2012 Presidential Debate Thread - Obama/Biden vs. Romney/Ryan - October 3rd-22nd: Live 9 PM EST Toni - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Lazor;38003918]CBS snap poll: Biden won the debate, 50-31[/QUOTE] ABC seems to be declaring Biden the winner as well. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M[/media]

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[QUOTE=Morcam;38003941]Whoa wait what? They've flat-out said "Neither candidate won" They said that a few minutes ago.[/QUOTE] Not on TV they weren't.

Biden is a dumb gaffe machine they said Would be a disaster of a debate they said.

[QUOTE=Morcam;38003927]There were snap polls saying Obama won the last one. I'd agree with ABC on this one - neither actually won. Biden was just too much of an asshole for his dominance to be construed as a win.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;38003937]ABC seems to be declaring Biden the winner as well. [/QUOTE] ? I'd like to see for myself what they actually said rather than relying on facepunch's own interpretation on, "who won"

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Biden spoke for 41 minutes Ryan spoke for 40 minutes victory

[QUOTE=Morcam;38003957]I'm watching the youtube stream from ABC news, is it not the same?[/QUOTE] I have no idea. Not watching their stream. Now it's local news.

[QUOTE=Morcam;38003957]I'm watching the youtube stream from ABC news, is it not the same?[/QUOTE] no its a special studio for youtube and yahoo the two hosting it are usually standby anchors and are on at like 3am to 5am edt for the early early news

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The thing about second in commands is that they need to be able to be strong enough to tell the first in command to sit the fuck down and look at reality. Bidens capable of that.

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;38003959]Biden spoke for 41 minutes Ryan spoke for 40 minutes victory[/QUOTE] Especially when you look at the number of accurate statements they both said in that amount of time.

Did I just fucking just hear this correctly? Fox news implied that the moderator was bidens lover. EDIT: There is no fucking WAY I heard this correctly, but a couple of other people are saying they heard that too.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38003994]Did I just fucking just hear this correctly? Fox news implied that the moderator was bidens lover.[/QUOTE] To be completely fair and balanced (unlike Fox News amirite), the moderator did seem to be biased towards Biden during most of the debate, even if slightly.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38003994]Did I just fucking just hear this correctly? [b]Fox news[/b] implied that the moderator was bidens lover.[/QUOTE] Well there's your problem.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38003994]Did I just fucking just hear this correctly? Fox news implied that the moderator was bidens lover.[/QUOTE] to be honest, there was a clear sense of bias.

CNN Focus Group 32% Biden 32% Ryan 35% No winner

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;38003994]Did I just fucking just hear this correctly? Fox news implied that the moderator was bidens lover. EDIT: There is no fucking WAY I heard this correctly, but a couple of other people are saying they heard that too.[/QUOTE] Called it.

[QUOTE=Laferio;38004011]to be honest, there was a clear sense of bias.[/QUOTE] But not as much as they suggest, I think she was frustrated that he was not answering the questions she asked and kept trying to go on tangents.

Bias fine. Lover though? The fuck.

I don't think she was very biased at all. Until the last 10 minutes or so, she called them out on things and cut them off when they went over their allotted time.

Yeah, in the beginning I even thought she was being pretty hard on Biden. Later on, perhaps she was harder on Ryan, but I thought she was definitely balanced overall.

CNN flash poll- 48% Ryan, 44% Biden, +/- 5%. CNN declares a tie.

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;38004013]CNN Focus Group 32% Biden 32% Ryan 35% No winner[/QUOTE] CNN's Focus Group has always been a poor metric. CNN is also awful but i'd rather see their snap poll assuming they do one.

looks like it was accurate this time a tie

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;38004073]looks like it was accurate this time a tie[/QUOTE] uh, CNN's focus group had 3 options the poll had 2 options and the numbers are way different so uh

tie

[QUOTE=Lazor;38004101]uh, CNN's focus group had 3 options the poll had 2 options and the numbers are way different so uh[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] CNN Focus Group 32% Biden 32% Ryan 35% No winner[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] CNN flash poll- 48% Ryan, 44% Biden, +/- 5%. CNN declares a tie. [/QUOTE] ???

In my opinion Biden won, but I must admit I am biased.

[QUOTE=Morcam;38004119]???[/QUOTE] yes thank you for making it easier to see my point let's break this down: The CNN Focus Group had 3 options to choose from. Biden, Ryan, and Nobody. The Snap Poll had two. You can't make a meaningful statement of accuracy between the two.