[QUOTE=proboardslol;48985790]Cause I'm not eating less meat. What do you want me to replace meat in my meals with? A vegetable? I've already got a vegetable. I've got my meals down to two things: meat (steak, chicken, etc) and a softball sized turnip. Turnips are low calories but fill you up wuickly.
So now you want me to eat a fucking Brussels sprout instead of steak? Do I look like I'm from fucking Brussels to you who? This is more Democrat Al gore socialism, trying to tell us that all the nice things are bad for us because poor people can't afford nice things. That way, all the rich people have to eat the same shit that the fucking poor Europeans do, and that's socialism. First they did it with gas guzzlers, telling us about that global warming bullshit, now it's this "cancer". Sounds like a whole load of obummer fascist lies to me[/QUOTE]
this post can not be fucking serious
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48985790]Cause I'm not eating less meat. What do you want me to replace meat in my meals with? A vegetable? I've already got a vegetable. I've got my meals down to two things: meat (steak, chicken, etc) and a softball sized turnip. Turnips are low calories but fill you up wuickly.
So now you want me to eat a fucking Brussels sprout instead of steak? Do I look like I'm from fucking Brussels to you who? This is more Democrat Al gore socialism, trying to tell us that all the nice things are bad for us because poor people can't afford nice things. That way, all the rich people have to eat the same shit that the fucking poor Europeans do, and that's socialism. First they did it with gas guzzlers, telling us about that global warming bullshit, now it's this "cancer". Sounds like a whole load of obummer fascist lies to me[/QUOTE]
Only because this is the internet and people have vastly varying opinions, I can't tell if this is top-tier sarcasm or if you're serious.
Just be vegetarian, you'll die less and it's cheaper.
Who cares. Live life and enjoy it. It's short even if you take care of yourself.
Next thing they'll say is breathing air causes cancer. It seems like everything has the potential to cause your body harm which it does. Nothing is endogenous except the hormones/chemicals/cells your body produces so they might as well say anything you consume has the potential to cause harm or make you more likely to get cancer. Cancer is only cells that rapidly devide uncontrolled. It's your immune system that's responsible for controlling this natural cell devision which sometimes gets out of control.
Who would have known that basically anything that in some way or another interacts with our body carries the risk of cancer?
You know what helps preventing colon cancer? Whole Wheat and exercise.
[QUOTE=Coffee;48985988]Just be vegetarian, you'll die less and it's cheaper.[/QUOTE]
Mmm....nah. I'll stick to delish steaks and burgers and such. I'd rather enjoy a shorter life than become a grumpykins striving to reach an abritrary amount of orbits around a ball of gas floating in a vacuum.
So are you telling me I shouldn't go on McNuggie runs to McDonalds anymore? :saddowns:
[QUOTE=TestECull;48986220]Mmm....nah. I'll stick to delish steaks and burgers and such. I'd rather enjoy a shorter life than become a grumpykins striving to reach an abritrary amount of orbits around a ball of gas floating in a vacuum.[/QUOTE]
The only negatives I'm getting from vegetarianism is people on facepunch telling me I can't survive on my current diet
ive for the most part switched to being a pescatarian because i have chronic jaw pain which makes it difficult to chew hard things(jerky, beef, etc)
havent regretted it anyways, red meat contains hilariously high levels of fat. lost about 10 lbs on my cut in two months just by switching over, plus i feel better overall
would never go full vegetarian or vegan though
I was already planning on getting an electrobowel once they come out anyways
[QUOTE=David29;48985929]But that was the same sort of this that was said about tomatoes. No one was going around shouting "TOMATOES CAUSE CANCER!".[/QUOTE]
I have never heard of this, much less seen a WHO recommendation about tomatoes being carcinogenic. Please provide a source.
This has been horribly overblown by most media sites. The Link between red meat and carinogens was said in the abstract to be "Probably carcinogenic based on limited data" and that the only steadfast data was the mechanism responsible by which compounds in red meat could become carcinogenic.
Processed meat on the otherhand is carcinogenic to humans. Just like air fresheners, automotive combustion, peanut butter, and a littany of other things you probably have in arms reach. Not to say that you should pig out on tins of spam, but a daily sausage breakfast wont matter when you breathe in more than enough carcinogens to profoundly impact your health just sitting in traffic. The cited 34,000 deaths may seem like a lot, but thats only .004% of all cancer related deaths.
Ha! Joke's on you, processed meat! I was already born with a terminal illness! It's called "life"! They don't know how much longer I have, but I've beaten it for this long, so you ain't shit!:unimpressed:
I like the childish, in-denial dumb teenager attitude facepunch throws out when a health statement by a big health entity, based on a extensive study about cancer gets made.
Maybe extensive knowledge about the hazards for human beings is such a unimportant topic we can dismiss every single article about cancer because theres a small possibility it can get you for no reason right?
But of course if someone gets cancer we say "MAN FUCK CANCER" with pride.
Eating crap can give us cancer? Who would have thought? :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=autodesknoob;48987166]I like the childish, in-denial dumb teenager attitude facepunch throws out when a health statement by a big health entity, based on a extensive study about cancer gets made.
Maybe extensive knowledge about the hazards for human beings is such a unimportant topic we can dismiss every single article about cancer because theres a small possibility it can get you for no reason right?
But of course if someone gets cancer we say "MAN FUCK CANCER" with pride.[/QUOTE]
A lot of people (not just on Facepunch) seem to treat such recommendations as personal attacks on their choices and beliefs. It truly is a childish knee-jerk response.
[QUOTE=proch;48985973]this post can not be fucking serious[/QUOTE]
My earth science teacher in 9th grade believed the part about global warming and gas guzzlers
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
11th grade chem teacher too
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48987363]My earth science teacher in 9th grade believed the part about global warming and gas guzzlers
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
11th grade chem teacher too[/QUOTE]
Of all the teachers in your school who could've believed that, it was your earth science teacher?
Man fuck this country.
[QUOTE=Swiket;48987388]Of all the teachers in your school who could've believed that, it was your earth science teacher?
Man fuck this country.[/QUOTE]
He used to work for some mining or oil company finding deposits of oil or other resources.
I think he had plenty of time and money to convince himself that Al Gore is a socialist
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;48986370]So are you telling me I shouldn't go on McNuggie runs to McDonalds anymore? :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
It depends what they mean but "Processed". Chicken nuggets at McDonalds are simply mechanically separated white Chicken breast. Mechanically separated basically means "pureed". AFAIK, other than breading and frying them they don't add anything else to the meat, and when they ship them to the McDonalds franchises they just freeze them. If shredding and frying counts as "processed", then sure, but if by processed that mean whatever the fuck shit they do to sausage and ground beef then I think you're safe, surprisingly
[QUOTE=autodesknoob;48987166]I like the childish, in-denial dumb teenager attitude facepunch throws out when a health statement by a big health entity, based on a extensive study about cancer gets made.
Maybe extensive knowledge about the hazards for human beings is such a unimportant topic we can dismiss every single article about cancer because theres a small possibility it can get you for no reason right?
But of course if someone gets cancer we say "MAN FUCK CANCER" with pride.[/QUOTE]
These "big health entities" don't have a very good track record when it comes to nutrition recommendations. How long did they (like the British Heart Foundation) tell everyone that the cholesterol in eggs was terrible for you and that you should eat them as little as possible when we now know that it doesn't really effect your cholesterol at all?
The entire nutrition system is based on correlations. Very rarely, if ever, do they actually show causation.
[QUOTE=autodesknoob;48987166]I like the childish, in-denial dumb teenager attitude facepunch throws out when a health statement by a big health entity, based on a extensive study about cancer gets made.
Maybe extensive knowledge about the hazards for human beings is such a unimportant topic we can dismiss every single article about cancer because theres a small possibility it can get you for no reason right?
But of course if someone gets cancer we say "MAN FUCK CANCER" with pride.[/QUOTE]
Nobody knows what the fuck they're talking about in Nutrition. The government keeps changing the models. First the Pyramid, then the Other Pyramid, and now this weird plate thing. There's like a zillion fad diets out there with all kinds of Science behind them but in reality every single finding or assumption we have on nutrition is overturned every 5 years
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
I've basically got my diet down to the principals: Eat more protein, eat less sugar, eat less calories
The sun causes skin cancer. But Vitamin D deficiency can also cause cancer...
Wtf do we do guys?
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;48985585]Why eat meat when you have delicious fish.[/QUOTE]
You can have all the cod and white fish you want.
I'll keep muh meat.
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;48987106]Ha! Joke's on you, processed meat! I was already born with a terminal illness! It's called "life"! They don't know how much longer I have, but I've beaten it for this long, so you ain't shit!:unimpressed:[/QUOTE]
Honestly? You're right.
LOADS of people probably went with a meat based diet, and they didn't have problems of that sort.
It can happen, yes, but it probably won't happen more because "suddenly an health organization realized it"
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;48985585]Why eat meat when you have delicious fish.[/QUOTE]
But fish is still meat?
[QUOTE=Mr. Jelly;48988034]But fish is still meat?[/QUOTE]
some people argue the semantics that its not. its still protein regardless though, so more of a moral thing than a physical one
instead of dying of cancer you can die of heavy metal poisoning!
[QUOTE=aznz888;48988101]some people argue the semantics that its not. its still protein regardless though, so more of a moral thing than a physical one
instead of dying of cancer you can die of heavy metal poisoning![/QUOTE]
Some people are dumb as fuck
[QUOTE=proboardslol;48987773]Nobody knows what the fuck they're talking about in Nutrition. The government keeps changing the models. First the Pyramid, then the Other Pyramid, and now this weird plate thing. There's like a zillion fad diets out there with all kinds of Science behind them but in reality every single finding or assumption we have on nutrition is overturned every 5 years
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
I've basically got my diet down to the principals: Eat more protein, eat less sugar, eat less calories[/QUOTE]
Nutrition is actually much less vague than people make it out to be. Being vegan has been proven to reduce the risk of just about every disease which causes issues in the first world (heart disease / cancer/ diabetes / you name it) People say that everything causes cancer and that there's nothing you can do about it but it's actually your diet which is the biggest factor in deciding how healthy you are and no one wants to believe that it's as simple as eating vegetables instead of shit. That's why those incredibly detrimental diets exist, it's for the people who want to stay unhealthy and lose weight at the same time.
[QUOTE=adadadsd;48988112]Nutrition is actually much less vague than people make it out to be. Being vegan has been proven to reduce the risk of just about every disease which causes issues in the first world (heart disease / cancer/ diabetes / you name it) People say that everything causes cancer and that there's nothing you can do about it but it's actually your diet which is the biggest factor in deciding how healthy you are and no one wants to believe that it's as simple as eating vegetables instead of shit. That's why those incredibly detrimental diets exist, it's for the people who want to stay unhealthy and lose weight at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Can you link those studies please? If they are what I think they are, then they're showing that VEGANS, not a vegan diet, have less diseases. That different is a big deal since vegans and vegetarians are usually way more health conscious, exercise more, try harder to have a balanced diet, and are wealthier with better healthcare.
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