[QUOTE=-nesto-;38003432]source?[/QUOTE]
I'll go on Politifact and get it. The page isn't loading for me atm.
so instead of answering the question they just go and prove that neither give a shit about working together by spending their last few minutes just to tear eachother apart.
Okay nevermind. I was wrong by a multiple of 3. It's 17 percent, but still. Having about 40 percent kept, 17 percent compromised, and 21 percent in the works is an amazing record.
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/[/url]
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slap another 9% in addition, that being, "Stalled"
Ryan's head looks like it's going to pop off his shoulders. He's rattled.
HONESTY IS WHAT I CAN BRING
EVEN THOUGH I CANT TELL THE TRUTH
Some of the promises on that list are kinda incorrectly placed. I'd say that DOMA is more stalled that it is broken.
Good debate, way better and alot more open then the stiff presidential debate.
You'd think you would want to go last for the closing statement because the last thing said will stick with you longer
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38003472]HONESTY IS WHAT I CAN BRING
EVEN THOUGH I CANT TELL THE TRUTH[/QUOTE]
The fuck are numbers?
Seriously though, even fox news was calling him out on it lol.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38003424]He said they looked for open minded judges as they are/should as they have the most power over laws[/QUOTE]
But they don't.
It's very obvious. Very very obvious. The 4/5 splits are a result of that fact. Republicans appoint judges with republican ideals. Democrats appoint judges with democratic ideals.
Meh, not too bad of a lie, really.
damn ryan is being slammed on the fact checking
like this one is extreme
[url]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/18/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-us-navy-smallest-1917-air-force-s/[/url]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;38003486]You'd think you would want to go last for the closing statement because the last thing said will stick with you longer[/QUOTE]
It's a coin toss, and Biden lost so he went first.
You can hear people chuckling at Ryans closing statements.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;38003501]It's a coin toss, and Biden lost so he went first.[/QUOTE]
Thought Biden won though.
Closing thoughts folks?
Mine are:
Biden for president.
Obviously want to see the fact checks, but Ryan seems to have been largely ravaged here.
I never noticed how big Ryan's ears were
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;38003501]It's a coin toss, and Biden lost so he went first.[/QUOTE]
Oh I thought he won
And it's over.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;38003486]You'd think you would want to go last for the closing statement because the last thing said will stick with you longer[/QUOTE]
You don't have a choice. The opening and closing statement is determined by a "coin toss"
[QUOTE=-nesto-;38003525]You don't have a choice. The opening and closing statement is determined by a "coin toss"[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know this. I thought Biden won the coin toss and was allowed to choose.
Ryan's closing statement was emotional and strong sounding, but he had way more fact infractions than Biden by a long, long shot
I wanna see how the facts add up. Going to be interesting to see.
I haven't watched the whole thing, how was the debate in general?
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