[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23864389]Well then you clearly aren't very well educated in religious texts.[/QUOTE]
Again, you're being presumptuous. I'm reading these texts like crazy right now because I wish to settle my beliefs once and for all.
If you don't think the bible can be astronomically fucked up, read Leviticus .
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23864600]Have you personally been attacked by a Muslim or something? Surely there must be some ulterior motive for how much you hate Muslims. Hindu's murdered Muslims, even when they were both united against Britain they still murdered each other, I'm not talking about ancient history like you are but if we're going down that road Christians fought pogroms against Jews in central Europe, caused hundreds of years of suppresion of intellectuals and largely fucked up Europe not to mention the Crusades in both the East and in Russia and Eastern Europe, I don't think you can blame THOSE ones on Muslims invading the East.[/QUOTE]
The fact that Muslims are against and want to destroy everything I cherish like freedom does kind of make it very personal. Hindus murdered Muslims yes, while Muslims murdered Hindus. Islam has been expanding and murdering everyone along the way since it's creation, to say the Hindus are "responsible" for the religious violence is atrocious as they are defending themselves from Muslim aggression and supremacy, and have been more many hundreds of years. I'm not defending Christians killing people, I never have, but the amount of people they've killed is nowhere near the Muslim count, and doesn't continue to happen to this day, and isn't mandated by their religion to keep happening forever until the entire world is Christian. Your entire argument is rationalization through ignorance.
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[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23864685]Again, you're being presumptuous. I'm reading these texts like crazy right now because I wish to settle my beliefs once and for all.
If you don't think the bible can be astronomically fucked up, read Leviticus .[/QUOTE]
That shit only applies to Israelites in the promised land, not everyone in the entire world everywhere.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23864729]The fact that Muslims are against and want to destroy everything I cherish like freedom does kind of make it very personal[/QUOTE]
Way to generalize. I've met some very nice Muslims who like freedom and everything associated with it.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23864729]That shit only applies to Israelites in the promised land, not everyone in the entire world everywhere.[/QUOTE]
Quote me the bible verse(s) that say this, please
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23864729]The fact that Muslims are against and want to destroy everything I cherish like freedom does kind of make it very personal. Hindus murdered Muslims yes, while Muslims murdered Hindus. Islam has been expanding and murdering everyone along the way since it's creation, to say the Hindus are "responsible" for the religious violence is atrocious as they are defending themselves from Muslim aggression and supremacy, and have been more many hundreds of years. I'm not defending Christians killing people, I never have, but the amount of people they've killed is nowhere near the Muslim count, and doesn't continue to happen to this day, and isn't mandated by their religion to keep happening forever until the entire world is Christian. Your entire argument is rationalization through ignorance.
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Well, about the freedom crap I guess I agree, all radical wings of religion will destroy freedom. But what I'm trying to say is, Islam isn't a evil religion, RELIGION is a evil religion. And that's a lie, Christians have killed just as much if not more. Take a look at the violent religious colonization of Africa, Australia, New Zealand and America. The use of ecclestial law throughout European history, the extremely violent pogroms against Slavic pagans. You are incredibly biased and you're a fucking joke. You're no athiest. You are a Christian apologist Islamaphobic moron.
What? I don't care if you believe in God or not, Islam has a violent agenda, and I want to make people aware of this. I don't support the war in Iraq, there is no risk to America that requires them to be in Iraq, where they should be is Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria (and maybe Turkey). Richard Dawkins and Pat Condell are talking about entirely different issues, who cares who is more famous. Calling Hitler Christian is a joke, and are you suggesting what he did had to do with Christian beliefs? It doesn't matter if people are Christian or Muslim, what matters is why people do what they do, and I don't see world-wide genocide in the name of Jesus
It really does not take much time and skill to say I am killing in the name of ect. How do you think Corrupt people get their in the first place? Violent Agenda pshhhhhhhhhhh. We just want americans out of our politics and such, but you really cant blame all the muslims for blowing up the World trade center. Pakistan? Are you joking??????? The Pakistani Goverment is mostly secular, and did you know their are bars in pakistan? Brothels? Porn websites? Porn? You name it they have it their in Pakistan. Syria is even doing shit right now, and saudi arabia bows down to anyone with a American Visa. Did you know the punishment for suicide is stabbing yourself over and over again in the after life? suicide bombing is not something a good muslim would do. Muslims have made many scientific discoveries, and they did not Cannibalize anything =/. We can go on, but you wont gain anything.
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23864817]Quote me the bible verse(s) that say this, please[/QUOTE]
I think it would be much easier for me and would keep you out of the thread for much longer if you find one that doesn't.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23864761]Way to generalize. I've met some very nice Muslims who like freedom and everything associated with it.[/QUOTE]
What a solid argument on the Islamic ideology. I admit defeat. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23864822]Well, about the freedom crap I guess I agree, all radical wings of religion will destroy freedom. But what I'm trying to say is, Islam isn't a evil religion, RELIGION is a evil religion. And that's a lie, Christians have killed just as much if not more. Take a look at the violent religious colonization of Africa, Australia, New Zealand and America. The use of ecclestial law throughout European history, the extremely violent pogroms against Slavic pagans. You are incredibly biased and you're a fucking joke. You're no athiest. You are a Christian apologist Islamaphobic moron.[/QUOTE]
Well I've already been over that Islam has killed substantially more. And I would agree on that other point, but I would say Islam is by far the evilest. And again, I never said Christianity was perfect, but the argument that in the modern world, Islam is not a threat because Christians were bad hundreds of years ago too is asinine. You can think whatever you want.
[QUOTE=Afgman;23864833]It really does not take much time and skill to say I am killing in the name of ect. How do you think Corrupt people get their in the first place? Violent Agenda pshhhhhhhhhhh. We just want americans out of our politics and such, but you really cant blame all the muslims for blowing up the World trade center. Pakistan? Are you joking??????? The Pakistani Goverment is mostly secular, and did you know their are bars in pakistan? Brothels? Porn websites? Porn? You name it they have it their in Pakistan. Syria is even doing shit right now, and saudi arabia bows down to anyone with a American Visa. Did you know the punishment for suicide is stabbing yourself over and over again in the after life? suicide bombing is not something a good muslim would do. Muslims have made many scientific discoveries, and they did not Cannibalize anything =/. We can go on, but you wont gain anything.[/QUOTE]
I really have no idea what you're trying to say for the first part, but I know that Islamist Jihadis following the messages of the Qu'ran flew planes into the the WTC. I know Pakistan is extremely Islamist, funds terrorists, and has nukes. I know Saudi Arabia is in good with America and is using that to subversively Islamify the United States. I know you don't know anything about what you're talking about for Islam, although my guess right now is you're a Muslim yourself and you're following the principles of taqiyya. It really seems to be you people who aren't gaining anything and keep saying the same shit and making the same ignorant rationalizations. Have fun when you are either dead or Dhimmified. History will vindicate me. My rebuttals are for any on-the-fence people who read these threads who are capable of critical thought.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23864976]I think it would be much easier for me and would keep you out of the thread for much longer if you find one that doesn't.[/QUOTE]
You just don't wanna admit that Islam isn't the only fucked up abrahamic religion because you're some kind of christian apologist
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23865089]You just don't wanna admit that Islam isn't the only fucked up abrahamic religion because you're some kind of christian apologist[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep strawmanning me. I don't even want to make the thread about Christianity, it was about Islam. It's you guys who's argument is that since Christianity is bad, it doesn't matter that Islam is bad. The fact that Islam is so much worse, and how much worse it is is so much more relevant today, whereas the past crimes of Christianity are not, continues to elude you despite excessively mounting evidence. I am talking about the Islamic ideology. I am not talking about [B]ALL[/B] Muslims, I am talking about their religious mandates, and where non-Muslims fit into that. Non-Muslims mostly fit in by being dead.
I really have no idea what you're trying to say for the first part, but I know that Islamist Jihadis following the messages of the Qu'ran flew planes into the the WTC. I know Pakistan is extremely Islamist, funds terrorists, and has nukes. I know Saudi Arabia is in good with America and is using that to subversively Islamify the United States. I know you don't know anything about what you're talking about for Islam, although my guess right now is you're a Muslim yourself and you're following the principles of taqiyya. It really seems to be you people who aren't gaining anything and keep saying the same shit and making the same ignorant rationalizations. Have fun when you are either dead or Dhimmified. History will vindicate me. My rebuttals are for any on-the-fence people who read these threads who are capable of critical thought.
I lol'd so hard when you said Pakistan supports such things. The Pakistan Gov. is in ruins right now the Prime minister Zaldari has left the country and has stole tons of the reserves of Pakistan and is now living in a palace in England. Google mr. 10%. And taqiyya is only used if something like the holocaust is happening, but to muslims. Go read some Quran and get some basic facts straight. Have fun when you are either dead or Dhimmified( so you want me to die?) History will vindicate you, right on man put yourself on a higher level than us, and throw in the History will vindicate me line. My rebuttals are for any on-the-fence people who read these threads who are capable of critical thought. Sure as hell seems you are not capable of critical thinking, heh. I have seen your comments on youtube I know what you really are :).
Why do you keep strawmanning me. I don't even want to make the thread about Christianity, it was about Islam. It's you guys who's argument is that since Christianity is bad, it doesn't matter that Islam is bad. The fact that Islam is so much worse, and how much worse it is is so much more relevant today, whereas the past crimes of Christianity are not, continues to elude you despite excessively mounting evidence. I am talking about the Islamic ideology. I am not talking about ALL Muslims, I am talking about their religious mandates, and where non-Muslims fit into that. Non-Muslims mostly fit in by being dead.
Obvsly you are on the other side of the stick, and honestly no one really cares about this shit on Facepunch, and its Freaking facepunch! You can blabber all you want, but all you are doing right now is throwing peanuts at a building and hoping it will explode.
"@Enlightend Is trolling pointing out you're a retard now? A good portion of land was conquered by Israel in wars started by Arabs. The rest was given to them by the British, which the planning for starting long before the holocaust. Israel has nukes and doesn't want others to have them. Why? Does Israel routinely called for the destruction of it's neighbours? Does it routinely call for genocide of all the Arabs? Has Israel ever said it wants to wipe Iran off the map? The answer is no you retard
^ Why would anyone want to reveal such hideous intentions?
Most of this guys youtube comments are funny as hell and worth a read. Ironically he gets his ass kicked every where he goes...
[QUOTE=Afgman;23865303]I lol'd so hard when you said Pakistan supports such things. The Pakistan Gov. is in ruins right now the Prime minister Zaldari has left the country and has stole tons of the reserves of Pakistan and is now living in a palace in England. Google mr. 10%. And taqiyya is only used if something like the holocaust is happening, but to muslims. Go read some Quran and get some basic facts straight. Have fun when you are either dead or Dhimmified( so you want me to die?) History will vindicate you, right on man put yourself on a higher level than us, and throw in the History will vindicate me line. My rebuttals are for any on-the-fence people who read these threads who are capable of critical thought. Sure as hell seems you are not capable of critical thinking, heh. I have seen your comments on youtube I know what you really are :).[/QUOTE]
So how does that relate to Pakistan not being extremely Islamist, which it entirely is. Banning youtube and facebook because of insult against the prophet? Doesn't sound very secular to me. And funding the Taliban? I knew that shit a long time ago, they claim to wipe out terrorists, but they only wipe out the ones against them, the Jihadis thrive in Pakistan. Your whole line on taqiyya is a perfect example of taqiyya itself. I don't want you to die, although I assume its a non-issue since you'll be on the side doing the killing. And my comments on Youtube? You mean these?
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Gargatul0th
2 months ago
@Enlightend It's funny how bad you got told by some guy who can barely speak his own language, and since you don't have shit against what he said you have to claim strawman while strawmanning yourself in the same post. By the way Israel uses guided missile to take out military targets (Muslim terrorists built them on top of* civilian ones), while Muslims just fire blind mortars over the border. The surrounding countries have been instigating war with Israel since day 1. BTW your name is ironic.
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Enlightend
3 weeks ago
@Gargatul0th Got anything to contribute other then trolling? No shit ISreal has guided weapons who doesn't know that? Hurr der people that talk shit about Israel must not know about guided weapons. Only people instigating war are those colonizing land and threatening* to attack those whom have nuclear tec while possessing nukes of their own.
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Gargatul0th
3 weeks ago
@Enlightend Is trolling pointing out you're a retard now? A good portion of land was conquered by Israel in wars started by Arabs. The rest was given to them by the British, which the planning for starting long before the holocaust. Israel has nukes and doesn't want others to have them. Why? Does Israel routinely* called for the destruction of it's neighbours? Does it routinely call for genocide of all the Arabs? Has Israel ever said it wants to wipe Iran off the map? The answer is no you retard.[/release]
Hmm... I'd have to say I'm glad if people can "know what I really am" after reading that.
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[QUOTE=Afgman;23865303]Obvsly you are on the other side of the stick, and honestly no one really cares about this shit on Facepunch, and its Freaking facepunch! You can blabber all you want, but all you are doing right now is throwing peanuts at a building and hoping it will explode.[/QUOTE]
Excellent analogy, mind if I use it?
Pakistan also executes apostates and gays, right?
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and in iran
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Well I've already been over that Islam has killed substantially more. And I would agree on that other point, but I would say Islam is by far the evilest. And again, I never said Christianity was perfect, but the argument that in the modern world, Islam is not a threat because Christians were bad hundreds of years ago too is asinine. You can think whatever you want.
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You have no proof that Islam has killed more. Your only sources are ridiculously biased Christian propaganda that no self respecting Athiest should accept without further study. And if the misdeeds that Christians did don't count anymore then why do you keep bringing up Muslims invasion of the Levant and India? Now what I'm saying is, Islam is not a threat. Christianity is not a threat. Hidu's are not a threat neither are Sihks or Buddhists. EXTREMISTS are the threat. And extremists can come from any walk of life, any race, any religious background.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23865400]So how does that relate to Pakistan not being extremely Islamist, which it entirely is. Banning youtube and facebook because of insult against the prophet? Doesn't sound very secular to me. And funding the Taliban? I knew that shit a long time ago, they claim to wipe out terrorists, but they only wipe out the ones against them, the Jihadis thrive in Pakistan. Your whole line on taqiyya is a perfect example of taqiyya itself. I don't want you to die, although I assume its a non-issue since you'll be on the side doing the killing. And my comments on Youtube? You mean these?
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Gargatul0th
2 months ago
@Enlightend It's funny how bad you got told by some guy who can barely speak his own language, and since you don't have shit against what he said you have to claim strawman while strawmanning yourself in the same post. By the way Israel uses guided missile to take out military targets (Muslim terrorists built them on top of* civilian ones), while Muslims just fire blind mortars over the border. The surrounding countries have been instigating war with Israel since day 1. BTW your name is ironic.
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Enlightend
3 weeks ago
@Gargatul0th Got anything to contribute other then trolling? No shit ISreal has guided weapons who doesn't know that? Hurr der people that talk shit about Israel must not know about guided weapons. Only people instigating war are those colonizing land and threatening* to attack those whom have nuclear tec while possessing nukes of their own.
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Gargatul0th
3 weeks ago
@Enlightend Is trolling pointing out you're a retard now? A good portion of land was conquered by Israel in wars started by Arabs. The rest was given to them by the British, which the planning for starting long before the holocaust. Israel has nukes and doesn't want others to have them. Why? Does Israel routinely* called for the destruction of it's neighbours? Does it routinely call for genocide of all the Arabs? Has Israel ever said it wants to wipe Iran off the map? The answer is no you retard.[/release]
Hmm... I'd have to say I'm glad if people can "know what I really am" after reading that.
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Excellent analogy, mind if I use it?[/QUOTE]
So how does that relate to Pakistan not being extremely Islamist, which it entirely is. Banning youtube and facebook because of insult against the prophet? Doesn't sound very secular to me. And funding the Taliban? I knew that shit a long time ago, they claim to wipe out terrorists, but they only wipe out the ones against them, the Jihadis thrive in Pakistan. Your whole line on taqiyya is a perfect example of taqiyya itself. I don't want you to die, although I assume its a non-issue since you'll be on the side doing the killing. And my comments on Youtube? You mean these?
Funfact: Did you know that the Taliban takes cars loaded with bombs and kills innocent punjabi muslims, and did you know that the Taliban is strongly hated in Pakistan. This was from the request of the pakistani people it would be banned. Your whole line on taqiyya is a perfect example of taqiyya itself. ( so your saying lieing about the intentions of taqiyya = taqiyya Makes sense to me :).) "I don't want you to die, although I assume its a non-issue since you'll be on the side doing the killing."be? You mean these? You don't want me to die, but you just said I was going to get killid and history was gonna vindicate you or something? What killing? funny man funny man.
Pakistan also executes apostates and gays, right?
Their were gay people on the streets in pakistan, and I saw a christan temple in Pakistan. Muslims are taught to be very tolerant = /.
[QUOTE=Afgman;23865465]Funfact: Did you know that the Taliban takes cars loaded with bombs and kills innocent punjabi muslims, and did you know that the Taliban is strongly hated in Pakistan. This was from the request of the pakistani people it would be banned. Your whole line on taqiyya is a perfect example of taqiyya itself. ( so your saying lieing about the intentions of taqiyya = taqiyya Makes sense to me :).) "I don't want you to die, although I assume its a non-issue since you'll be on the side doing the killing."be? You mean these? You don't want me to die, but you just said I was going to get killid and history was gonna vindicate you or something? What killing? funny man funny man.
Pakistan also executes apostates and gays, right?
Their were gay people on the streets in pakistan, and I saw a christan temple in Pakistan. Muslims are taught to be very tolerant = /.[/QUOTE]
Carbombs Punjabi Muslims, like Ahmadiyyas?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2010_attacks_on_Ahmadi_mosques_in_Lahore[/url]
86 dead, for believing in the wrong religion? The Muslims that don't believe in violent Jihad or recognize Muhammad as the final prophet get killed by the violent Jihadis? Or maybe just some run of the mill Sunni vs. Shia bullshit? Pakistan the country that has restrictions on non-Muslim religious practices? They aren't allowed to preach publicly, or try to gain followers, just like the Dhimmi Christians? The only reason there are Christians alive in Pakistan is because the British allowed it back when they had control. Pakistan that executes people for blasphemy? Sounds like a nice place for like for free levelheaded individuals.
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[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23865445]You have no proof that Islam has killed more. Your only sources are ridiculously biased Christian propaganda that no self respecting Athiest should accept without further study. And if the misdeeds that Christians did don't count anymore then why do you keep bringing up Muslims invasion of the Levant and India? Now what I'm saying is, Islam is not a threat. Christianity is not a threat. Hidu's are not a threat neither are Sihks or Buddhists. EXTREMISTS are the threat. And extremists can come from any walk of life, any race, any religious background.[/QUOTE]
Well if that's what you think then you are done.
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Not a threat my ass.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23865637]Carbombs Punjabi Muslims, like Ahmadiyyas?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2010_attacks_on_Ahmadi_mosques_in_Lahore[/url]
86 dead, for believing in the wrong religion? The Muslims that don't believe in violent Jihad or recognize Muhammad as the final prophet get killed by the violent Jihadis? Or maybe just some run of the mill Sunni vs. Shia bullshit? Pakistan the country that has restrictions on non-Muslim religious practices? They aren't allowed to preach publicly, or try to gain followers, just like the Dhimmi Christians? The only reason there are Christians alive in Pakistan is because the British allowed it back when they had control. Pakistan that executes people for blasphemy? Sounds like a nice place for like for free levelheaded individuals.[/QUOTE]
86 dead, for believing in the wrong religion? The Muslims that don't believe in violent Jihad or recognize Muhammad as the final prophet get killed by the violent Jihadis? Or maybe just some run of the mill Sunni vs. Shia bullshit? Pakistan the country that has restrictions on non-Muslim religious practices? They aren't allowed to preach publicly, or try to gain followers, just like the Dhimmi Christians? The only reason there are Christians alive in Pakistan is because the British allowed it back when they had control. Pakistan that executes people for blasphemy? Sounds like a nice place for like for free levelheaded individuals.
I dont know about the preach publicly or try to gain followers, but I can assure you that the law about keeping the christans safe is not about some extreme british control.BTW British never had control of pakistan. Pakistan broke apart after Hindustan ran away the British. Pakistan that executes people for blasphemy I lold when you said this. Did you know that Pakistan Prime minister drank wine with the chinese prime minister, and that pakistani televisions allow some pretty naughty dancing? woman don't wear a hijab during News broadcasting? I can go on, but you are starting to sound like some kind of joke..
I lold at that death list.
Did you know almost 75% of those deaths could have been done in the false nature of islam. Are you counting the deaths of the iraq war, Afghanistan invasion, and lets not forget the honor killings going on in Christan countires?
BTW their can be so much freedom. To much freedom can be bad, but to little can be bad also. Do i have the freedom to go throw a rock on someones car? I guess not.
[QUOTE=Afgman;23865703]I dont know about the preach publicly or try to gain followers, but I can assure you that the law about keeping the christans safe is not about some extreme british control.BTW British never had control of pakistan. Pakistan broke apart after Hindustan ran away the British. Pakistan that executes people for blasphemy I lold when you said this. Did you know that Pakistan Prime minister drank wine with the chinese prime minister, and that pakistani televisions allow some pretty naughty dancing? woman don't wear a hijab during News broadcasting? I can go on, but you are starting to sound like some kind of joke..
I lold at that death list.
Did you know almost 75% of those deaths could have been done in the false nature of islam. Are you counting the deaths of the iraq war, Afghanistan invasion, and lets not forget the honor killings going on in Christan countires?[/QUOTE]
More Taqiyya, oh big deal, he had wine with the Chinese Prime Minister, Pakistan still has a death sentence for blasphemy. Non-Muslims are banned from proselytizing. Non-Muslims are banned from worshiping in public. Apostasy brings a death sentence. I'm sure the number of honour killings in Christian countries is miniscule in comparison to Islamic countries. Try to find me a figure so I can laugh at you more.
[QUOTE=Afgman;23865703]BTW their can be so much freedom. To much freedom can be bad, but to little can be bad also. Do i have the freedom to go throw a rock on someones car? I guess not.[/quote]
Well this just summed you up right here, and you being a Muslim I can understand why you have absolutely no idea what freedom is, and why it should not be infringed upon.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23865637]
*lots of random deaths*
Not a threat my ass.[/QUOTE]
So are you trying to say that every single one of those murders or attacks was purely in the name of Islam? Not one of them was political in motive? Or due to the insanity of the people involved? Because I find that VERY hard to believe.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;23865925]So are you trying to say that every single one of those murders or attacks was purely in the name of Islam? Not one of them was political in motive? Or due to the insanity of the people involved? Because I find that VERY hard to believe.[/QUOTE]
You look 'em up if you don't believe
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23866062]You look 'em up if you don't believe[/QUOTE]
This guy has been inside the minds have 100+ people!!
More Taqiyya, oh big deal, he had wine with the Chinese Prime Minister, Pakistan still has a death sentence for blasphemy. Non-Muslims are banned from proselytizing. Non-Muslims are banned from worshiping in public. Apostasy brings a death sentence. I'm sure the number of honour killings in Christian countries is miniscule in comparison to Islamic countries. Try to find me a figure so I can laugh at you more.
Once again I have lived in pakistan and studied Pakistani history, and can you find me the sources of those Apostasy death sentence? Dude let me correct some stuff for you. Let us google nankana sahib. Did you know nankana sahib is the orgin of the sikh faith, and their is tons of temples and people practiceing outside? You make me laugh really hard. Honestly have you ever visted Pakistan? You seem like someone who is looking these things up and spewing out garbage.
Nankana Sahib being most sacred Sikh place; the location of the birth of the Sikh founder, Guru Nanak is one of the fastest growing towns in Punjab, Pakistan. It is a popular place for Sikhs from all over the world. At the time of Guru Nanak's birth the town was called Rai Bhoe's Talwandi [4] and was also referred to as Raipur. Rai Bular Bhatti was the ruler of this area and Baba Nanak's father was Rai Bular's employee. The divine qualities of Baba Nanak were first discovered by his sister Nanaki and Rai Bular Bhatti. Rai Bular gifted approx. 20,000 acres (81 km2) of land all around the city of Talwandi to Guru Nanak and the town began to be called Nankana Sahib. The town currently has nine gurdwaras including the Gurdwara Janam Asthan which marks the birth place of Guru Nanak Dev. Each of the gurdwaras is related with important events in Guru Nanak's life. Annually, approximately 30,000 Sikh pilgrims visit the town[5], with about 15,000 gathering during the peak season around the birthday celebrations of Guru Nanak.
In 2006 a bus service between the Sikh holy city of Amritsar in India and Nankana Sahib was inaugurated by Manmohan Singh, India's Prime Minister, who himself is a Sikh.
My dad's best friend is sikh..
I speak the truth Freedom is a Idea, but you are always held back by laws and goverment, but that is order.
You mean the Sikhs that were practically wiped out during the partition? Tons of temples? How many of those have been built since the partition? My guess is 0. There is the tiniest population of Sikhs left is Pakistan, and they are still persecuted. Your repeated practice of Taqiyya is fucking revolting.
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[QUOTE=Afgman;23866390]Nankana Sahib being most sacred Sikh place; the location of the birth of the Sikh founder, Guru Nanak is one of the fastest growing towns in Punjab, Pakistan. It is a popular place for Sikhs from all over the world. At the time of Guru Nanak's birth the town was called Rai Bhoe's Talwandi [4] and was also referred to as Raipur. Rai Bular Bhatti was the ruler of this area and Baba Nanak's father was Rai Bular's employee. The divine qualities of Baba Nanak were first discovered by his sister Nanaki and Rai Bular Bhatti. Rai Bular gifted approx. 20,000 acres (81 km2) of land all around the city of Talwandi to Guru Nanak and the town began to be called Nankana Sahib. The town currently has nine gurdwaras including the Gurdwara Janam Asthan which marks the birth place of Guru Nanak Dev. Each of the gurdwaras is related with important events in Guru Nanak's life. Annually, approximately 30,000 Sikh pilgrims visit the town[5], with about 15,000 gathering during the peak season around the birthday celebrations of Guru Nanak.
In 2006 a bus service between the Sikh holy city of Amritsar in India and Nankana Sahib was inaugurated by Manmohan Singh, India's Prime Minister, who himself is a Sikh.
My dad's best friend is sikh..
I speak the truth Freedom is a Idea, but you are always held back by laws and goverment, but that is order.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the history lesson, Pakistan only recently started letting the Sikh do their pilgrimage, and from I read from your own post, this shit is being pushed by India, not Pakistan, and you didn't answer my question about new temples being built, because the Muslim will not allow it. Also yeah, I looked it up, the death sentence for apostasy has only been proposed in Pakistan, that was in 2006, I don't know where it's at know, but what about death for blasphemy? What about the rest of your archaic and draconian Shari'a? You haven't even touched on anything that I've said.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23866495]You mean the Sikhs that were practically wiped out during the partition? Tons of temples? How many of those have been built since the partition? My guess is 0. There is the tiniest population of Sikhs left is Pakistan, and they are still persecuted. Your repeated practice of Taqiyya is fucking revolting.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean I was their last year and they made new temples and added new water systems to the ritual bath. Lol @ persecuted my friends dad son went their last year by air and I did not see any Persecution.
Thanks for the history lesson, Pakistan only recently started letting the Sikh do their pilgrimage, and from I read from your own post, this shit is being pushed by India, not Pakistan, and you didn't answer my question about new temples being built, because the Muslim will not allow it. Also yeah, I looked it up, the death sentence for apostasy has only been proposed in Pakistan, that was in 2006, I don't know where it's at know, but what about death for blasphemy? What about the rest of your archaic and draconian Shari'a? You haven't even touched on anything that I've said.
Notice Proposed. See you are wrong again. Well, I have visted Saudi Arabia and it seems to be peaceful enough. One of my best friends has spent 7 years in saudi arabia and in Bahrain and he liked it. TBH I have never went to Iran so I do not know how it works, but I plan to visit their soon :). What do you mean I have touched alot of your subjects ?
Built some new ones karachi and Quetta not to long ago.
Oh this is a glorious bit a Taqiyya. There was one place in Karachi for it's tiny minority of 3000 to worship in, "Also, there was an element of fear being a minority community, points out Saradr Karan Singh Rai", I wonder what they have to be scared of if Pakistan is a free society? This "new" temple was one taken from them after a dispute with Hindus, and they want it back because they consider it sacred as [B]250 Sikhs were murdered there during the partition.[/B] Although there have been frivolous complaints against them already, complaints that were only taken seriously because of the restrictions that Pakistan puts on non-Muslims, they now worship there as well. Here is the place:
[img]http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/February/karachi-1.jpg[/img][img]http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/February/karachi-2.jpg[/img]
Looks decadent...
Haven't been able to find anything on Quetta other than Taliban killing Sikhs there, care to do a bit of your own research to attempt prove what you say.
Condell is some sort of fascist who wants to ban religion, and he's also an Islamaphobe who thinks that all Muslims are out blowing themselves up, flying planes into buildings, or beheading others
condell could be described as some kind of a fundamentalist atheist
Freedom has been used so much I am not sure anymore as to what is freedom.
First he said the Sun was God. And now that FREEDOM is his religion. I can't help but think that he is MORE religious than an average religious person let alone an atheist :v:
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23875749]condell could be described as some kind of a fundamentalist atheist[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militant_atheism[/url]
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23874598]Oh this is a glorious bit a Taqiyya. There was one place in Karachi for it's tiny minority of 3000 to worship in, "Also, there was an element of fear being a minority community, points out Saradr Karan Singh Rai", I wonder what they have to be scared of if Pakistan is a free society? This "new" temple was one taken from them after a dispute with Hindus, and they want it back because they consider it sacred as [B]250 Sikhs were murdered there during the partition.[/B] Although there have been frivolous complaints against them already, complaints that were only taken seriously because of the restrictions that Pakistan puts on non-Muslims, they now worship there as well. Here is the place:
[img]http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/February/karachi-1.jpg[/img][img]http://www.sikhnet.com/files/news/2010/February/karachi-2.jpg[/img]
Looks decadent...
Haven't been able to find anything on Quetta other than Taliban killing Sikhs there, care to do a bit of your own research to attempt prove what you say.[/QUOTE]
Let us play correct someone who blindly quotes something :).
250 Sikhs were murderd on a marty with the hindus. Thus making it relevant to the Sikh community. That Debunks your theory. Your looking like a idiot right now by saying I am using Taqiyya. "after a dispute between the Hindu and Sikh communities, was opened in 2005 for six months but was again closed. The matter has been pending in court since then." Hindus vs Sikh.
The Reason why they are not rebuilding it is because 1.) The Temple is in ruins 2.) The College nextdoor to it is making complaints about it. They demanded the Education board to shut it down. It isnt even demolished yet they are still bickering over it.
Taliban kills anyone they blow themselvs up in masques and they kill a bunch of innocent Punjabi muslims.
Can you get anymore funnier?
[url]http://www.sikhnet.com/news/karachi-sikhs-demand-return-gurdwara[/url]
Making up fake quotes? You must be getting desprate.
Pat condell is a joke, and if you want to go see a real athiest go to Richard Dawkins or something.
Taliban blows up Innocent muslims almost every day. It says in the Quran to give woman education, but the taliban deny it to them. Honestly taliban are following a code called pashtunwali.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFn7LaP9O80[/url]
"Seeking to topple the Gov."
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23875749]condell could be described as some kind of a fundamentalist atheist[/QUOTE]
Anyone who uses the term fundamentalist atheist or militant atheist has lost the conversation.
That is all.
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