[QUOTE=adadadsd;48988112]Nutrition is actually much less vague than people make it out to be. Being vegan has been proven to reduce the risk of just about every disease which causes issues in the first world (heart disease / cancer/ diabetes / you name it) People say that everything causes cancer and that there's nothing you can do about it but it's actually your diet which is the biggest factor in deciding how healthy you are and no one wants to believe that it's as simple as eating vegetables instead of shit. That's why those incredibly detrimental diets exist, it's for the people who want to stay unhealthy and lose weight at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but veganism has also been shown to make me want to hang myself
[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48985574]People say everything causes cancer.[/QUOTE]
It's literally easier to create a list of shit that WONT give you cancer.
I think as long as you aren't putting away pounds of bacon, deli meat, etc, every day it's no problem. You'll prob die of a heart attack before that most likely. :v:
cancer would be cured by now if the top-level big pharma execs weren't busy scrooge mcduck-ing into their pools of gold from the obnoxious amounts of money they get from cancer treatment
[quote]The agency, whose findings on meat followed a meeting of health experts in France earlier this month, estimated each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18 per cent.[/quote]
So I'm at like, what, couple thousand percent?
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Like if I ever get bowel cancer and have to shit in a bag I'd rather just shoot myself.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48985649]Beat cancer by depriving it of victory :v:[/QUOTE]
Non-nutritional war of attrition!
If family history is anything to go by the heart disease will kill me before any of this shit can so fuck you im eating all the artificial meat i want
[QUOTE=sgman91;48988150]Can you link those studies please? If they are what I think they are, then they're showing that VEGANS, not a vegan diet, have less diseases. That different is a big deal since vegans and vegetarians are usually way more health conscious, exercise more, try harder to have a balanced diet, and are wealthier with better healthcare.[/QUOTE]
I draw my information from the book The China Study [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study[/url]
The book does successfully isolate the diet from the lifestyle by looking at examples from around the world (including a very comprehensive studies in various parts of China, hence the name.) I don't really think that its very hard to accept that two people who live the exact same lifestyles but one eats only vegtables and the other eats mostly meat and dairy would end up with very situations health wise. Then again you can be vegan and eat oreos exclusively so the book never denies that making an entire lifestyle change would be the most beneficial to your health instead of just a diet change. The two tend to go hand in hand though, once you're conscious of the diet aspect of your health it's easy for that to trickle into other parts of your life.
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[QUOTE=proboardslol;48988170]Yes, but veganism has also been shown to make me want to hang myself[/QUOTE]
Vegan food is fucking delicious as shit; sure you lose meat and dairy, but there's a plethora of fantastic recipes which anyone would agree to. You don't have to be full vegan to be healthier, it's not an on or off switch. If you bothered replacing a meal or two every once in a while with only vegtables then you'd already be that much further ahead than you currently are. I understand that there's general stigma against veganism, but truthfully it's just about being healthy. It's not incredibly hard to follow, you just have to be willing to try new things. It's easy to dismiss but ultimately I think it's anyone's best bet if they either love themselves or love animals.
I eat bacon and eggs when I want to, but it's not very often. If you're not comfortable with being full vegan then there are plenty of steps along the way which you can comfortably rest at.
[QUOTE=adadadsd;48990131]I draw my information from the book The China Study [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study[/URL]
The book does successfully isolate the diet from the lifestyle by looking at examples from around the world (including a very comprehensive studies in various parts of China, hence the name.) I don't really think that its very hard to accept that two people who live the exact same lifestyles but one eats only vegtables and the other eats mostly meat and dairy would end up with very situations health wise. Then again you can be vegan and eat oreos exclusively so the book never denies that making an entire lifestyle change would be the most beneficial to your health instead of just a diet change. The two tend to go hand in hand though, once you're conscious of the diet aspect of your health it's easy for that to trickle into other parts of your life.[/QUOTE]
I'll just leave this here, it's an extremely in depth statistical analysis of many of the key China study claims from it's very own data: [URL]http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/[/URL]
You don't need to be a mathematician to see that the author cherry picked numbers in order to prove his point.
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