUOTE] China no longer really supports NK and, if wikileaks documents are to be believed, is ready for a SK-led unified Korea. [QUOTE]NK just wanted some attention and now they have it. They aren't going to do shit again cause they know they'll get bombed.[/QUOTE] So why is this drill a bad thing, if nothing will happen because of it?

[QUOTE=Spawndex;26872409]All I've seen lately is SK acting like it WANTS best Korea to attack them, they're being really stupid :| stop with the aggravating drills, how is that going to help the relations ![/QUOTE] what would help with relations is that if kim jong and his family were taken down and hopefully someone sane came to power and unified the koreas into 1

[QUOTE=Sector 7;26872455]China no longer really supports NK and, if wikileaks documents are to be believed, is ready for a SK-led unified Korea.[/quote] China doesn't overly like America though. [quote] So why is this drill a bad thing, if nothing will happen because of it?[/QUOTE] This is part of the escalation I described earlier.

[QUOTE=Sector 7;26872332]First of all: 1. NK does not have nuclear weapons capable of being mounted on missiles 2. NK does not have missiles capable of mounting nuclear warheads 3. SK's military, especially with US aid, is far superior to NKs Second of all: My original point was that pacifism is a fucking awful way to protect your people. Okay, you should go tell the people of SK what they should really be concerned about. Tourism is important! Not that dictatorship next door who decided to train their artillery crews by using your people as targets![/QUOTE] What if they mount it on a truck and drive it into worst korea's border on a suicide mission.

[QUOTE=thisispain;26872436]put your stupid macho pride ideals away and look at the simple fact that people die with stupid shit like this the leader ship will not fight in the event of a war, i cannot see how they have any interests other than their own to keep [editline]22nd December 2010[/editline] i'd say if he sees that and the south korean military does not he is smarter[/QUOTE] You're so dumb it hurts sometimes. This is the real world! Snap out of it! Governments wants four things: Control. Money. Power. Control. A won war guarantees these things. Sadly, a war is much like gambling: You can become a bigshot who rolls around in money and power, or you can become a broken-down boozehound who spends all night sitting in a gutter, soaking up his own blood-mixed urine..

[QUOTE=doonbugie2;26872488]What if they mount it on a truck and drive it into worst korea's border on a suicide mission.[/QUOTE] fuck man, dont give them ideas

[QUOTE=Vinze;26872496]You're so dumb it hurts sometimes.[/QUOTE] oh okay i'm not going to read the rest of your post

[QUOTE=Sector 7;26872455]China no longer really supports NK and, if wikileaks documents are to be believed, is ready for a SK-led unified Korea. So why is this drill a bad thing, if nothing will happen because of it?[/QUOTE] Based off a wikileak document, you believe Korea can be united.... If Korea suddenly was to be united this day, it would take half a century for them to merge, and even at that it would be even longer for North Korea to have a fully stable government and economy. Documentaries explain in depth how the two Koreas would never be able to merge, and the complication list goes on and on.

north korean infrastructure is incredibly outdated, it would take decades for them to even receive electricity

[QUOTE=Moose;26872467]what would help with relations is that if kim jong and his family were taken down and hopefully someone sane came to power and unified the koreas into 1[/QUOTE] Imagination land.

[QUOTE=thisispain;26872509]oh okay i'm not going to read the rest of your post[/QUOTE] Oh, no! What ever shall I do? EVERYONE! Stop posting! It's over! Facepunch is gone! It's all over! We're all going to d-... :mmmsmug: Sorry, that's how far I can go with a straight face...

[QUOTE=Vinze;26872496]You're so dumb it hurts sometimes. This is the real world! Snap out of it! Governments wants four things: Control. Money. Power. Control. A won war guarantees these things. Sadly, a war is much like gambling: You can become a bigshot who rolls around in money and power, or you can become a broken-down boozehound who spends all night sitting in a gutter, soaking up his own blood-mixed urine..[/QUOTE] You basically named the same thing three times. Control and power are analogous. SK isn't a military state, they aren't military oriented and I assume they'd rather not risk it just for a chance at having NK.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872532]You basically named the same thing three times. Control = Power. SK isn't a military state, they aren't military oriented and I assume they'd rather not risk it just for a chance at having NK.[/QUOTE] Regardless, it's what all countries ultimately wants in their own way, no matter which path they take. It can be done through trading-routes and diplomatic relations, or through bloodshed, either way, it's not done unless it's profitable. And power and control are different, you can't take a country by control. You can however take a country by power to assume control.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872484]China doesn't overly like America though.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? China and the US are butt buddies. Without the US, China would not be a rising economic superpower. [QUOTE=thisispain;26872522]north korean infrastructure is incredibly outdated, it would take decades for them to even receive electricity[/QUOTE] Sounds like a lot of money for South Korean contractors.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26872546]Regardless, it's what all countries ultimately wants in their own way, no matter which path they take. It can be done through trading-routes and diplomatic relations, or through bloodshed, either way, it's not done unless it's profitable. And power and control are different, you can't take a country by control. You can however take a country by power to assume control.[/QUOTE] I really don't understand the point you are trying to make with that first paragraph there. Isn't that obvious? That's not even related to what I said. Also it depends how you define these things, but you can stage a coup and basically take a country over by control.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26872526]Oh, no! What ever shall I do? [/QUOTE] stop posting, that's a start

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;26872525]Imagination land.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7G_ZgbBzJ4[/media]

[QUOTE=Sector 7;26872580]Are you kidding? China and the US are butt buddies. Without the US, China would not be a rising economic superpower.[/quote] They don't LIKE the US though, China would rather be the superpower than have the US exploit them for cheap labor.

[QUOTE=thisispain;26872402]look, you can be a smart-arse as much as you want but the simple fact is neither countries stand to gain anything from a war which will most likely end up in a complete fucking disaster that's why i'm perfectly right in my position to say that both governments are acting stupid, and cheering them on will only result in many unnecessary deaths i was not aware starting a war was the best way to protect your people, so let me ask you this question: will many people die if south korea goes to war with north korea?[/quote] A complete disaster? I don't think so. Korea, as a whole, can only gain from a war, no matter who wins. North Korea's people are starving. They are brainwashed. They are led by Stalinist madmen. Do they have something to gain from Korean unification? Of course. SK's people are angry that their government is bowing under pressure. They want a unified Korea. Reunification would double the size of their country and restore Korea to what it was before the Cold War split it in two. People would die, in the event of another Korean war. But maybe it is for the better. When we look back on history, we can look at wars and conflicts and revolutions and say "It was for the better." The Korean conflict is complicated - too complicated for a couple westerners arguing on the internet to predict. But maybe war is inevitable. And maybe it will be a good thing. Conflict is a part of nature, after all. [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872590]They don't LIKE the US though, China would rather be the superpower than have the US exploit them for cheap labor.[/QUOTE] You obviously do not understand the situation. China allows it's people to be exploited in order to bring money into their country. Making lots of money and building a strong industrial base is how you become a superpower.

[QUOTE=Sector 7;26872591]A complete disaster? I don't think so. Korea, as a whole, can only gain from a war, no matter who wins. [/QUOTE] gain and war are incompatible concepts

[QUOTE=thisispain;26872597]gain and war are incompatible concepts[/QUOTE] deep.

[QUOTE=Sector 7;26872580] Sounds like a lot of money for South Korean contractors.[/QUOTE] money from who, north koreans are incredible broke

[QUOTE=thisispain;26872597]gain and war are incompatible concepts[/QUOTE] jesus you are dumb. I write out a fully-fledged, intelligent response and I get some stupid hippy-buzzword one-liner in return. Responding to the first sentence, no less.

[QUOTE=thisispain;26872611]money from who, north koreans are incredible broke[/QUOTE] I think that was an attempt at a joke.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872607]deep.[/QUOTE] war is in its nature destructive. everything that we've gained from wars so to speak came after such wars [editline]22nd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Sector 7;26872617]jesus you are dumb. I wrote out a fully-fledged, intelligent response and I get some stupid one-liner in return.[/QUOTE] perhaps if you show some kindness and respect instead of attitude and ego i'd be more willing to respond a child shouldn't be surprised when it is treated as a child [editline]22nd December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872621]I think that was an attempt at a joke.[/QUOTE] the entire premise is a joke

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;26872583]I really don't understand the point you are trying to make with that first paragraph there. Isn't that obvious? That's not even related to what I said. Also it depends how you define these things, but you can stage a coup and basically take a country over by control.[/QUOTE] My point is, all governments has that agenda in mind, even South Korea, some are just bad at brainwashing their people. I mean, look at the US, they're brilliant at the "bandit"-type of agenda, where you find some uncivilized country, wait for them to slip up; walk up to their dead, and just rack 'em and sack 'em. Then look at Sweden for example, they're better as a "host" country, they treat everyone as equals and present themselves as co-operative to any benefactors in order to gain finances, which heightens their status, which gives them influence, which eventually means control. Then look at the middle-east, brilliant at the "martyr"-concept, where you victimize yourself and your people to gain sympathy from the rest of the world whilst having the true evil brewing behind the fancy velvet curtain. Whilst the ultimate goal there is also conquest. No matter where you turn, someone's always willing to stab you in the back for the proper reward, and the only thing keeping it in a balance is how terrified they are of eachother. South Korea is just like the others, one way or another. And that, was my point.

[QUOTE=Vinze;26872641] And that, was my point.[/QUOTE] how wonderfully irrelevant