Sadistic parenting story of the day: foster mother arrested for torturing and sodomizing her 10-year - Polidicks

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239606]anything less than a burial isn't justice I'm guessing you two wouldn't want to give the death sentence to hitler either right?[/QUOTE] No. But I don't see how that's relevant. Also, that is a faulty analogy. You argue "eye for an eye", therefore biblical retribution for Hitler would be to kill all Germans. Would you commit genocide against all Germans as "justice?"

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239606]anything less than a burial isn't justice I'm guessing you two wouldn't want to give the death sentence to hitler either right?[/QUOTE] And we hit Godwin on the second page, well done.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;32239625]And we hit Godwin on the second page, well done.[/QUOTE] this is like female hitler every bit as fucked up, just didn't have the means to be as productive as him

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239647]this is like female hitler every bit as fucked up, just didn't have the means to be as productive as him[/QUOTE] No it isnt. You need some goddamn perspective, you fucking maniac.

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239606]anything less than a burial isn't justice I'm guessing you two wouldn't want to give the death sentence to hitler either right? cause what if he was, like, totally seriously sorry about all that whole "let's wipe jews off the face of the planet" thing, he didn't really mean it[/QUOTE] You have to realize that not wanting the death penalty isn't the same as saying "they didn't mean it", as if to say that they only get the death penalty if they meant to commit the crime. And again I'll ask, how is killing this woman justice?

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239382]Yeah, you're even worse than death penalty advocates. [editline]11th September 2011[/editline] I get the impression you know very little about justice.[/QUOTE] yes lets just throw her in prison and waste money keeping a person thats completely fucked in the head alive that traumatized a child for life.

how is letting her live justice

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239660]You have to realize that not wanting the death penalty isn't the same as saying "they didn't mean it", as if to say that they only get the death penalty if they meant to commit the crime. And again I'll ask, how is killing this woman justice?[/QUOTE] That sort of "if you don't want her dead then you sympathize" false dichotomy is common among serial killers. [editline]11th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=cccritical;32239692]how is letting her live justice[/QUOTE] How is murder justice? Justice isn't about what makes you feel better, it's about solving a problem with minimal loss to any party. It means if you can send someone to prison for life or murder them, you send them to prison for life. Justice is not about jumping the goddamn gun and doing the worst thing you can possibly do just because they pissed you off. This lady didn't do shit to you. The only person who has a right to be angry is that kid. You are just a fucking psychotic, bloodthirsty observer screaming for barbarism that hasn't been a part of Justice for centuries.

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32239689]yes lets just throw her in prison and waste money keeping a person thats completely fucked in the head alive that traumatized a child for life.[/QUOTE] Yes, we should, but you completely mischaracterize it.

The death penalty doesn't work. Why? It's the easy way out. They should rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives, thinking about what they did constantly, unable to forget, tortured mentally. Killing them just relives them from said mental torture.

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239692]how is letting her live justice[/QUOTE] Because killing her makes us no better than she is.

killing her wouldn't be justice, not by a long shot, but it's much closer to it than letting her live

[QUOTE=Lankist;32239620]No. But I don't see how that's relevant. Also, that is a faulty analogy. You argue "eye for an eye", therefore biblical retribution for Hitler would be to kill all Germans. Would you commit genocide against all Germans as "justice?"[/QUOTE] Horrible analogy, not all Germans were following Hitler. The people who oversaw the death camps and internment camps along with hitler deserve death, that would be considered justice

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239728]Because killing her makes us no better than she is.[/QUOTE] um no killing her makes us better than her we'd put someone that's actually guilty of something out of their misery quickly we're not taking an innocent person and forcing them to suffer something worse than death slowly for no reason at all stop with this "all human life is valuable" horseshit

I hope she gets a fair trial.

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;32239723]The death penalty doesn't work. Why? It's the easy way out. They should rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives, thinking about what they did constantly, unable to forget, tortured mentally. Killing them just relives them from said mental torture.[/QUOTE] Oh stop, right this instant. The reason the death penalty doesn't work isn't because it's "the easy way out". The reason it doesn't work is because it's a shitty deterrent, costs an insane amount of money to get going, and may very well end up killing an innocent person.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239037]This is going to solve nothing and cost even more money than keeping her in prison, you realize that right? If you take away your desire for retribution for a minute, you'll realize that.[/QUOTE] Aww, but I like retribution... [QUOTE=Lankist;32239620]No. But I don't see how that's relevant. Also, that is a faulty analogy. You argue "eye for an eye", therefore biblical retribution for Hitler would be to kill all Germans. Would you commit genocide against all Germans as "justice?"[/QUOTE] He didn't say 'biblical retribution' though. He didn't argue for killing all Germans. He argued for a death sentence for Hitler. Nice strawman dude.

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239730]killing her wouldn't be justice, not by a long shot, but it's much closer to it than letting her live[/QUOTE] "Letting her live?" As though its your goddamn decision? Like you have that kind of goddamn authority? Who the fuck gave you the power to "let people live?"

[QUOTE=Lankist;32239620]No. But I don't see how that's relevant. Also, that is a faulty analogy. You argue "eye for an eye", therefore biblical retribution for Hitler would be to kill all Germans. Would you commit genocide against all Germans as "justice?"[/QUOTE] Your post makes no sense, first of all, not all germans were nazis, and we aren't talking about goddamn hitler, we are talking about a sick, demented creature that burnt a childs genital, forced him to eat shit, and violate him in some of the worst ways imaginable.

[QUOTE=Last or First;32239761]Aww, but I like retribution... He didn't say 'biblical retribution' though. He didn't argue for killing all Germans. He argued for a death sentence for Hitler. Nice strawman dude.[/QUOTE] Yes I'm the one using a straw man. Not the dude who implied I am a Nazi sympathizer, oh no.

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239750]um no killing her makes us better than her we'd put someone that's actually guilty of something out of their misery quickly we're not taking an innocent person and forcing them to suffer something worse than death slowly for no reason at all stop with this "all human life is valuable" horseshit[/QUOTE] um no killing her doesn't make us better than her Human life is not valuable? You're shit.

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32239777]Your post makes no sense, first of all, not all germans were nazis, and we aren't talking about goddamn hitler, we are talking about a sick, demented creature that burnt a childs genital, forced him to eat shit, and violate him in some of the worst ways imaginable.[/QUOTE] As someone who has been through that, I think you need to quit acting like you know jack shit about it. You don't know fuck all. You're a sadist.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239759]it's a shitty deterrent[/QUOTE] fuck deterring people, if you ever get it in your head that this is something you could do then you're already a lost cause [QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239759]costs an insane amount of money to get going[/QUOTE] bullets [QUOTE=Megafanx13;32239759]and may very well end up killing an innocent person.[/QUOTE] oh I forgot she's innocent right nevermind just forget everything I said

[QUOTE=Last or First;32239761]Aww, but I like retribution...[/QUOTE] It doesn't work.

No need for name-calling, folks... we're exchanging opinions, that's all.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32239769]"Letting her live?" As though its your goddamn decision? Like you have that kind of goddamn authority? Who the fuck gave you the power to "let people live?"[/QUOTE] what does my authority over her punishment have to do with this you're not even arguing about the justice of it anymore, you're going after me

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;32239812]No need for name-calling, folks... we're exchanging opinions, that's all.[/QUOTE] I'm going to call bloodthirsty maniacs bloodthirsty maniacs. Deal with it.

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239807]fuck deterring people, if you ever get it in your head that this is something you could do then you're already a lost cause[/quote] I'm not saying that it should be, you're not going to deter people from crime by making prison more brutal. [QUOTE=cccritical;32239807]bullets[/quote] Completely without ethics. [QUOTE=cccritical;32239807]oh I forgot she's innocent right nevermind just forget everything I said[/QUOTE] I'm speaking about the death penalty in general, you tool.

[QUOTE=Lankist;32239783]Yes I'm the one using a straw man. Not the dude who implied I am a Nazi sympathizer, oh no.[/QUOTE] how did I imply you're a nazi sympathizer please tell me where I said you agree with hitler's ideals

[QUOTE=cccritical;32239817]what does my authority over her punishment have to do with this you're not even arguing about the justice of it anymore, you're going after me[/QUOTE] Yes, I am. YOU are the one saying we need to murder another human being. I am going after YOU for saying that kind of bullshit, and acting as though death is any manner of justice.