Wow, the Sikhs killed during the partition were not killed by Hindus, they were killed by Muslims, as were many Hindus killed by Muslims. The dispute about the building in 2005 was with the Hindus, I said that, and the reason the college next door complains about them praying openly is because that is not allowed in Pakistan for non-Muslims. Many Muslims consider eachother infidels for differing views, only the Ahmadiyya are the ones not espousing violent Jihad, and now they are being killed, all of it is fueled by Muslim hate and religious violence. The reason you want me to go to Richard Dawkins is because he doesn't talk about your people, Pan Condell tells the truth about you, that's why you want to suppress him. Everything you've said is a joke, most of it is Taqiyya, you haven't touched on anything I've said, all you do is divert attention and lie. You are a disgusting human being. I can barely even call you that.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23880050]Wow, the Sikhs killed during the partition were not killed by Hindus, they were killed by Muslims, as were many Hindus killed by Muslims. The dispute about the building in 2005 was with the Hindus, I said that, and the reason the college next door complains about them praying openly is because that is not allowed in Pakistan for non-Muslims. Many Muslims consider eachother infidels for differing views, only the Ahmadiyya are the ones not espousing violent Jihad, and now they are being killed, all of it is fueled by Muslim hate and religious violence. The reason you want me to go to Richard Dawkins is because he doesn't talk about your people, Pan Condell tells the truth about you, that's why you want to suppress him. Everything you've said is a joke, most of it is Taqiyya, you haven't touched on anything I've said, all you do is divert attention and lie. You are a disgusting human being. I can barely even call you that.[/QUOTE]
The Partion of Pakistan? That was a war against hindus vs muslims vs sikhs. Since both had enough tensions the sikhs killid lots of hindus and the muslims killid hindus. Both Side had major losses. Because Muslims were moving and at the same time Hindus were moving so they were bound to have fights broken out. You are so desprate you call me a disgusting human being. Wow some really cool guy you are, but you know your getting your ass handed to everyone on this forums. Did you know how many Hindus got shot and how many muslims got shot by the British, and how many casualties they were in the Afghan Anglo war? All you are doing is spewing out more lies. You blindly follow Pat Condell. Pat Condell has said something about a Sun God and he is just a complete idiot. He even made a video about tom cruise for some "Attention." I have touched on evrey subject you made all you do is spew out bull shit that I have to waste my time correcting.. Richard Dawkins is neutral, and Pat Condell is some islamphobic guy. This is the reason why Richard Dawkins is more famous than Pat condell and you.Everything you've said is a joke, most of it is Taqiyya. No Human is perfect, and just because you are muslims does not mean you are fault free. Look at all the murders in America christans are doing, and are you counting the murders of tons of muslims in Spain? You are a complete utter Joke.
More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”.
More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”.
More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”.
Can you get any more funnier?
You may have missed where no one has really refuted ANY of what I have said in ANY of the threads I post in. You can't, because the Muslim scholars and clerics agree with [B]me[/B]. You also may have missed where I said I haven't seen any of Pat Condell's other videos and only found this one relevant as he is talking about all the kind of retards I argue with on this forum. You also may have missed where Muslims have been violently oppressing Sikhs and Hindus for over a thousand years and during the partition there were many instances of the Hindus and the Sikhs working together. You also may have missed where the fact that someone killed someone else and one or both may be Christian has nothing to do with the discussion unless the person killed them [B]FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS.[/B] I think that maybe you actually didn't miss all that but since you're such a delusional fucking lying Muslim who just will keep posting as you do.
[quote=a fucking liar]More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”.
More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”.
More than 50 Gurdwaras were attacked. Thousands of Indian troops attacked Darbar Sahib just to flush out some 250 Sikhs or so called “terrorists”.[/quote]
[B]THE EVENT YOU ARE QUOTING FROM HAPPENED IN 1984
CAN YOU LIE MORE PLEASE? IT ONLY HELPS MY CASE.[/B]
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23881065]You may have missed where no one has really refuted ANY of what I have said in ANY of the threads I post in. You can't, because the Muslim scholars and clerics agree with [B]me[/B]. You also may have missed where I said I haven't seen any of Pat Condell's other videos and only found this one relevant as he is talking about all the kind of retards I argue with on this forum. You also may have missed where Muslims have been violently oppressing Sikhs and Hindus for over a thousand years and during the partition there were many instances of the Hindus and the Sikhs working together. You also may have missed where the fact that someone killed someone else and one or both may be Christian has nothing to do with the discussion unless the person killed them [B]FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS.[/B] I think that maybe you actually didn't miss all that but since you're such a delusional fucking lying Muslim who just will keep posting as you do.
I can see signs of desperation.
1.) you insulted me again by saying " fucking lying muslim."
2.) you insulted me again by saying " fucking liar posted."
3.) you made a false quote
4.) you are protecting pat condell like a prophet of truth.
Can you find me these Sheikhs or imams that agree with you? retards I argue with on this forum.(You are calling everyone who does not agree with you a "retard?" Talk about a man who promotes freedom. You also may have missed where Muslims have been violently oppressing Sikhs and Hindus ( Hindus have never been opressed, and go study your history about rajputs and hindustan... Muslims were on the bad side of the stick in hidustan.. Sikhs have never been opressed they have been warred against only during the partion of pakistan by Hindus and muslims.) Many sikhs have alot of places of worship in ninkasahib which is not to far from karachi or Lahore. Christian has nothing to do with the discussion unless the person killed them [B]FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS. ( The Spanish inquisition was not relgious?) ( The Murders of "heathens") ( The Murders of Pagans?). Anyone can use the word I did it for Relgion in order to do bad things. How do you think Hitler got into power? He used Jewish hate. Hitler met with many popes during the time of WWII. Anything Else?
[B]THE EVENT YOU ARE QUOTING FROM HAPPENED IN 1984
CAN YOU LIE MORE PLEASE? IT ONLY HELPS MY CASE.[/B][/QUOTE]
These things really happend? Thus meaning Hindus have done bad to them also. Thus it is not a lie?
Prominent Sikh Gurus were martyred by Mughals for opposing some Mughal emperors' ... The months leading up to the partition of India in 1947
Notice the word Opposing a empire?
They opposed a empire....
BTW.
The Taliban says they are doing Jihad, but What kind of Jihad is it when you go into Pakistan with a car full of bombs and blow it up and kill innocent muslims? So many Muslims have been murderd duo to the Taliban and their are more dieing each day. The pakistan muslim community hates the Taliban. People in north Wazirstan hate the Taliban also, and that is where the taliban is born. The Taliban is made up of people called Pashtuns. Pashtuns were a warrior like people who fought for the mughals and ottoman sultans. Pashtuns follow a warrior code called Pashtunwali, and if you see a video about Taliban the Taliban clearly hate Punjabis, but Punjabis are muslim? Its something called Culture... People mix culture with Islam alot. Islam does not allow genital mutalation of a woman, and it does not allow you to go kill your own people. The Taliban run alot of sucide missions and they kill their own pashtuns brothers in the process. Right now the taliban is going after Pashtuns who oppose them, and alot of pash
tuns in kabul really oppose them. So we will see how this one unfolds.
Take a cruise Tom?
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzMHrVCgU38&feature=related[/url]
Switched to Islam to Scientology?
He says he is catholic clearly he has some love left for that relgion..
Pat Condell has no political worth.
Wow, you are so much worse than I could have imagined, thank you for continuing to post though, it's destroying your credibility.
Post where I made a false quote, post where I said protect Pat Condell "like a prophet of truth", I already posted a list in another thread you've posted in, but here you go again:
From early Muslims and Sahaba such as Caliphs Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Ibn Abbas, Abu Huraira, Ibn Ubayd, to the medieval era scholars such as al-Shafi’i, Abu Yusuf, al-Shaybani, al-Bayhaqi, Ibn Abi Zayd, Al-Mawardi, Al-Ghazali, Ibn Taymiyyah, Averroes, Ibn Abidin, Ibn Qudamah, Ibn Qayyim, Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Hudayl, al-Suyuti, al-Asqalani, Al-Amili, Naqib al-Misri, Ibn Ahmed Ramli, Al-Hilli, Ziauddin Barani, Burhanuddin Ali, Sirhindi, al-Majlisi, Wali-Allah, and modern scholars like Sayyid Qutb, Hasan al-Bana, Iqbal, Maududi, Farahi, Nadvi, Shibli Nomani, Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Ibn Baaz, al-Qaradawi, Mian Tufail Mohammad, al-Khoe, Israr Ahmed, Majid Khadduri, Bassam Tibi, M.S Ramadan al-Buti, Ruhollah Khomeini, Sayyid Tantawy, Nasiruddin al-Albani, amongst many, many others.
Hindus were never oppressed?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus#During_Islamic_rule_of_the_Indian_sub-continent[/url]
[I]The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period.[/I]
The "unofficial" estimation is about 80 million Hindus.
And you blame the Sikhs for fighting back against a violently oppressive regime where they were made not just second class citizen, but lower forms of life, with barely any rights?
Yeah Hindus and Sikh have killed eachother, it's not a complete lie, but it is [B]EXTREMELY[/B] dishonest, at some point outright lies, and generally right in line with the practice of Taqiyya.
Seriously, keep posting, it ain't hurting me...
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;23879915]Anyone who uses the term fundamentalist atheist or militant atheist has lost the conversation.
That is all.[/QUOTE]
good point, i just realized how dumb what i said was
(I probably should refrain from anymore religious discussion)
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afgman u r so crazy
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23881903]Wow, you are so much worse than I could have imagined, thank you for continuing to post though, it's destroying your credibility.
Post where I made a false quote, post where I said protect Pat Condell "like a prophet of truth", I already posted a list in another thread you've posted in, but here you go again:
From early Muslims and Sahaba such as Caliphs Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Ibn Abbas, Abu Huraira, Ibn Ubayd, to the medieval era scholars such as al-Shafi’i, Abu Yusuf, al-Shaybani, al-Bayhaqi, Ibn Abi Zayd, Al-Mawardi, Al-Ghazali, Ibn Taymiyyah, Averroes, Ibn Abidin, Ibn Qudamah, Ibn Qayyim, Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Hudayl, al-Suyuti, al-Asqalani, Al-Amili, Naqib al-Misri, Ibn Ahmed Ramli, Al-Hilli, Ziauddin Barani, Burhanuddin Ali, Sirhindi, al-Majlisi, Wali-Allah, and modern scholars like Sayyid Qutb, Hasan al-Bana, Iqbal, Maududi, Farahi, Nadvi, Shibli Nomani, Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Ibn Baaz, al-Qaradawi, Mian Tufail Mohammad, al-Khoe, Israr Ahmed, Majid Khadduri, Bassam Tibi, M.S Ramadan al-Buti, Ruhollah Khomeini, Sayyid Tantawy, Nasiruddin al-Albani, amongst many, many others.
Hindus were never oppressed?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus#During_Islamic_rule_of_the_Indian_sub-continent[/url]
[I]The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period.[/I]
The "unofficial" estimation is about 80 million Hindus.
And you blame the Sikhs for fighting back against a violently oppressive regime where they were made not just second class citizen, but lower forms of life, with barely any rights?
Yeah Hindus and Sikh have killed eachother, it's not a complete lie, but it is [B]EXTREMELY[/B] dishonest, at some point outright lies, and generally right in line with the practice of Taqiyya.
Seriously, keep posting, it ain't hurting me...[/QUOTE]
]Wow, you are so much worse than I could have imagined, thank you for continuing to post though, it's destroying your credibility.
^ You mad or something?
How much more longer am I gonna go on with this?
"Suggests a calculation."
This is a Suggested Calculation and Their is no True estimate to how many Hindus were killid during that time.
And I lold at that Will Durrant Quote. If you read his books a little more he also said. Scythians, Huns, Afghans, and Turks
The Turkish sultans were the most prominent thou, but their is alot of propaganda being spread about them making pyramids with the heads of hindus and eating 3 feasts per day. All these happenned during war or in an attempt to consolidate the political power.
Funny funny stuff eh?
From early Muslims and Sahaba such as Caliphs Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Ibn Abbas, Abu Huraira, Ibn Ubayd, to the medieval era scholars such as al-Shafi’i, Abu Yusuf, al-Shaybani, al-Bayhaqi, Ibn Abi Zayd, Al-Mawardi, Al-Ghazali, Ibn Taymiyyah, Averroes, Ibn Abidin, Ibn Qudamah, Ibn Qayyim, Ibn Khaldun, Ibn Hudayl, al-Suyuti, al-Asqalani, Al-Amili, Naqib al-Misri, Ibn Ahmed Ramli, Al-Hilli, Ziauddin Barani, Burhanuddin Ali, Sirhindi, al-Majlisi, Wali-Allah, and modern scholars like Sayyid Qutb, Hasan al-Bana, Iqbal, Maududi, Farahi, Nadvi, Shibli Nomani, Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Ibn Baaz, al-Qaradawi, Mian Tufail Mohammad, al-Khoe, Israr Ahmed, Majid Khadduri, Bassam Tibi, M.S Ramadan al-Buti, Ruhollah Khomeini, Sayyid Tantawy, Nasiruddin al-Albani, amongst many, many others.
and?
Can you stop the Taqiyya bull shit now?
And you blame the Sikhs for fighting back against a violently oppressive regime where they were made not just second class citizen, but lower forms of life, with barely any rights?
And you Blame the Muslims for fighting against the Violently oppressive regime of British invaders?
In more recent times, after their withdrawl from Singapore; British were so scared by the advancing Japanes that they created an artificial famine in Bengal in 1943 which killed more than 5-million as a conservative estimate.
And many more deaths.
Sultans are not like kings. They do not have dvine authority or connections, and they make mistakes?
Yeah Hindus and Sikh have killed eachother, it's not a complete lie, but it is [B]EXTREMELY[/B] dishonest, at some point outright lies, and generally right in line with the practice of Taqiyya.
^ I am being Dishonest about something that is not a complete lie?????
Pat Condell has gotten you so stirred up with the word Taqiyya it is just funny..
When ever a muslim commits a crime it is ALWAYS blamed on islam.
Muslim cab driver kills 2 girls. No lets not blame it on the man who is following tribal laws, but lets blame it on Islam.
Christian man kills his daughter for ect. reasons. That man must have been crazy I mean he is no good Christian.
Muslim women wears hijab = opressed.
Nun wears some kind of hijab = pious.
What?
When a Christian do it they blame it on the man.
You give us muslims followers to much credit, and that is just funny :).
Spew out more garbage so I can clean it up..
Lets just stop this bickring I mean we are not getting anywhere..
No you are not getting anywhere, you haven't refuted anything I've said, and in quite a bit of your last post you are just digging your hole deeper.
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23883359]No you are not getting anywhere, you haven't refuted anything I've said, and in quite a bit of your last post you are just digging your hole deeper.[/QUOTE]
Hah, see how arrogant you are. I just brought it out! Digging my hole deeper? To what? Honestly their is no point having this disc. I have already got some pms telling me why am I having this daft disc. with such a thick skinned person. Honestly you seem to like to copy and paste things you cannot comprehend. Yes I am digging my hole deeper only to find peace:)?
you haven't refuted anything I've said,
I have Debunked A lot of your "words."
and in quite a bit of your last post you are just digging your hole deeper.
So someone cant keep up :(. What a pity?
Gargatul0th, I take it you also believe that 9/11 was a result of Islam?
oh no sharia courts man the harpoons
(let's just omit the fact that they aren't legal courts but domestic dispute courts)
I might not be able to finish this argument because one of my good friends had just died because his bone marrow transplant failed so he died of cancer.... So peace guys!
[QUOTE=Afgman;23884078]I might not be able to finish this argument because one of my good friends had just died because his bone marrow transplant failed so he died of cancer.... So peace guys![/QUOTE]
Didn't pray hard enough?
[QUOTE=GodKing;23884214]Didn't pray hard enough?[/QUOTE]
wow that's a dick thing to say
speaking of dicks, fuck pat condell
[QUOTE=Afgman;23883418]Hah, see how arrogant you are. I just brought it out! Digging my hole deeper? To what? Honestly their is no point having this disc. I have already got some pms telling me why am I having this daft disc. with such a thick skinned person. Honestly you seem to like to copy and paste things you cannot comprehend. Yes I am digging my hole deeper only to find peace:)?
you haven't refuted anything I've said,
I have Debunked A lot of your "words."
and in quite a bit of your last post you are just digging your hole deeper.
So someone cant keep up :(. What a pity?[/QUOTE]
Yet you fail to post any of the things I ask, any of the places you refuted my "words".
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;23882510]good point, i just realized how dumb what i said was
(I probably should refrain from anymore religious discussion)[/QUOTE]
I see nothing wrong with calling Dawkins a militant atheist.
[editline]10:18PM[/editline]
He can be a real prick sometimes.
[QUOTE=creefer;23848785]This guy is really going down the shitter. He doesn't know the difference between different kinds of muslims, has had everything explained to him by several people, which he's apparently noticed, and he's still prancing about with the whole "I LOVE FREEDOM! FUCKING ALL MUSLIMS ARE SCUM BAN RELIGION! FREEDOM FREEDOM! REVOLUTION!" shit. Yeah, it's bad that religious institutions are trying to gain power over secular governments, but he's so damn thick that he still thinks that all religious people are like that.
Shame, too. His older videos were worth watching.[/QUOTE]
13 people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
[editline]06:20AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23888263]I see nothing wrong with calling Dawkins a [B]militant atheist.
[/B]
[editline]10:18PM[/editline]
He can be a real prick sometimes.[/QUOTE]
militant atheists are dangerous.
[editline]06:21AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23880050]Wow, the Sikhs killed during the partition were not killed by Hindus, they were killed by Muslims, as were many Hindus killed by Muslims. The dispute about the building in 2005 was with the Hindus, I said that, and the reason the college next door complains about them praying openly is because that is not allowed in Pakistan for non-Muslims. Many Muslims consider eachother infidels for differing views, only the Ahmadiyya are the ones not espousing violent Jihad, and now they are being killed, all of it is fueled by Muslim hate and religious violence. The reason you want me to go to Richard Dawkins is because he doesn't talk about your people, Pan Condell tells the truth about you, that's why you want to suppress him. Everything you've said is a joke, most of it is Taqiyya, you haven't touched on anything I've said, all you do is divert attention and lie. You are a disgusting human being. I can barely even call you that.[/QUOTE]
look at me, im Gargatul0th, im a raging islamaphobe
[editline]06:21AM[/editline]
moderate muslims? ALL TERRORISTS
[editline]06:28AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;23862095]Oh I'm sorry, apparently Jihad and "Islamic" Insurgencies don't exist. This is the type of PC mentioned in OP's video. 9/11 had political purpose [B]but to deny the involvement of religion is absurd[/B].
So the organization that carried out the attacks is not an Islamist group who calls for "global" Jihad? Yep, Religion not involved.[/QUOTE]
uhhh religion WASN'T involved
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[QUOTE=Gargatul0th;23886121]Yet you fail to post any of the things I ask, any of the places you refuted my "words".[/QUOTE]
you should like answer JDK's question
i love living in a world where people think politically correct amounts to any argument at all
Does no one think that a massive influx of people with social conservative views(Muslims in this case) into a society such as a democracy or republic, will lead to a more social conservative society?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23888922]Does no one think that a massive influx of people with social conservative views(Muslims in this case) into a society such as a democracy or republic, will lead to a more social conservative society?[/QUOTE]
nope
it'll lead to tension but that's about it
england is becoming less and less socially conservative, yet people insist it's becoming islamic
[QUOTE=thisispain;23889018]nope
it'll lead to tension but that's about it
england is becoming less and less socially conservative, yet people insist it's becoming islamic[/QUOTE]
Well then.
I think it's possible, but I don't hate muslims for it. I just dislike the idea of a religion having any sort of sway over people.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23889104]Well then.
I think it's possible, but I don't hate muslims for it. I just dislike the idea of a religion having any sort of sway over people.[/QUOTE]
religion is only a tool used to sway people
the thing about religion is that it's completely static, it doesn't change, but people take it and adapt it so it means something totally different
it's how one christian can say "I believe equality is something god would approve of" and another can say "god condemns those evil homosexuals".
this is the inherit problem with Pat Condell, he doesn't give a fuck, he just does this for attention because he's awful at being funny
all this talk about religious slavery and islamofascism doesn't solve any sort of problem, it only exists as a kneejerk reaction to a bunch of people who've always been there
some english people are delusional because they think the world will be a happy place as long as they can wish everyone away
Goddamnit thisispain stop stealing my thoughts
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23889503]Goddamnit thisispain stop stealing my thoughts[/QUOTE]
:c00lbert:
[QUOTE=thisispain;23889428]religion is only a tool used to sway people
the thing about religion is that it's completely static, it doesn't change, but people take it and adapt it so it means something totally different
it's how one christian can say "I believe equality is something god would approve of" and another can say "god condemns those evil homosexuals".
this is the inherit problem with Pat Condell, he doesn't give a fuck, he just does this for attention because he's awful at being funny
all this talk about religious slavery and islamofascism doesn't solve any sort of problem, it only exists as a kneejerk reaction to a bunch of people who've always been there
some english people are delusional because they think the world will be a happy place as long as they can wish everyone away[/QUOTE]
Those people will always exist(The ones that twist religion to their will), why give them one more tool to twist people with?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23889999]Those people will always exist(The ones that twist religion to their will), why give them one more tool to twist people with?[/QUOTE]
because it is not necessarily a destructive tool
i mean you could ban fertilizer because it's an ingredient for bomb making but how would you keep up our food production that way
and let me ask this, do you deny the rallying power Martin Luther King's church had for the civil rights movement?
[URL="http://www.facepunch.com/member.php?u=319454"]Gargatul0th[/URL] is an alt of CriticalThought (Who's an alt of Karsin)
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