I wonder if Call of Doggy: Ghosts will get it next. Their realistic dog models makes it really feel like you're shooting a true dog.
[QUOTE=J!NX;42276414]you get pissed off when you have to "kill" something that... doesn't actually exist? doing something in real life VS virtually are two insanely different things.
like I understand the rape part but why are people such fruits about this shit. Every fucking game with an animal someone gets pissed off.[/QUOTE]
it pisses me off when a game forces me to kill animals because it's not an enjoyable experience for me. I'm not worried about actually harming digital animals, but I just don't want to do it in any capacity. in general, games with intense violence against people are set in a world where most if not all the people you kill are not only responsible for their own deaths but their actions warrant violent reactions. when I'm trying to play something like assassin's creed 3 and the developers decide that killing rabbits is paramount to connor's battle against corruption and imperialism it gets annoying real fast. when there's a game like GTA or Skyrim where animals are just there and it's up to you how you interact with them, it's pretty pathetic that people get offended by this.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42276926]it pisses me off when a game forces me to kill animals because it's not an enjoyable experience for me. I'm not worried about actually harming digital animals, but I just don't want to do it in any capacity. in general, games with intense violence against people are set in a world where most if not all the people you kill are not only responsible for their own deaths but their actions warrant violent reactions. when I'm trying to play something like assassin's creed 3 and the developers decide that killing rabbits is paramount to connor's battle against corruption and imperialism it gets annoying real fast. when there's a game like GTA or Skyrim where animals are just there and it's up to you how you interact with them, it's pretty pathetic that people get offended by this.[/QUOTE]
funny thing about AC3, I heard less bitching about AC3 than BF3 and others games over 1 rat in BF3
Conner the mass bunny genocide king where you kill masses of animals just because VS 1 rat
and I think that's at least way more rational than how these people bitch. I try and be a saint in games with choice, but nothing phases me. If I'm going to torture a man in game, he's going to get fucked up. other's don't seem to be the same.
Let's boycott these retarded boycotts.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42277269]killing rabbits isnt paramount to connor killing off the templars, but it was a thing that the native americans did to get food, and in the context of when you are forced to kill them, they are doing it for food
but man if you hate that you'd hate gta5's hunting diversion; you are often tasked to kill animals in very specific ways, i.e. shooting cougars with grenade launchers, running over boars with your atv, etc.[/QUOTE]
don't I have a choice not to do it?
I don't get how certain groups can get so riled up over animals being killed in a video game as opposed to people getting killed in a video game.
It really makes it seem like if they HAD to choose between killing a dog or a person they'd choose the person.
[editline]22nd September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42276926]it pisses me off when a game forces me to kill animals because it's not an enjoyable experience for me. I'm not worried about actually harming digital animals, but I just don't want to do it in any capacity. in general, games with intense violence against people are set in a world where most if not all the people you kill are not only responsible for their own deaths but their actions warrant violent reactions. when I'm trying to play something like assassin's creed 3 and the developers decide that killing rabbits is paramount to connor's battle against corruption and imperialism it gets annoying real fast. when there's a game like GTA or Skyrim where animals are just there and it's up to you how you interact with them, it's pretty pathetic that people get offended by this.[/QUOTE]
Considering how Native American's worked it was way more justified for Connor to kill animals than to kill people.
How about they actually take the time to build animal shelters and-
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;42273473]Yeah have fun with that boycott, this is Rockstar's face right now
[img]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17y3veprlz40cjpg/original.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Hold the phone why is that stock photo so specific
off topic about the idiotic boycott do you think rockstar is ready for gtaonline? I personally don't think so for one ever since the game sold 90% of the time you cant get into social club let alone effectively create crews if the basic website functions are being overloaded with users i cant imagine how many people will be trying to jump online once mp launches they better buy servers and i mean ALOT of servers
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;42277692]
Considering how Native American's worked it was way more justified for Connor to kill animals than to kill people.[/QUOTE]
connor's character is not predominantly a native american. he is an assassin fighting for a cause who happens to be native american. running around in the woods killing rabbits is likely not how a person like that would spend their time in such a situation. and it's just one example. another one is far cry 3. ''oh, I'm stuck on this island with a bunch of lunatics trying to kill me and some tribe is basically worshiping me? I better grab my .45 caliber pistol and hunt some fucking boars''. and it essentially forces you to waste your time with that shit all the way through the game because it's the only way to upgrade your gear.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42278899]using that logic, they should get rid of all of the driving that isn't in a cop chase or in a time limit in gta
after all, it is useless and doesn't belong there at all
also; at the time where you are forced to hunt in ac3, you are only native american, literally no assassin influence is in you at all as your mother didn't tell you about haythem
similarly for fc3, the hunting mechanic is there to make the player feel like they are trying to survive on the island, by using the materials provided by the plants and animals of the island to stay alive[/QUOTE]
people expect driving in GTA, many people buy it for basically that singular purpose. driving is an extremely large part of GTA's core. when I buy GTA V, I'm buying it to be able to drive vehicles among other things. when I bought AC3, I wasn't buying it to chase animals around in the woods. and saying you weren't an assassin yet in that part is a moot point because that still doesn't make it any more relevant to the plot. it would be very easy to convey a survival experience without the forced hunting of animals, and if ''survival'' is what they were going for they failed miserably because that game makes you a fucking tank.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42278969]some people bought fc3 for the hunting
people buy gta for a huge number of reasons
also in ac3, the hunting was forced to get connor out of the village for a plot device
would you rather he was tasked by his elders to go kill brits to come back to the burning village?[/QUOTE]
I feel like it was really the other way around. hunting was a new mechanic they added and they clearly decided that you were going to be forced to complete the tutorial for it and that section of the story happens to be a convenient place to put it. my whole point is, I don't care if a game *allows* you to do things but when it forces me to do something that I ethically and morally disagree with it detracts from the experience very much. from the standpoint of someone opposed to violence against animals even in the context of a video game, the people making these criticisms of GTA V are dumb and that's all I have to say about this.
Blast people away and run them over with a truck - yes
Shoot all manner of authorities - yes
Self-harm (car stunts and head flops) - yes
Use a dog as a football - hell NO
It's rated R18+, for mature people, but I guess...
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42279540]I feel like it was really the other way around. hunting was a new mechanic they added and they clearly decided that you were going to be forced to complete the tutorial for it and that section of the story happens to be a convenient place to put it. my whole point is, I don't care if a game *allows* you to do things but when it forces me to do something that I ethically and morally disagree with it detracts from the experience very much. from the standpoint of someone opposed to violence against animals even in the context of a video game, the people making these criticisms of GTA V are dumb and that's all I have to say about this.[/QUOTE]
The only time you're forced to hunt is when he's actually still with his tribe, so it was to feed people and like some other guy in here said was a plot device to get him out of the village.
You have no issue killing people in that game though?
in the total war series horses die by the thousand and there are units dedicated to hardcountering cavalry
now THAT'S institutionalized fucking violence
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;42282648]The only time you're forced to hunt is when he's actually still with his tribe, so it was to feed people and like some other guy in here said was a plot device to get him out of the village.
You have no issue killing people in that game though?[/QUOTE]
no issue with killing soldiers who are throwing away their lives for greed, no. I generally don't have an issue with killing people because there's not a lot of games that let you kill people who haven't earned a gruesome death. I also wasn't raised to think killing people in real life is ok, so there are no feelings of guilt or discomfort when I'm forced to do it in a game because the context remains fictional. I can't say the same for animals. the issue also lies with the fact that when a game decides to force me to do these things, it becomes an instance of having to sit back and watch the game indulge itself which is tedious and extremely boring. I would compare my experience here with button mashing quick time events, poorly made unskippable cut scenes or heavily scripted set pieces where you're in a burning building or some nonsense like that.
it seems like you're just making a weird exception for animals
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;42283297]it seems like you're just making a weird exception for animals[/QUOTE]
kind if like what you're doing with humans in real life.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42283528]kind if like what you're doing with humans in real life.[/QUOTE]
except if I thought it was more okay to kill a rabbit than a person I'd be fucked in the head, i'm pretty sure this is normal.
I'm not saying you can't feel bad for killing animals in games, I've totally had that before, I'm just trying to understand it
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;42283582]except if I thought it was more okay to kill a rabbit than a person I'd be fucked in the head, i'm pretty sure this is normal.
I'm not saying you can't feel bad for killing animals in games, I've totally had that before, I'm just trying to understand it[/QUOTE]
it's not really limited to games, it's just worse when you have to actively control a character and make them do something you don't agree with. the only explanation I can offer is that when I encounter games like AC3 it forces me to relive the moment where I realized that I'd been taking lives every time I sat down to eat a meal. obligatory disclaimer that everything in this post is not part of a debate I'm trying to make and simply acts as an attempt at an explanation.
Replace 'GTA V' with any other installment of the series and you basically get the same shit as ever when a new GTA game is released.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;42283666]it's not really limited to games, it's just worse when you have to actively control a character and make them do something you don't agree with. the only explanation I can offer is that when I encounter games like AC3 it forces me to relive the moment where I realized that I'd been taking lives every time I sat down to eat a meal. obligatory disclaimer that everything in this post is not part of a debate I'm trying to make and simply acts as an attempt at an explanation.[/QUOTE]
That makes so much sense.
Don't worry I understand now. :v:
[QUOTE=Siduron;42283988]Replace 'GTA V' with any other installment of the series and you basically get the same shit as ever when a new GTA game is released.[/QUOTE]
Naw this one is new, I can't remember any other GTA game having actual wildlife.
[editline]24th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;42289964]no animals to kill in san andreas below
[B]gta4 had the pigeons but i dont think peta gives too much of a fuck about them[/B][/QUOTE]
Double standards! Think of the poor pigeons.
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