Man stabs 3 invaders to protect family, may face life for murder - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500537]Any person can stab another, he's not a badass, I don't think this guy thinks he's a badass. And you're absolutely pitiful if you think that. Life is not a video game. by any chance, do you think he gets points for doing this? [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] Apparently in a world where you're forced to hurt someone, apparently it's SO AWESOME AND BADASS.[/QUOTE] I don't think this guy is particularly bothered about the fact that he had to hurt someone to be honest, I think he's probably more bothered about the fact that 3 guys tried to kill him and his family.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35500564]I think he's probably more bothered about the fact that 3 guys tried to kill him and his family.[/QUOTE]Four. One escaped.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35500564]I don't think this guy is particularly bothered about the fact that he had to hurt someone to be honest, I think he's probably more bothered about the fact that 3 guys tried to kill him and his family.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but to go on about how 'badass' this guy is. That's pretty pathetic. He was put in a situation where he had to kill someone, I'm pretty sure no one would want to be put in that situation. Then again, Zedacon probably would.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500537]Any person can stab another, he's not a badass, I don't think this guy thinks he's a badass. And you're absolutely pitiful if you think that. Life is not a video game. by any chance, do you think he gets points for doing this? [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] Apparently in a world where you're forced to hurt someone, apparently it's SO AWESOME AND BADASS.[/QUOTE] Shut up.

You would think they'd be a little more careful when invading a home with the residents still inside Especially if one of those residents used to be in the army

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500537]Any person can stab another, he's not a badass, I don't think this guy thinks he's a badass. And you're absolutely pitiful if you think that. Life is not a video game.[/QUOTE]I doubt most people could take on four people who are better armed with just a knife, so yes, the fact that he could do so is inherently badass. Quit with this stupid "Life is not a video game" bullshit, it isn't an argument.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500375]No, it's not, it's an unfortunate thing. There is nothing 'awesome' or 'badass' about having to be forced into a situation to stab 3 people.[B] Life is not a video game.[/B][/QUOTE] Where the fuck did that come from

and yet another person is irredeemably destroyed by a spur-of-the-moment decision, and the prosecution will not even give the fact that it WAS a spur of the moment decision a second thought.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500590]Yeah, but to go on about how 'badass' this guy is. That's pretty pathetic. He was put in a situation where he had to kill someone, I'm pretty sure no one would want to be put in that situation. Then again, Zedacon probably would.[/QUOTE]You apparently forgot how to read at some point. Go back and reread my posts, then read them again just to make sure you actually understand. [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35500408]The fact that he was able to do so those is. [B]No one is saying he should have been put in those circumstances[/B] and that was not in any way implied. [B]It is unfortunate he had to do it[/B], but the fact that he was able to is badass.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35500622]I doubt most people could take on four people who are better armed with just a knife, so yes, the fact that he could do so is inherently badass. [/QUOTE] it sounds more like you're fetishising something rather than trying to be supportive or whatever. also it's a little bit childish to applaud something violent.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35500622]I doubt most people could take on four people who are better armed with just a knife, so yes, the fact that he could do so is inherently badass. Quit with this stupid "Life is not a video game" bullshit, it isn't an argument.[/QUOTE] When your first thought to a man forced to kill people is "That is so cool!" and not "That's unfortunate", you are a fucking sociopath. The ability to fight off someone isn't "badass", it's having a skill. And no, the "life is not a video game" thing IS an argument. When you treat a real life tragedy like it's some sort of video game, it shows you have some serious issues. [QUOTE=Microcosm;35500592]Shut up.[/QUOTE] Brilliant argument.

This man has honour more than most will achieve in their lives.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35500656]You apparently forgot how to read at some point. Go back and reread my posts, then read them again just to make sure you actually understand.[/QUOTE] So after defending how 'badass' it is, you go off about 'oh but, uh yeah, it's tragic or whatever' What a fucking poor excuse. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Godline;35500700]This man has honour more than most will achieve in their lives.[/QUOTE] Or, you know, people who don't kill.

bad·ass/ˈbadˌas/ Noun: A tough, aggressive, or uncooperative person. Adjective: Tough or aggressive: "a badass temper".

[QUOTE=Microcosm;35500710]bad·ass/ˈbadˌas/ Noun: A tough, aggressive, or uncooperative person. Adjective: Tough or aggressive: "a badass temper".[/QUOTE] That's not exactly a positive. A 'badass' in that term describes a persons personality, not a situation they were forced into.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500705]So after defending how 'badass' it is, you go off about 'oh but, uh yeah, it's tragic or whatever' What a fucking poor excuse. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] Or, you know, people who don't kill.[/QUOTE] Did you not read the fucking article? He and his entire family was about to be killed.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500705]So after defending how 'badass' it is, you go off about 'oh but, uh yeah, it's tragic or whatever' What a fucking poor excuse. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] Or, you know, people who don't kill.[/QUOTE] i hope you're arguing against how wrong it is to praise murder in any circumstance(a good argument) and not the sheer fact he defended himself in a circumstance in which, to him, it would seem like the options were to defend himself or die and lose his entire family.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500722]That's not exactly a positive.[/QUOTE] No one said it was positive

You people are absolutely ridiculous. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Microcosm;35500729]No one said it was positive[/QUOTE] Then why say it at all, then defend it AS positive. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Microcosm;35500725]Did you not read the fucking article? He and his entire family was about to be killed.[/QUOTE] Uh yeah, I did read the article, they were demanding more money. You can only assume they would. Oh look at that, I've read the article. Or maybe I just don't take things at face value.

[QUOTE=thisispain;35500658]it sounds more like you're fetishising something rather than trying to be supportive or whatever. also it's a little bit childish to applaud something violent.[/QUOTE]What is there to be supportive about? The original situation he was in has already been resolved and it won't change, so its not like you can be supportive in that. He seems to be pretty confident that he was justified in how he acted regardless of what anyone else thinks, so nothing to be supportive of there. And I doubt a court or investigators factor in the commentary of forum users, or are even aware of them, so its not like that matters. Where is the support needed? And the fact that it was violent is irrelevant, its his capability that is important in this circumstance. He was capable of defending his family from four attackers who were far better equipped than he was. That is something entirely extraordinary since it is unlikely that the average person could have done the same thing.

This isn't Mass Debate

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500741]You people are absolutely ridiculous. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] Then why say it at all, then defend it AS positive.[/QUOTE] Godfuckingdamnit. It's badass that he's able to fend off FOUR people after they attacked his family. By himself. ONE VS FOUR. ONE. VS. FOUR. THAT is the badass part. The 3 dying is the unfortunate consequence. THAT is not badass. And, look, I didn't even mention that one of the four had a fucking gun.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500741] Uh yeah, I did read the article, they were demanding more money. You can only assume they would. Oh look at that, I've read the article. Or maybe I just don't take things at face value.[/QUOTE] you cannot fucking argue like that when arguing something like this, to him, it would look like the only choice is defend or die. you have to account for the immediate thought and emotions of people in the circumstance. jesus christ is this [B]entire fucking forum comprised of sociopaths[/B]

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500684]When your first thought to a man forced to kill people is "That is so cool!" and not "That's unfortunate", you are a fucking sociopath. The ability to fight off someone isn't "badass", it's having a skill. And no, the "life is not a video game" thing IS an argument. When you treat a real life tragedy like it's some sort of video game, it shows you have some serious issues. Brilliant argument.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure he isn't treating it like a video game, since the situation was either him and his family or the robbers he is happy that it was the robbers, it's not really unfortunate that they had to die considering it would have been the family if they didn't. Unless your one of those people that would of preferred the family being seriously injured or killed and having the robbers jailed and "rehabilitated" Even if he is treating it as a video game your making it seem like we live in a perfect world "oh no those people died even though they were going kill/injure the family if nothing happened to them :( why couldn't they hug and make up!!" [QUOTE=Drsalvador;35500728]i hope you're arguing against how wrong it is to praise murder in any circumstance(a good argument) and not the sheer fact he defended himself in a circumstance in which, to him, it would seem like the options were to defend himself or die and lose his entire family.[/QUOTE] I think he is mad that we are congratulating the man on defending his family and not going "omg why did the robbers have to die!!, they could of been rehabilitated!!!"

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35500684]When your first thought to a man forced to kill people is "That is so cool!" and not "That's unfortunate", you are a fucking sociopath. The ability to fight off someone isn't "badass", it's having a skill. And no, the "life is not a video game" thing IS an argument. When you treat a real life tragedy like it's some sort of video game, it shows you have some serious issues. Brilliant argument.[/QUOTE] We're not saying he's badass because he killed three guys, we're saying he's badass because he escaped the grip of a man that had a gun to his head, fled to the kitchen and was able to save his family, with a knife, from several armed robbers that were intending to murder them all. It's unfortunate that he was put in that situation, but incredibly skill full and "badass" that he was able to get out of it and save his family.

[QUOTE=Drsalvador;35500788]you cannot fucking argue like that when arguing something like this, to him, it would look like the only choice is defend or die. you have to account for the immediate thought and emotions of people in the circumstance. jesus christ is this [B]entire fucking forum comprised of sociopaths[/B][/QUOTE] It's not even about the action, he was forced into a situation and he reacted. However, people like Zedacon who are turning a tragic event and trying to turn it into some sort of 'cool' and 'awesome' event. [QUOTE=Himmel;35500781]Godfuckingdamnit. It's badass that he's able to fend off FOUR people after they attacked his family. By himself. ONE VS FOUR. ONE. VS. FOUR. THAT is the badass part. The 3 dying is the unfortunate consequence. THAT is not badass. And, look, I didn't even mention that one of the four had a fucking gun.[/QUOTE] Why even focus on the fact he had the ability to kill 3 people. Having the ability to doesn't determine anything, other than the fact that in a very unfortunate case like that, he can, that's not the point, the fact of the matter is, he DID and he should be judged on how he handled it. Not ignoring it and just going on about how 'badass and awesome' he is like this is a fucking video game. [QUOTE=bobsynergy;35500796]I'm pretty sure he isn't treating it like a video game, since the situation was either him and his family or the robbers he is happy that it was the robbers, it's not really unfortunate that they had to die considering it would have been the family if they didn't.[/quote] First of all, you have no idea if they were going to kill his family. Second of all, you don't even know who I'm talking about. [quote]Unless your one of those people that would of preferred the family being seriously injured or killed and having the robbers jailed and "rehabilitated"[/quote] Yeah because it's absolutely fucking impossible to rehabilitate a person who committed a breaking and entering. [quote]Even if he is treating it as a video game your making it seem like we live in a perfect world "oh no those people died even though they were going kill/injure the family if nothing happened to them :( why couldn't they hug and make up!!"[/quote] Again, you're just assuming. And also again you have no idea who I was responding to. [quote]I think he is mad that we are congratulating the man on defending his family and not going "omg why did the robbers have to die!!, they could of been rehabilitated!!!"[/QUOTE] You shouldn't be allowed to judge arguments, ever. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=The very best;35500808]from several armed robbers that were intending to murder them all. [/QUOTE] Are they robbers or are they just thrill killers, which is it? So far it seems like they were robbers who were threatening them. You can't assume they would or would not. Believe it or not, but not all robberies end up in the entire family being horribly butchered. The only reason why you people think it's the case is because this made the news.

They got what they deserved. The man is a hero.

It's a forum board, people discuss things and have their own opinions. No fun is allowed apparently.

[QUOTE=Microcosm;35500963]It's a forum board, people discuss things and have their own opinions. No fun is allowed apparently.[/QUOTE] So I see this is your first time ever in 'Sensationalist Headlines'

[QUOTE]First of all, you have no idea if they were going to kill his family[/QUOTE] Oh yes he has. Read the article.