• Man stabs 3 invaders to protect family, may face life for murder
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[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;35501960]Well excuse me for using the wrong terminology.[/QUOTE] if you're gonna insult someone it helps to actually use proper words so the other person knows what you are saying.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;35501340]So? Sure the place is a justice hellhole but usually only in politicised cases. A lot of the justice system still probably works fine.[/QUOTE] Trust me it never works
[QUOTE=thisispain;35501992]if you're gonna insult someone it helps to actually use proper words so the other person knows what you are saying.[/QUOTE] Wait, what? How was I insulting you, I said you were acting dickish and it's not a good thing to act that way. I apologize if I hurt your feelings.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35501491]I'd give them my money. I may not be able to protect them as well as an ex-military guy. I may get killed, and my family may get killed in the process. And this degrades into a situation where people are now dying over money. If they want my money and not my life, then give them the fucking money.[/QUOTE] He gave them money, but they kept pressing him for more after he didn't have any left. As mentioned in the article several of the robbers neglected to conceal their faces so it can be inferred that they weren't going to leave any witnesses.
At first, I thought the man was just a regular citizen with a well-paying career. That's when I saw the bit where he said he had military melee combat training and was hunted before, then I laughed. But good on him, he defended his family with bravery and steel.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;35500564]I don't think this guy is particularly bothered about the fact that he had to hurt someone to be honest, I think he's probably more bothered about the fact that 3 guys tried to kill him and his family.[/QUOTE] He's also was in the army aswell.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;35502114]He gave them money, but they kept pressing him for more after he didn't have any left. As mentioned in the article several of the robbers neglected to conceal their faces so it can be inferred that they weren't going to leave any witnesses.[/QUOTE] Yeah that usually means they have nothing to lose if they don't care to cover their faces.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;35501960]Well excuse me for using the wrong terminology.[/QUOTE] It works if you say he was pretending to be someone high and mighty, above the moral scum that comprises those who believe that without a doubt the man did the right thing, and that he should be praised for it (As that would probably the argument that the use of pretentious would make in these circumstances). In fact pretentious is used like that a lot. Not making an argument, but he's really just trying to throw you off. Which is funny considering he was just chastising someone for doing turn the tables bullshit earlier. You should really know the meaning of words before you use them though.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35500658]also it's a little bit childish to applaud something violent.[/QUOTE] Have we not applauded ancient heroes for heroic deeds? Have we no stories of knights of yore who would do battle against bandits and evil monsters and protect the innocent? Do we not make comic books and television shows (even if the latter isn't always great) for superheroes who fight crime and save the world? Do you not buy a video game with violence in it for entertainment and to support the creators?
[QUOTE=froztshock;35502366]It works if you say he was pretending to be someone high and mighty, above the moral scum that comprises those who believe that without a doubt the man did the right thing, and that he should be praised for it .[/QUOTE] i wasn't pretending to be high and mighty in any extend. [editline]9th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lord_Biscuits;35502382]Have we not applauded ancient heroes for heroic deeds? [/QUOTE] mythology is a bit different. completely different circumstance that doesn't factor into our actual lives at all. [QUOTE=Lord_Biscuits;35502382]Have we no stories of knights of yore who would do battle against bandits and evil monsters and protect the innocent? Do we not make comic books and television shows (even if the latter isn't always great) for superheroes who fight crime and save the world? Do you not buy a video game with violence in it for entertainment and to support the creators?[/QUOTE] well those are just stories. it's different when it's something that can and probably does often actually happen. childish would imply not understanding the consequences of real violence compared to cartoon or mythological violence.
[QUOTE=froztshock;35502366]It works if you say he was pretending to be someone high and mighty, above the moral scum that comprises those who believe that without a doubt the man did the right thing, and that he should be praised for it (As that would probably the argument that the use of pretentious would make in these circumstances). In fact pretentious is used like that a lot. Not making an argument, but he's really just trying to throw you off. Which is funny considering he was just chastising someone for doing turn the tables bullshit earlier. You should really know the meaning of words before you use them though.[/QUOTE] I got that said person was pretending to be a braying jackass of a human being. At least, that's how I inferred it.
All around the world, fucking pathetic excuses for justice systems everywhere.
I like how facepunch is the only place where you can't go more than one page without a fight breaking out.
Brb joining the army.
Russia doesn't understand how self protection works, I think he should not be charged life for justified homicide.
[QUOTE=_jesterk;35502764]I like how facepunch is the only place where you can't go more than one page without a fight breaking out.[/QUOTE] Thats mostly just SH and Mass Debate. Everywhere else doesn't degenerate into tooth and nail fights. (provided no one mentions COD, Anime, and other things).
[QUOTE=thisispain;35501902]pretentious, what am i pretending to be?[/QUOTE] No, I believe you've described yourself in the past as, I quote, "incredibly arrogant about my opinions."
[QUOTE=zeldar;35503084]No, I believe you've described yourself in the past as, I quote, "incredibly arrogant about my opinions."[/QUOTE] well... it's true
[QUOTE=thisispain;35503187]well... it's true[/QUOTE] Oh really? None of us could tell
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;35503210]Oh really? None of us could tell[/QUOTE] pff as if i'm the only one mr. "ITT: "Artists'" or just rate without saying anything of substance, that works too.
The invaders deserved it, happy the family is safe now.
[QUOTE=thisispain;35502422]well those are just stories. it's different when it's something that can and probably does often actually happen.[/QUOTE] Alright, let me get to something more down-to-Earth: Do we not praise the heroes and soldiers of the American Revolution, who stood against the impossible odds to declare independence from the tyrannical British Empire? Don't we have modern holidays dedicated to veterans in a good number of countries? Is there not an epic story and best-selling movie based around an actual battle between 300 Spartans and a thousand other soldiers facing an army a hundred times greater than themselves to protect their homeland? Does no one have respect for the men who defend their homes against unwanted, dangerous intruders and criminals? In any case, whether they're stories or not you would still admire and praise the heroes of them. When I mentioned ancient heroes doing heroic deeds I didn't mean people like Beowulf or Heracles or some other fictional heroes, I meant normal people doing heroic things for the people.
Life for defending his family? What the fuck is that judge smoking?
I would have killed all four of the fuckers in cold blood, so no, this man deserves to be free, he fucking protected the ones he loves. Hell I'd take a fucking bullet for my damned ex-girlfriend and I think she's a bitch, so whatever.
He shouldn't get punished, he saved his family! The men had past records and they were beating a baby! I don't think he should be imprisoned, he needs a medal right about now.
[QUOTE=Lord_Biscuits;35503803]Alright, let me get to something more down-to-Earth: Do we not praise the heroes and soldiers of the American Revolution, who stood against the impossible odds to declare independence from the tyrannical British Empire? Don't we have modern holidays dedicated to veterans in a good number of countries? Is there not an epic story and best-selling movie based around an actual battle between 300 Spartans and a thousand other soldiers facing an army a hundred times greater than themselves to protect their homeland? Does no one have respect for the men who defend their homes against unwanted, dangerous intruders and criminals? In any case, whether they're stories or not you would still admire and praise the heroes of them. When I mentioned ancient heroes doing heroic deeds I didn't mean people like Beowulf or Heracles or some other fictional heroes, I meant normal people doing heroic things for the people.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the Spartans also had their slaves fight in that battle, and were awful people in general, also, I don't think thisispain cares about the American revolution that much.
[QUOTE=proch;35501295]Then use your [I]common sense.[/I][/QUOTE] Actually, it depends on the type of environment that they're in. If it were in broad daylight, then yes, they would most likely kill the family. But if the crime occurred somewhere in the dark (as most robberies do), then it's not so reasonable that some of them didn't wear masks. They probably didn't need to conceal themselves since they knew that it's harder for witnesses to identify them in the dark. "Common sense" would be giving a benefit of doubt to the situation until you know all factors surrounding it. Which none of us don't, unfortunately.
Governer goblin, just keep on digging.
Most people don't immediately die from stab wounds. I'm guessing he slit their throats while they were on the ground, after the fact. It wouldn't make him [i]ethically[/i] guilty, but that's how the system works.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;35504497]Most people don't immediately die from stab wounds. I'm guessing he slit their throats while they were on the ground, after the fact. It wouldn't make him [i]ethically[/i] guilty, but that's how the system works.[/QUOTE] That's quite a jump to make.
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